• Hamas breaks cease fire

    From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Oct 14 22:18:19 2025
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    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Oct 14 19:43:20 2025
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    On 2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Robin Miller@robin.miller@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Tue Oct 14 22:38:02 2025
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    Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0



    Adam lies, as is usual when it comes to Israel-Palestine. The operative
    phase of the ceasefire deal, phase one, does not require Hamas to
    disarm. And it's obvious to everyone--including Adam--that someone has
    to exercise police authority in the destroyed land that is Gaza. And,
    right now, Hamas, as the governing authority, is the logical and only
    possible choice. As the linked article states:

    Powerful local families and armed gangs rCo including some anti-Hamas factions backed by Israel rCo stepped into the void. Many are accused of hijacking humanitarian aid and selling it for profit, contributing to GazarCOs starvation crisis.

    Nahed Sheheiber, head of GazarCOs private truckers union, said Hamas was acting against gangs that had terrorized people in areas controlled by Israel.

    rCLThose gangs looted aid and killed people under the protection of the (Israeli) occupation,rCY he told The Associated Press, saying they operated in so-called red zones where Israel had ordered people to evacuate. The Israeli military did not respond to a request for comment.

    Even Trump acknowledges the necessity of maintaining public order:

    Trump acknowledged that Hamas security officials had launched raids on rCLgangsrCY in Gaza, which he said he initially approved. He compared HamasrCOs policing to his own deployment of national guard troops to Washington as a measure designed to prevent crime.


    In fact, as is always the case, it is Israel that has violated the
    ceasefire by:

    (1) Murdering seven Palestine civilians whom Israel forces deemed to be
    "too close":

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-violates-ceasefire-terms-shelling-several-areas-gaza

    (2) allowing in only half of the agreed-upon number of trucks of aid:

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israel-says-it-will-allow-only-half-agreed-aid-because-hamas-has-not

    (3) refusing to open the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt:

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-slashes-aid-gaza-trump-says-threatens-violently-disarm-hamas


    --Robin
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  • From Robin Miller@robin.miller@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Tue Oct 14 22:40:37 2025
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    Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0


    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".


    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    --Robin
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 03:42:26 2025
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    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>>and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>>in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025 >>>https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 03:49:53 2025
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    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025 >>https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    Adam lies, as is usual when it comes to Israel-Palestine. The operative >phase of the ceasefire deal, phase one, does not require Hamas to
    disarm. And it's obvious to everyone--including Adam--that someone has
    to exercise police authority in the destroyed land that is Gaza. And,
    right now, Hamas, as the governing authority, is the logical and only >possible choice.

    A terrorist organization cannot police.

    I guess you missed my criticism of Trump and the Muslim world that
    failed to send in troops the moment Israel pulled back in order to
    prevent Hamas from grabbing any territory.

    . . .
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 00:19:59 2025
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    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>>>and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>>>in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025 >>>>https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 17:32:44 2025
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    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>>>> and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>>>> in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>> ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0


    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 05:16:31 2025
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    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Her attack isn't unjustified. . . .

    shawn, I'm not sharing my flame war with you. Get your own.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 07:04:02 2025
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    On Oct 14, 2025 at 9:32:44 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>>> ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0



    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    How could you ban religion without become some kind of Orwellian police
    state?


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  • From NoBody@NoBody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 07:36:25 2025
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    On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 22:40:37 -0400, Robin Miller
    <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>> and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>> in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0


    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".


    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    --Robin

    If they violate a cease fire why wouldn't he?
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  • From NoBody@NoBody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 07:37:39 2025
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    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 00:19:59 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>>>>and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>>>>in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>>ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025 >>>>>https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    I see. Hamas could kill indiscriminately but Israel must be
    "surgical" in retaliation as Hamas hides among the people.
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 04:30:42 2025
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    nanoflower@gmail.com wrote:

    It would be different if Israel was more surgical in their attacks against >Hamas, but that isn't their approach so many civilians end up dead in their >attacks



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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 10:45:00 2025
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    On 2025-10-14 10:40 p.m., Robin Miller wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>> and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>> in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-
    security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".


    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.


