• Texas invades my state

    From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 07:22:17 2025
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    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state
    to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for
    lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army
    Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at
    Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/
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  • From NoBody@NoBody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 07:40:14 2025
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    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state
    to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for
    lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army
    Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at
    Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's >intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to
    enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 11:22:26 2025
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    On 10/15/2025 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state
    to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for
    lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army
    Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at
    Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's
    intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to
    enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?

    How are you able to see his state better than he can?


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  • From the dog from that film you saw@dsb@REMOVETHISbtinternet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 17:20:38 2025
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    On 15/10/2025 16:22, moviePig wrote:
    On 10/15/2025 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state
    to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for
    lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army
    Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at
    Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's
    intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-
    illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to
    enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?

    How are you able to see his state better than he can?




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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 18:42:41 2025
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    On Oct 15, 2025 at 8:22:26 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2025 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state
    to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for
    lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army
    Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at
    Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's >>> intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.


    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to
    enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?

    How are you able to see his state better than he can?

    Well, I can see *my* state and city and the deployment of the national guard
    to put down our regular bi-monthly riots was both necessary and welcome
    because my governor and mayor refuse to enforce laws and allow criminals to
    run rampant.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 19:01:46 2025
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Oct 15, 2025 at 8:22:26 AM PDT, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>10/15/2025 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state >>>>to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for >>>>lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army >>>>Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at >>>>Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's >>>>intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to >>>enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?

    How are you able to see his state better than he can?

    Well, I can see *my* state and city and the deployment of the national guard >to put down our regular bi-monthly riots was both necessary and welcome >because my governor and mayor refuse to enforce laws and allow criminals to >run rampant.

    I'm sorry if Los Angeles is being subject to riots, but Chicago isn't,
    so I concede that you are leading in the race to the bottom.

    Ghod forbid we get discussion of what's going on in this thread.

    1) Crime is on a downward trend nationwide, from which Chicago benefits.
    The serious crime that remains is not from police failing to enforce the
    law. The governor is not in charge of local police. Chicago is being led
    by a cop's cop, even appointed by Mayor Brandon Johnson, who is policing regardless of idiotic rhetoric out of Johnson's mouth. He even assists
    ICE and federal authorities with crowd control in the case of protests
    that might overwhelm federal authorities.

    That's why Chicago patrol officers called in for crowd control are
    routinely tear gassed by ICE, which has been their common tactic,

    Curious that NoBody failed to note that.

    The problem with policing in Chicago with respect to the most serious
    crime is ineffectiveness of criminal investigations and the unacceptably
    low clearance rates. The prosecutor is filing charges when police
    present good evidence and there is a statute tha tdet is applicable to
    the nature of the crime and evidence obtained. SHe is simply no longer
    ignoring the criminal code.

    For the 2,321st time, military troops, unless they are M.P.s, are
    absolutely not police officers. They cannot patrol then make arrests if
    they witness crimes. They cannot investigate crimes. NoBody is well
    aware of this,

    2) moviePig's followup isn't directly related to anything I wrote.
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 16:08:39 2025
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    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 19:01:46 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Oct 15, 2025 at 8:22:26 AM PDT, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>10/15/2025 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state >>>>>to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for >>>>>lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army >>>>>Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at >>>>>Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's >>>>>intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to >>>>enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?

    How are you able to see his state better than he can?

    Well, I can see *my* state and city and the deployment of the national guard >>to put down our regular bi-monthly riots was both necessary and welcome >>because my governor and mayor refuse to enforce laws and allow criminals to >>run rampant.

    I'm sorry if Los Angeles is being subject to riots, but Chicago isn't,
    so I concede that you are leading in the race to the bottom.

    Ghod forbid we get discussion of what's going on in this thread.

    1) Crime is on a downward trend nationwide, from which Chicago benefits.
    The serious crime that remains is not from police failing to enforce the
    law. The governor is not in charge of local police. Chicago is being led
    by a cop's cop, even appointed by Mayor Brandon Johnson, who is policing >regardless of idiotic rhetoric out of Johnson's mouth. He even assists
    ICE and federal authorities with crowd control in the case of protests
    that might overwhelm federal authorities.

