• [OT] Why technology is going to end mass immigration

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Oct 13 14:18:41 2025
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    Leo Kearse's latest video explores why technology is going to end mass immigration even if the politicians drag their heels:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QHqrAwSyQ [17 minutes]

    The economic arguments are interesting but he fails to look just a
    little farther into the future: what will we all do with ourselves once
    robots and AI have made us all unemployable? Or rather, what will our
    elites do with us when nearly all of us have become "useless eaters"?
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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Oct 13 13:38:46 2025
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    On 10/13/25 11:18 AM, Rhino wrote:
    Leo Kearse's latest video explores why technology is going to end mass immigration even if the politicians drag their heels:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QHqrAwSyQ [17 minutes]

    The economic arguments are interesting but he fails to look just a little farther into the future: what will we all do with ourselves once robots and AI have made us all unemployable? Or rather, what will our elites do with us when nearly all of us have become "useless eaters"?


    Without bothering to look at the video the proposal
    sounds like he is suggesting poverty as the solution
    to stopping mass immigration.

    But mass immigration is a state policy, backed by society,
    not something that "just happens", like trade.




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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon Oct 13 17:49:55 2025
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    On 2025-10-13 4:38 p.m., Pluted Pup wrote:
    On 10/13/25 11:18 AM, Rhino wrote:
    Leo Kearse's latest video explores why technology is going to end mass
    immigration even if the politicians drag their heels:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QHqrAwSyQ [17 minutes]

    The economic arguments are interesting but he fails to look just a
    little farther into the future: what will we all do with ourselves
    once robots and AI have made us all unemployable? Or rather, what will
    our elites do with us when nearly all of us have become "useless eaters"?


    Without bothering to look at the video the proposal
    sounds like he is suggesting poverty as the solution
    to stopping mass immigration.

    But mass immigration is a state policy, backed by society,
    not something that "just happens", like trade.


    Kearse does not WANT poverty. He predicts that robots and AI will make
    the need for cheap workers non-existent so the desire of employers to
    import foreigners will end. (Of course, he's probably being
    over-optimistic about when the robots and AI will be reliable enough and
    cheap enough to displace cheap foreign labour. Or not.)

    It's *me* that's concerned that robots and AI may mean none of us (or at
    least very few) will be needed in our economy. What happens at that
    point is not yet clear. Maybe we all live a life of leisure, with
    robots and AI taking care of the drudgery. Or maybe we humans prove to
    be "surplus to requirements"....

    Don't you feel silly for commenting on a video that you couldn't be
    bothered watching? If not, you should.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Tue Oct 14 13:46:27 2025
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    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:18:41 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Leo Kearse's latest video explores why technology is going to end mass >immigration even if the politicians drag their heels:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QHqrAwSyQ [17 minutes]

    The economic arguments are interesting but he fails to look just a
    little farther into the future: what will we all do with ourselves once >robots and AI have made us all unemployable? Or rather, what will our
    elites do with us when nearly all of us have become "useless eaters"?

    Bottom line is that cultural survival is at least as important in the
    long run.

    "The West" is all about our vision of freedom and justice. The Muslim
    world cares about a world empire aka "The Caliphate" - and I note that
    despite "The Muslim World" being 60 or so countries most of the
    immigration is not from one Muslim nation to another but rather to the
    West. In other words to add to Muslim majority states worldwide.

    In case you haven't guessed, I've read nearly all of Douglas Murray's
    books (and agree with him on most of his key points) and videos - and
    he's right to be a big supporter of Israel for they truly are "the
    canary in the coal mine" and that as Israel goes so goes the West.

    I don't see too much change in my time but I don't want my
    granddaughter (now 3) to have to adopt Sharia and all the baggage that
    goes with it. Churchill was right when he said that

    "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this
    world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or
    all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from
    time to time.a"

    (in other words he stole the line from someone but never said who"

    There are all sorts of Western politicians I loathe (including in the
    US, Canada and Britain) but no one has said Trump, Starmer or Carney
    are out to replace our system and all three know they won't be here
    forever.
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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 15 23:27:36 2025
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    On 10/13/25 2:49 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2025-10-13 4:38 p.m., Pluted Pup wrote:
    On 10/13/25 11:18 AM, Rhino wrote:
    Leo Kearse's latest video explores why technology is going to end mass immigration even if the politicians drag their heels:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QHqrAwSyQ [17 minutes]

    The economic arguments are interesting but he fails to look just a little farther into the future: what will we all do with ourselves once robots and AI have made us all unemployable? Or rather, what will our elites do with us when nearly all of us have become "useless eaters"?


    Without bothering to look at the video the proposal
    sounds like he is suggesting poverty as the solution
    to stopping mass immigration.