    Only the terrorists and their supporters. There are apparently some Palestinians who loathe Hamas - as well they should - and a few who are
    doing what they can to oppose Hamas. I would support Israel arming
    *them* to use against Hamas if there is some reasonable chance that the weapons wouldn't be used against Israel when Hamas is wiped out. (I'd
    let Israel make that determination.)
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 10:57:17 2025
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    On 2025-10-15 12:19 a.m., shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>>>> and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>>>> in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>> ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    Do you know that Israel communicates bombings to the targets ahead of
    time via phone and leaflets and has been doing so for years? I've never
    heard of anyone else ever doing that in the history of warfare.

    The ratio of civilians to fighters being killed is roughly 1:1 as far as
    can be determined by Western analysts. In other words, for each fighter killed, only 1 civilian is killed. That is, by far, the least
    "collateral damage" in any war that has been studied.

    If Hamas had even a scrap of honour, they wouldn't be using their own
    people as human shields, they'd come out and fight the IDF instead of
    hiding behind their women, children and old people. But they don't even
    WANT to spare their fellow Gazans; if they did, they'd let them hide in
    the tunnels. But the tunnels are reserved for Hamas.

    Hamas WANTS their own people to die, the more the better, because every civilian who dies can be used to evoke Western sympathy. That sympathy
    in turn can be mobilized to get them goodies like recognition of their
    wannabe country. And, of course, it gets turned into justifications of
    yet more anti-Semitism.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 11:09:27 2025
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    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull >>>>>> back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, >>>>>> Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some
    authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the
    fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-
    security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious zealots
    are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 11:15:30 2025
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    On 10/15/2025 7:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 00:19:59 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>>>>> and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>>>>> in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>>> ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    I see. Hamas could kill indiscriminately but Israel must be
    "surgical" in retaliation as Hamas hides among the people.

    Exactly, except for the part about allowing Hamas to kill indiscriminately.


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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 10:33:52 2025
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    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, >>>>>>> Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some
    authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-
    security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God". :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they claim
    to have "found God".)

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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 18:25:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/2025 5:33 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to
    pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, >>>>>>>> the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to >>>>>>>> occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>>> fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza- >>>>>>>> security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your
    anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God".-a :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they claim
    to have "found God".)

    From your lips to God's... well, to *somebody's* ear.


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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 17:29:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/25 12:04 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 14, 2025 at 9:32:44 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0



    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    How could you ban religion without become some kind of Orwellian police state?

    In jest, I suggest that the Khmer Rouge did that, also Albania and
    the Soviet Union. But there was religion in spite of the laws,
    and if there was no religion why would there be a need to ban it?

    And there is some dissembling about Orwell by Progressives who
    say "Orwellianism" is some sort of rarified development when if
    you read Orwell he's talking about the common criminals elevated
    to the highest of society, who worship lying, corruption, fronting,
    caprice, monopolism, etc, the very things people hate about
    tyrannical states.

    So the Soviet Union, Albania, Khmer Rouge, and The Chinese
    Communist Party were Orwellian and the program to exterminate
    opposition is never liberal, matter what the corporate
    "liberals" say.













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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 20:47:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2025-10-15 5:33 p.m., Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to
    pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, >>>>>>>> the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to >>>>>>>> occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>>> fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza- >>>>>>>> security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your
    anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God".-a :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they claim
    to have "found God".)


    Unfortunately, significant numbers of people at least claim to find god
    in the slammer and some of those claims appear to be genuine. I seem to
    recall that Malcolm X was a relatively minor criminal who found Allah in
    jail. I'm sure there are other examples.

    Of course people can find religion in many places. I once worked with a
    guy from Alberta. He wasn't very interested in religion as a kid but
    when he took a biology course at university and learned about living
    beings and how complex and intricate they were, he decided that this
    couldn't happen by chance and had to be the working of some kind of God.
    At that point, he got much more interested in his parents' religion of
    Islam (they were from Egypt). When I worked with him, he was praying 5
    times a day, right in the office three of us shared. On one occasion, we
    all went out to lunch and we rode in his car. He played some kind of
    recording - CD or cassette - in a foreign language which I think was an
    imam reading the Koran.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 17:47:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/14/25 9:19 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, >>>>> and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority >>>>> in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>> ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    Adam, BTR, and Rhino *will* say that Israel is always good,
    and the very circumstance of Israel attacking someone is
    *proof* that 'the bitch got what she deserved'.

    Ask them, for a laugh, what they say would be acceptable public
    criticism against Israel.