    Why would you tell such lies? Trump has told us that even Portland is
    burning to the ground. Poor Chicagoans are terrified to step out side
    their homes for fear of being shot.

    That's why Chicago patrol officers called in for crowd control are
    routinely tear gassed by ICE, which has been their common tactic,

    Curious that NoBody failed to note that.

    The problem with policing in Chicago with respect to the most serious
    crime is ineffectiveness of criminal investigations and the unacceptably
    low clearance rates. The prosecutor is filing charges when police
    present good evidence and there is a statute tha tdet is applicable to
    the nature of the crime and evidence obtained. SHe is simply no longer >ignoring the criminal code.

    For the 2,321st time, military troops, unless they are M.P.s, are
    absolutely not police officers. They cannot patrol then make arrests if
    they witness crimes. They cannot investigate crimes. NoBody is well
    aware of this,

    Our dear leader is either not aware of this or chooses to willfully
    ignore that.

    2) moviePig's followup isn't directly related to anything I wrote.
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 16:43:21 2025
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    On 10/15/2025 3:01 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Oct 15, 2025 at 8:22:26 AM PDT, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    10/15/2025 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state >>>>> to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for >>>>> lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army
    Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at
    Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's >>>>> intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to
    enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?

    How are you able to see his state better than he can?

    Well, I can see *my* state and city and the deployment of the national guard >> to put down our regular bi-monthly riots was both necessary and welcome
    because my governor and mayor refuse to enforce laws and allow criminals to >> run rampant.

    I'm sorry if Los Angeles is being subject to riots, but Chicago isn't,
    so I concede that you are leading in the race to the bottom.

    Ghod forbid we get discussion of what's going on in this thread.

    1) Crime is on a downward trend nationwide, from which Chicago benefits.
    The serious crime that remains is not from police failing to enforce the
    law. The governor is not in charge of local police. Chicago is being led
    by a cop's cop, even appointed by Mayor Brandon Johnson, who is policing regardless of idiotic rhetoric out of Johnson's mouth. He even assists
    ICE and federal authorities with crowd control in the case of protests
    that might overwhelm federal authorities.

    That's why Chicago patrol officers called in for crowd control are
    routinely tear gassed by ICE, which has been their common tactic,

    Curious that NoBody failed to note that.

    The problem with policing in Chicago with respect to the most serious
    crime is ineffectiveness of criminal investigations and the unacceptably
    low clearance rates. The prosecutor is filing charges when police
    present good evidence and there is a statute tha tdet is applicable to
    the nature of the crime and evidence obtained. SHe is simply no longer ignoring the criminal code.

    For the 2,321st time, military troops, unless they are M.P.s, are
    absolutely not police officers. They cannot patrol then make arrests if
    they witness crimes. They cannot investigate crimes. NoBody is well
    aware of this,

    2) moviePig's followup isn't directly related to anything I wrote.

    3) Adam's followup to my followup isn't directly related to anything.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 21:15:41 2025
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    On Oct 15, 2025 at 12:01:46 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    For the 2,321st time, military troops, unless they are M.P.s, are
    absolutely not police officers. They cannot patrol then make arrests if
    they witness crimes. They cannot investigate crimes.

    No, but they can form perimeters around federal facilities and federal law enforcement operations and enforce them so that the federal agents can do
    their jobs free from interference and attack, which they wouldn't have to do if, in the case of L.A. and Portland, the mayor and governor would do their jobs and enforce the law.

    In both L.A. and Portland, the governing authorities don't just refuse to
    allow the police to assist ICE in their efforts or protect them while they perform their perfectly legal and constitutional duties, they won't even come to the aid of local residents who are victims of a panoply crimes from the 'protesters' who have infested their neighborhoods. Everything from blasting acid metal and rap music at high volume all night, to the use of air horns and fireworks, to arson, to assault and battery on anyone the mob believes might
    be "on the other side". They recently tried to chain the doors shut on the Portland ICE building and set it on fire with people inside. That's attempted mass murder. The Portland police did nothing about it.

    Also in Portland, reminiscent of the CHAZ settlement in Seattle, the mob has even set up checkpoints in the neighborhood around the ICE facility and demand residents show their IDs under threat of violence and exclusion from their own homes because the mob is trying to weed out reporters and counterprotestors from the area.

