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All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning. So I decided to use my Basso Loto. mThis waqs the new-old-stock Basso steel frame that had been sitting in a German bike shop window.
Presently I have Bontrager wheels and a Flite saddle on it.
As I took it out on the road, the first half of the ride was on streets (pretty busy). I was really surprised at just how quite that bike is. The Bontrager wheels are very quiet, but I had pumped up the tires all the way to prevent pinch flats which are on all of the other bikes. Hitting ruts ans road cracks was still very quiet and on smooth roiad the bike couldn't be heard by other bikes I might be approaching. The chain is waxed and the saddle pack is tightly attacked and padded enough that nothing inside rattling around can't be heard.
The tires are Vittoria Corsa's so they have very little rolling sound.
While the Aliverti steel bike is light at 21 lbs the Basso ius 24 1/4. I expect that slows you down on climbs but I've never noticece a bike under 25 lbs to be heavy.
I have to think about keeping carbon fiber bikes after today's experience.
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 20:09:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning.
It's not the carbon fiber that's causing your flat tire. You have the
wrong type of air in your tires:
"Why it's IMPORTANT to use the Correct Air in Your Tires (Summer &
Winter Air)!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t09qfrYwok> (9:01)
Speaking of tires and air, I never seem to have enough tire valve
caps.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu3gq3UWAWGsFUmw8>
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping. <https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
Such bargains tend to be scams, but I couldn't resist buying it
anyway. 100 tire valve caps arrived without incident a few days ago.
There is still a risk of having the plastic caps explode or catch
fire. As a test, I gave away about 40 caps at a radio club lunch
meeting. If there are no reports of explosions or fire, I'll try some
on my bicycles, hand trucks and vehicle.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 20:09:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning.
It's not the carbon fiber that's causing your flat tire. You have the
wrong type of air in your tires:
"Why it's IMPORTANT to use the Correct Air in Your Tires (Summer &
Winter Air)!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t09qfrYwok> (9:01)
Speaking of tires and air, I never seem to have enough tire valve
caps.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu3gq3UWAWGsFUmw8>
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping. <https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
Such bargains tend to be scams, but I couldn't resist buying it
anyway. 100 tire valve caps arrived without incident a few days ago.
There is still a risk of having the plastic caps explode or catch
fire. As a test, I gave away about 40 caps at a radio club lunch
meeting. If there are no reports of explosions or fire, I'll try some
on my bicycles, hand trucks and vehicle.
On 8/8/2025 7:29 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 20:09:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning.
It's not the carbon fiber that's causing your flat tire. You have the
wrong type of air in your tires:
"Why it's IMPORTANT to use the Correct Air in Your Tires (Summer &
Winter Air)!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t09qfrYwok> (9:01)
Speaking of tires and air, I never seem to have enough tire valve
caps.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu3gq3UWAWGsFUmw8>
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
Such bargains tend to be scams, but I couldn't resist buying it
anyway. 100 tire valve caps arrived without incident a few days ago.
There is still a risk of having the plastic caps explode or catch
fire. As a test, I gave away about 40 caps at a radio club lunch
meeting. If there are no reports of explosions or fire, I'll try some
on my bicycles, hand trucks and vehicle.
You can have a double handful of valve caps at any LBS, any
day, just for the asking.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/hardware.html:
"Valve caps, schrader or presta FREE just ask "
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/8/2025 7:29 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 20:09:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning.
It's not the carbon fiber that's causing your flat tire. You have the
wrong type of air in your tires:
"Why it's IMPORTANT to use the Correct Air in Your Tires (Summer &
Winter Air)!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t09qfrYwok> (9:01)
Speaking of tires and air, I never seem to have enough tire valve
caps.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu3gq3UWAWGsFUmw8>
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
Such bargains tend to be scams, but I couldn't resist buying it
anyway. 100 tire valve caps arrived without incident a few days ago.
There is still a risk of having the plastic caps explode or catch
fire. As a test, I gave away about 40 caps at a radio club lunch
meeting. If there are no reports of explosions or fire, I'll try some
on my bicycles, hand trucks and vehicle.
You can have a double handful of valve caps at any LBS, any
day, just for the asking.
https://www.yellowjersey.org/hardware.html:
"Valve caps, schrader or presta FREE just ask"
I have Lego derived ones on the MTB.
<https://brickcaps.com/>
Others bikes I have metal caps, if coloured so I can see them, ie not loose them in low light.
Cheers for the gravity train link <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKbRfEyd8O8>
Seem to be a few industrial trains/railroads that used gravity to move down hill, and some I believe used water to pull a less heavy carriages uphill.
The area around my folks place has lots of inclines from industrial
workings IrCOd assume around Frank would as well?
Roger Merriman
On 8/8/2025 3:09 PM, cyclintom wrote:
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning. So I decided to use my Basso Loto. mThis waqs the new-old-stock Basso steel frame that had been sitting in a German bike shop window.
Presently I have Bontrager wheels and a Flite saddle on it.
As I took it out on the road, the first half of the ride was on streets (pretty busy). I was really surprised at just how quite that bike is. The Bontrager wheels are very quiet, but I had pumped up the tires all the way to prevent pinch flats which are on all of the other bikes. Hitting ruts ans road cracks was still very quiet and on smooth roiad the bike couldn't be heard by other bikes I might be approaching. The chain is waxed and the saddle pack is tightly attacked and padded enough that nothing inside rattling around can't be heard.
The tires are Vittoria Corsa's so they have very little rolling sound.
While the Aliverti steel bike is light at 21 lbs the Basso ius 24 1/4. I expect that slows you down on climbs but I've never noticece a bike under 25 lbs to be heavy.
I have to think about keeping carbon fiber bikes after today's experience.