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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 00:49:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Oct 15, 2025 at 3:25:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2025 5:33 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to >>>>>>>>> pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, >>>>>>>>> the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to >>>>>>>>> occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>>>> fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza- >>>>>>>>> security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your >>>>>> anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay >>>>> with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God".-a :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they claim
    to have "found God".)

    From your lips to God's... well, to *somebody's* ear.

    You're actually endorsing the idea of government suppression of religion?


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 00:50:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Oct 15, 2025 at 5:47:17 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/14/25 9:19 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>>> ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    Adam, BTR, and Rhino *will* say that Israel is always good,
    and the very circumstance of Israel attacking someone is
    *proof* that 'the bitch got what she deserved'.

    Where have I ever said such a thing or implied that's what I would say if asked?


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 21:00:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2025-10-15 8:47 p.m., Pluted Pup wrote:
    On 10/14/25 9:19 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull >>>>>> back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, >>>>>> Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some
    authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the
    fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-
    security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    Adam, BTR, and Rhino *will* say that Israel is always good,
    and the very circumstance of Israel attacking someone is
    *proof* that 'the bitch got what she deserved'.

    Ask them, for a laugh, what they say would be acceptable public
    criticism against Israel.


    Speaking strictly for myself, I have no problem with people criticizing
    Israel if the criticisms are based on fact. But people who insist Israel
    is committing genocide when it is not, or accuse it of making no efforts
    to avoid killing civilians are not making fact-based criticisms.

    The war would not have happened at all if Hamas and its allies hadn't
    attacked Israel on Oct 7 2023. The war could have ended at any time
    since then if Hamas had wanted to end the fighting but they wanted the
    maximum number of casualties so that they could claim to be victims of
    the mean Israelis. The Palestinian civilians could have found shelter in
    the tunnels if Hamas had let them down there. The
    pro-Palestinian/pro-Hamas protesters have supposedly been protesting the
    war but now that peace is at hand - *if* all goes well - they haven't
    let up on the protests at all. They are still demanding that the
    Intifada be globalized.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 22:53:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/2025 8:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 15, 2025 at 3:25:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2025 5:33 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to >>>>>>>>>> pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, >>>>>>>>>> the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to >>>>>>>>>> occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>>>>> fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza- >>>>>>>>>> security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your >>>>>>> anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay >>>>>> with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God".-a :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they claim >>> to have "found God".)

    From your lips to God's... well, to *somebody's* ear.

    You're actually endorsing the idea of government suppression of religion?

    Am I? Maybe I should've mentioned that banning religion is a great way
    to make zealots. Oh, wait...

    (What I "endorsed" is not automatically turning alleged Damascus moments
    into get-out-of-jail-free cards.)


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 23:03:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/2025 8:47 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 5:33 p.m., Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to >>>>>>>>> pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you
    know, the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send
    troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>>>> fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza- >>>>>>>>> security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, >>>>>>>> I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your >>>>>> anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God".-a :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they
    claim to have "found God".)


    Unfortunately, significant numbers of people at least claim to find god
    in the slammer and some of those claims appear to be genuine. I seem to recall that Malcolm X was a relatively minor criminal who found Allah in jail. I'm sure there are other examples.

    Of course people can find religion in many places. I once worked with a
    guy from Alberta. He wasn't very interested in religion as a kid but
    when he took a biology course at university and learned about living
    beings and how complex and intricate they were, he decided that this couldn't happen by chance and had to be the working of some kind of God.
    At that point, he got much more interested in his parents' religion of
    Islam (they were from Egypt). When I worked with him, he was praying 5
    times a day, right in the office three of us shared. On one occasion, we
    all went out to lunch and we rode in his car. He played some kind of recording - CD or cassette - in a foreign language which I think was an
    imam reading the Koran.

    Speaking as an atheist, I see the issue to be not whether the offender
    has had a "religious experience" (which could be anything from ptomaine
    to a sleepover with seraphim), but rather what assurances we can take of
    that mysterious experience's lasting transformative power.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 23:07:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/2025 9:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 8:47 p.m., Pluted Pup wrote:
    On 10/14/25 9:19 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull >>>>>>> back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, >>>>>>> Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some
    authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>> fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-
    security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your
    anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    Adam, BTR, and Rhino *will* say that Israel is always good,
    and the very circumstance of Israel attacking someone is
    *proof* that 'the bitch got what she deserved'.