    And the police do nothing about it. They tell any local resident who calls for help-- even ones reporting physical assaults and batteries-- that they're on their own because local police enforcing *any* laws in the area surrounding
    the ICE facility could be seen as assisting ICE and they've been forbidden
    from doing it.

    The only people they arrest are the conservatives and counterprotestors for being attacked. Two notable conservative YouTubers were violently set upon by the mob and suffered serious injuries, only to have the police arrest *them*, claiming their mere presence was tantamount to incitement.

    Under these circumstances, it is *absolutely* appropriate for the federal government to step in and put down the insurrection which is being allowed to happen with the full knowledge and tacit permission of the state and local governments.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 17:18:59 2025
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    On 2025-10-15 2:42 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 15, 2025 at 8:22:26 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2025 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:22:17 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    As you know by now, Texas national guard troops were sent to my state >>>> to, whatever, and their deployment was blocked by a federal judge for >>>> lack of a lawful reason to deploy. They've been sitting at an Army
    Reserve base southwest of Joliet, so they don't even get to eat at
    Chicago restaurants.

    The funny part of the story was a number of them failed Pete Hegeseth's >>>> intolerance for middle-age sprawl and were sent back to Texas.


    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/14/texas-national-guard-illinois-sent-home/

    How you feeling about your governor and mayor of Chicago refusing to
    enforce laws and allowing the criminals to run rampant?

    How are you able to see his state better than he can?

    Well, I can see *my* state and city and the deployment of the national guard to put down our regular bi-monthly riots was both necessary and welcome because my governor and mayor refuse to enforce laws and allow criminals to run rampant.


    Are the Guard still there or did they just stay a few weeks and then
    leave? I know the media was horrified by their presence but did things
    calm down noticeably? Are ICE agents able to do their work with minimum interference now?
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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 17:07:31 2025
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    On 10/15/25 2:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 15, 2025 at 12:01:46 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    For the 2,321st time, military troops, unless they are M.P.s, are
    absolutely not police officers. They cannot patrol then make arrests if
    they witness crimes. They cannot investigate crimes.

    No, but they can form perimeters around federal facilities and federal law enforcement operations and enforce them so that the federal agents can do their jobs free from interference and attack, which they wouldn't have to do if, in the case of L.A. and Portland, the mayor and governor would do their jobs and enforce the law.

    In both L.A. and Portland, the governing authorities don't just refuse to allow the police to assist ICE in their efforts or protect them while they perform their perfectly legal and constitutional duties, they won't even come to the aid of local residents who are victims of a panoply crimes from the 'protesters' who have infested their neighborhoods. Everything from blasting acid metal and rap music at high volume all night, to the use of air horns and
    fireworks, to arson, to assault and battery on anyone the mob believes might be "on the other side". They recently tried to chain the doors shut on the Portland ICE building and set it on fire with people inside. That's attempted mass murder. The Portland police did nothing about it.

    Also in Portland, reminiscent of the CHAZ settlement in Seattle, the mob has even set up checkpoints in the neighborhood around the ICE facility and demand
    residents show their IDs under threat of violence and exclusion from their own
    homes because the mob is trying to weed out reporters and counterprotestors from the area.

    And the police do nothing about it. They tell any local resident who calls for
    help-- even ones reporting physical assaults and batteries-- that they're on their own because local police enforcing *any* laws in the area surrounding the ICE facility could be seen as assisting ICE and they've been forbidden from doing it.

    The only people they arrest are the conservatives and counterprotestors for being attacked. Two notable conservative YouTubers were violently set upon by the mob and suffered serious injuries, only to have the police arrest *them*, claiming their mere presence was tantamount to incitement.

    Under these circumstances, it is *absolutely* appropriate for the federal government to step in and put down the insurrection which is being allowed to happen with the full knowledge and tacit permission of the state and local governments.

    This sure sounds like malice by the responsible state and local
    governments. Sure they can't be prosecuted for that? Systematically
    targeting political opponents for beatdowns by politically loyal mobsters doesn't sound like legitimate government to me.

    Can the immigration lobby be publicly criticized? The media says no,
    the subject is taboo.




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