A kumbaya moment!On flat ground my average speed was perhaps even faster than normal since there is a little give in the framw like fatter tires. But the utter noiaelessness of the bike was striking.
I think we all agree that materials vary in many ways and
rider criteria vary even more. Celebrate diversity!
On 8/8/2025 7:29 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 20:09:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning.
It's not the carbon fiber that's causing your flat tire. You have the
wrong type of air in your tires:
"Why it's IMPORTANT to use the Correct Air in Your Tires (Summer &
Winter Air)!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t09qfrYwok> (9:01)
Speaking of tires and air, I never seem to have enough tire valve
caps.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu3gq3UWAWGsFUmw8>
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
Such bargains tend to be scams, but I couldn't resist buying it
anyway. 100 tire valve caps arrived without incident a few days ago.
There is still a risk of having the plastic caps explode or catch
fire. As a test, I gave away about 40 caps at a radio club lunch
meeting. If there are no reports of explosions or fire, I'll try some
on my bicycles, hand trucks and vehicle.
Hey! Something's wrong there.
I just weighed valve caps and 100 SV plastic caps are 35
grams. In a USPS nonmachinable first class envelope, that's
$1.27. The ebay ad says 'free UPS delivery' which is even
higher.
A zero-value 100-pack of caps (seller found them = no COGS)
can't even be delivered for 99 cents and some portion of
that 99 cents goes to ebay and either PayPal or a card carrier.
Makes no sense at all.
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping. <https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 20:11:03 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/8/2025 7:29 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 20:09:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning.
It's not the carbon fiber that's causing your flat tire. You have the
wrong type of air in your tires:
"Why it's IMPORTANT to use the Correct Air in Your Tires (Summer &
Winter Air)!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t09qfrYwok> (9:01)
Speaking of tires and air, I never seem to have enough tire valve
caps.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pu3gq3UWAWGsFUmw8>
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
Such bargains tend to be scams, but I couldn't resist buying it
anyway. 100 tire valve caps arrived without incident a few days ago.
There is still a risk of having the plastic caps explode or catch
fire. As a test, I gave away about 40 caps at a radio club lunch
meeting. If there are no reports of explosions or fire, I'll try some
on my bicycles, hand trucks and vehicle.
Hey! Something's wrong there.
I just weighed valve caps and 100 SV plastic caps are 35
grams. In a USPS nonmachinable first class envelope, that's
$1.27. The ebay ad says 'free UPS delivery' which is even
higher.
A zero-value 100-pack of caps (seller found them = no COGS)
can't even be delivered for 99 cents and some portion of
that 99 cents goes to ebay and either PayPal or a card carrier.
Makes no sense at all.
The shipping cost came out of the sellers pocket.
You might be entertained by what the seller normally sells on eBay: <https://www.ebay.com/str/wspartstrades>
The eBay page at:
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
shows "Shipping: Free UPS Ground".
I dug through my trash can and found the padded shipping envelope. The envelope says "USPS Ground Advantage" and "U.S. Postage Paid". There
was no documentation or shipping manifest included.
The total price I paid was $1.08, which included $0.09 for sales tax,
but nothing to pay for the shipping. I paid for it with Paypal.
Apparently, I was not charged for shipping.
The return address on the envelope said it came from "online seller".
The address is a large truck loading dock in Bell Gardens, CA, which
is probably a "drop and ship" fulfillment facility used by hundreds of companies.
Skimming other tire valve cap prices, 100 caps should have cost me
$5.00.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/386951753679>
My guess(tm) is that the seller was in a hurry to get rid of his stock
of tire valve caps. Perhaps he was switching to a different drop
shipper and didn't want to deal with low value small stuff.
I searched eBay for a similar deal for Presta valve caps. All I found
were high prices:
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/202749772294>
Thanks for the offer of free caps, but I think I'll continue to use
Presta to Schrader adapters like these: <https://www.ebay.com/itm/124319631507>
On 8/8/2025 5:29 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:Those are shrader valve caps as well which don't fit on presta valves. That is a "get these things out of my store" price.
<snip>
I decided to stock up. Searching eBay, I found 100 caps for the
amazingly low price of $0.99 including shipping. <https://www.ebay.com/itm/187380498853>
Dumb, since those are black.
Everyone knows that red caps make you go faster. They are more
expensive, but still not a lot, <https://www.ebay.com/itm/317050377664>.
The ones you bought are out of stock anyway. $0.99 with free shipping
that must have cost the seller close to $0.99.
Don't get the green ones since those require that you fill your tires
with nitrogen (free at Costco).
--
?If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.??Tin Foil Awards
All of the carbon fiber bikes had flats this morning. So I decided to use my Basso Loto. mThis waqs the new-old-stock Basso steel frame that had been sitting in a German bike shop window.I have two steel bikes and a bar steel frameset. I also have a Time frame which would take more than the rest of my life to brake. So I will put everything else up for sale on Ebay since Craigslist has sold ONE bike in 5 years. Obviously I nrrf s larger audience.
Presently I have Bontrager wheels and a Flite saddle on it.
As I took it out on the road, the first half of the ride was on streets (pretty busy). I was really surprised at just how quite that bike is. The Bontrager wheels are very quiet, but I had pumped up the tires all the way to prevent pinch flats which are on all of the other bikes. Hitting ruts ans road cracks was still very quiet and on smooth roiad the bike couldn't be heard by other bikes I might be approaching. The chain is waxed and the saddle pack is tightly attacked and padded enough that nothing inside rattling around can't be heard.
The tires are Vittoria Corsa's so they have very little rolling sound.
While the Aliverti steel bike is light at 21 lbs the Basso ius 24 1/4. I expect that slows you down on climbs but I've never noticece a bike under 25 lbs to be heavy.
I have to think about keeping carbon fiber bikes after today's experience.