    Ask them, for a laugh, what they say would be acceptable public
    criticism against Israel.


    Speaking strictly for myself, I have no problem with people criticizing Israel if the criticisms are based on fact. But people who insist Israel
    is committing genocide when it is not, or accuse it of making no efforts
    to avoid killing civilians are not making fact-based criticisms.

    The war would not have happened at all if Hamas and its allies hadn't attacked Israel on Oct 7 2023. The war could have ended at any time
    since then if Hamas had wanted to end the fighting but they wanted the maximum number of casualties so that they could claim to be victims of
    the mean Israelis. The Palestinian civilians could have found shelter in
    the tunnels if Hamas had let them down there. The pro-Palestinian/pro-
    Hamas protesters have supposedly been protesting the war but now that
    peace is at hand - *if* all goes well - they haven't let up on the
    protests at all. They are still demanding that the Intifada be globalized.

    This seems to be a reification of "The Devil Made Me Do It"...


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  • From BTR1701@no_email@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 03:24:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 10/15/2025 8:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 15, 2025 at 3:25:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 10/15/2025 5:33 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to >>>>>>>>>>> pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, >>>>>>>>>>> the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to >>>>>>>>>>> occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>>>>>> fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza- >>>>>>>>>>> security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your >>>>>>>> anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>>>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>>>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay >>>>>>> with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God".a :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they claim >>>> to have "found God".)

    From your lips to God's... well, to *somebody's* ear.

    You're actually endorsing the idea of government suppression of religion?

    Am I? Maybe I should've mentioned that banning religion is a great way
    to make zealots. Oh, wait...

    (What I "endorsed" is not automatically turning alleged Damascus moments into get-out-of-jail-free cards.)

    He also said people can be jailed until they lose god. To which you
    responded with your hopes that such sentiment reaches the ears of someone
    who can implement it.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 18:51:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/25 12:04 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 14, 2025 at 9:32:44 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, >>>>>>> Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza. >>>>>>>
    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some
    authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0


    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    How could you ban religion without become some kind of Orwellian police state?

    The same way anything else illegal is already policed. For a start you
    close down all churches (demolish them, sell the land to developers,
    etc.). Things like weird sects, criminal gangs, are already shutdown
    (to some degree) when they cause problems - religious zealots are no
    different to those.

    Obviously, like everything else that's illegal, there will still be
    some morons who think they can do whatever they want anyway. Those
    people would be prosecuted when caught.

    Even if it was simply banned in public places (including not taught in
    public schools, etc.), so "believers" could only congreagte in small
    groups within their own homes, it would be a massive improvement.



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  • From BTR1701@no_email@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 06:41:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 10/15/25 12:04 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 14, 2025 at 9:32:44 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back
    behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, >>>>>>>> Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza. >>>>>>>>
    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0



    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>>>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    How could you ban religion without becoming some kind of Orwellian police
    state?

    The same way anything else illegal is already policed. For a start you
    close down all churches (demolish them, sell the land to developers,
    etc.). Things like weird sects, criminal gangs, are already shutdown
    (to some degree) when they cause problems - religious zealots are no different to those.

    Obviously, like everything else that's illegal, there will still be
    some morons who think they can do whatever they want anyway. Those
    people would be prosecuted when caught.

    Even if it was simply banned in public places (including not taught in public schools, etc.), so "believers" could only congreagte in small
    groups within their own homes, it would be a massive improvement.

    You've just described an Orwellian police state.
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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 00:08:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/25 10:51 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 10/15/25 12:04 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 14, 2025 at 9:32:44 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>>>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious
    zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide.

    How could you ban religion without become some kind of Orwellian police
    state?

    The same way anything else illegal is already policed. For a start you close down all churches (demolish them, sell the land to developers, etc.). Things like weird sects, criminal gangs, are already shutdown (to some degree) when they cause problems - religious zealots are no different to those.

    Obviously, like everything else that's illegal, there will still be some morons who think they can do whatever they want anyway. Those people would be prosecuted when caught.

    Even if it was simply banned in public places (including not taught in public schools, etc.), so "believers" could only congreagte in small groups within their own homes, it would be a massive improvement.