    But mass immigration is a state policy, backed by society,
    not something that "just happens", like trade.


    Kearse does not WANT poverty. He predicts that robots and AI will make the need for cheap workers non-existent so the desire of employers to import foreigners will end.

    That's what I surmised, make the West so poor that "immigrants will be discouraged".
    But that's absurd, forced immigration is a political problem, not, like the leftists
    say, "economics."

    When a MS-13 group gang rapes a boy, leftists and libertarians
    will screech that it happens because of "economics" and not some
    thing more sinister than that, like malice and the sadistic hatred
    of the weak and defenseless.


    (Of course, he's probably being over-optimistic about when the robots and AI will be reliable enough and cheap enough to displace cheap foreign labour. Or not.)

    It's *me* that's concerned that robots and AI may mean none of us (or at least very few) will be needed in our economy. What happens at that point is not yet clear. Maybe we all live a life of leisure, with robots and AI taking care of the drudgery. Or maybe we humans prove to be "surplus to requirements"....

    That's a happy thought, a universal leisure society! But aren't the
    extremely powerful AI companies like Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft the
    enemy of the West? It is these companies that *demand* mass immigration
    to the West, not for economic reasons but for political reasons, and
    they rain death threats against their opponents; didn't they do that
    to Ireland where Amazon, Facebook and Google demanded law changes to
    increase immigration into Ireland and demanded the prosecution of its
    critics? These "AI" companies promptly raised the crime rate in
    Ireland, making Ireland weaker and more compliant to foreign rule.

    Now I've a hopeful thought, the larger and more monopolistic these
    highly political corporations become the less resistance to expropriating
    them without compensation will be, as they act more like a government
    than private enterprise and can be voted out of power, in a sense.
    Really, the "ideal" of a world being run by a handful of lawless
    transnational corporations is criminal, but professed by the Left,
    calling rule by transnational monopolies "pre-socialism" and the Free
    Trade organizations who say that the only thing wrong with corporations
    is that there are too many of them and must be sharply reduced and centralized.




    Don't you feel silly for commenting on a video that you couldn't be bothered watching? If not, you should.


    No, I'd feel silly watching 17 minutes of dissembling when
    I already guessed the contents. I say if a speech is good
    enough to speak then it's good enough to type out. I'm
    a sworn advocate of reading and writing, and in my humble
    opinion video is overrated for conveying ideas.










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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu Oct 16 09:38:49 2025
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    On 2025-10-14 4:46 p.m., The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:18:41 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Leo Kearse's latest video explores why technology is going to end mass
    immigration even if the politicians drag their heels:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QHqrAwSyQ [17 minutes]

    The economic arguments are interesting but he fails to look just a
    little farther into the future: what will we all do with ourselves once
    robots and AI have made us all unemployable? Or rather, what will our
    elites do with us when nearly all of us have become "useless eaters"?

    Bottom line is that cultural survival is at least as important in the
    long run.

    "The West" is all about our vision of freedom and justice. The Muslim
    world cares about a world empire aka "The Caliphate" - and I note that despite "The Muslim World" being 60 or so countries most of the
    immigration is not from one Muslim nation to another but rather to the
    West. In other words to add to Muslim majority states worldwide.

    In case you haven't guessed, I've read nearly all of Douglas Murray's
    books (and agree with him on most of his key points) and videos - and
    he's right to be a big supporter of Israel for they truly are "the
    canary in the coal mine" and that as Israel goes so goes the West.

    Murray is absolutely right. I keep seeing comments that HE should be the
    Prime Minister of the UK instead of the people that actually lead the
    British parties.

    I don't see too much change in my time but I don't want my
    granddaughter (now 3) to have to adopt Sharia and all the baggage that
    goes with it. Churchill was right when he said that

    "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this
    world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or
    all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from
    time to time.rCa"

    (in other words he stole the line from someone but never said who"

    There are all sorts of Western politicians I loathe (including in the
    US, Canada and Britain) but no one has said Trump, Starmer or Carney
    are out to replace our system and all three know they won't be here
    forever.

    I was with you until this last paragraph but now I don't know what
    you're saying. I think the federal Liberal Party, the Democrats, and
    BOTH major parties in the UK have damaged their respective countries
    greatly with massive immigration. It's hard to characterize what they've
    done as anything BUT an attempt to replace our system when they let in
    every Tom, Dick, and Achmed with little or no vetting, tolerate sharia
    courts and female genital mutilation, allow polygamy (by not reacting to
    it), create legislation to punish "Islamaphobia" and entertain the idea
    of blasphemy laws. Yet all of that has been implemented in part in the
    UK, US, or here in Canada.
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    Rhino
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