    Much more of atheist propaganda from the USSR should be
    translated into English, to help educate us on what
    religion and atheism is like in practice.

    Why a priest forced a collective farm worker to steal
    a comb of lime honey from the farm to "pay for the
    wedding" and got sent to the corrective labour camp of the
    White Sea Canal, and while the humanistic atheist Gulag Chief
    Matvei Berman commiserated with him he couldn't ameliorate his
    sentence, after all it was his own fault for listening to
    a priest!

    That's an atheist pearl of wisdom from Gorky's book on the
    White Sea Canal convict labour, but there must be lots of
    stuff from the League Of The Militant Godless, etc., that should
    be translated and republished, it seems a waste to create new
    atheist arguments when so many of the old arguments haven't
    been sufficiently aired.






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  • From NoBody@NoBody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 07:29:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 11:15:30 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/15/2025 7:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 00:19:59 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile >>>>>>> ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more
    surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach
    so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    I see. Hamas could kill indiscriminately but Israel must be
    "surgical" in retaliation as Hamas hides among the people.

    Exactly, except for the part about allowing Hamas to kill indiscriminately.


    Up until now the Hamas supporters have advocated exactly that.
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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 12:58:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/15/2025 11:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 10/15/2025 8:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 15, 2025 at 3:25:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
    On 10/15/2025 5:33 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 15:09:27 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 10/15/2025 12:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-15 04:19:59 +0000, shawn said:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to >>>>>>>>>>>> pull back behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, >>>>>>>>>>>> the Arabs, Turks, and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to >>>>>>>>>>>> occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some >>>>>>>>>>>> authority in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the >>>>>>>>>>>> fragile ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza- >>>>>>>>>>>> security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be
    okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your >>>>>>>>> anger
    on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>>>>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>>>>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay >>>>>>>> with that.

    There is never going to be "peace" there until all the religious >>>>>>> zealots are gotten rid of and all religions are banned worldwide. >>>>>>
    Except that banning is a great way to make zealots.

    But they can then be jailed ... until they "lose God".-a :-)
    (Unlike today, where criminal scum are let out early becuase they claim >>>>> to have "found God".)

    From your lips to God's... well, to *somebody's* ear.

    You're actually endorsing the idea of government suppression of religion? >>
    Am I? Maybe I should've mentioned that banning religion is a great way
    to make zealots. Oh, wait...

    (What I "endorsed" is not automatically turning alleged Damascus moments
    into get-out-of-jail-free cards.)

    He also said people can be jailed until they lose god. To which you
    responded with your hopes that such sentiment reaches the ears of someone
    who can implement it.

    He said it with a joke-emoji. I didn't take it seriously. Sorry you did.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 13:01:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 10/16/2025 7:29 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 11:15:30 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 10/15/2025 7:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 00:19:59 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 03:42:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Robin Miller <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Rhino wrote:
    2025-10-14 6:18 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Trump announced premature peace deal. He got the Israelis to pull back >>>>>>>> behind an arbitrary cease fire line because, you know, the Arabs, Turks,
    and Pakistanis were going to send troops in to occupy Gaza.

    No troops from Muslim countries, so Hamas has re-asserted some authority
    in some territory to control "crime".

    Hamas reasserts control in a chaotic Gaza, posing a risk to the fragile
    ceasefire
    By SAMY MAGDY and JOSEPH KRAUSS
    AP
    Updated 3:21 PM CDT, October 14, 2025
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-security-gangs-looting-cde890ac57a098911ab7327bc98f07f0

    With the living hostages returned and the ceasefire violated, I'd be >>>>>>> okay with Bibi doing the "FO" part of "FAFO".

    Because Rhino approves of the mass murder of Palestinians.

    Good grief.

    Robin, I'm the Jew. You can continue to make me the target of your anger >>>>> on this issue. It's unnecessary to attack anybody else.

    Her attack isn't unjustified. It would be different if Israel was more >>>> surgical in their attacks against Hamas, but that isn't their approach >>>> so many civilians end up dead in their attacks and Rhino seems okay
    with that.

    I see. Hamas could kill indiscriminately but Israel must be
    "surgical" in retaliation as Hamas hides among the people.

    Exactly, except for the part about allowing Hamas to kill indiscriminately. >>

    Up until now the Hamas supporters have advocated exactly that.

    I see. But what has *Robin* advocated?


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