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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in almost >every Western country except the U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in almost every Western country except the U.S.
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in almost
every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
On Oct 12, 2025 at 9:30:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones >>>> may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in almost
every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
Your whole "speech shouldn't be protected if the speaker's intent doesn't rest
with with the angels" schema.
On 10/12/2025 12:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 9:30:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending >>>>> people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones >>>>> may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in >>>> almost
every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
Your whole "speech shouldn't be protected if the speaker's intent doesn't >> rest
with with the angels" schema.
Never said that or anything like it. Never even said "speech shouldn't
be protected (period)" ...like the law does for certain speech.
On Oct 12, 2025 at 12:34:41 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 9:30:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending >>>>>> people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in >>>>> almost
every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
Your whole "speech shouldn't be protected if the speaker's intent doesn't >>> rest
with with the angels" schema.
Never said that or anything like it. Never even said "speech shouldn't
be protected (period)" ...like the law does for certain speech.
Sure you have. You've repeatedly said you'd be in favor of allowing punishment
for speech that's intended to harass or insult.
On 10/12/2025 3:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 12:34:41 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 10/12/2025 12:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 9:30:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending >>>>>>> people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones >>>>>>> may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in >>>>>> almost every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
Your whole "speech shouldn't be protected if the speaker's intent doesn't >>>> rest with with the angels" schema.
Never said that or anything like it. Never even said "speech shouldn't >>> be protected (period)" ...like the law does for certain speech.
Sure you have. You've repeatedly said you'd be in favor of allowing
punishment
for speech that's intended to harass or insult.
In other words, speech that's not so much "speech" as it is, e.g., a
stink bomb.
Yes, I quite disapprove (anyway) of actions masquerading as
"free speech", not least because they dilute protections of the latter.
Btw, since I suspect I'm alone here in having read what the priest
actually wrote, I'll offer my judgment that his words were indeed
entirely proper. I don't even get why one article called them "heated".
On Oct 12, 2025 at 1:40:06 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 3:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 12:34:41 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 9:30:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending >>>>>>>> people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in >>>>>>> almost every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
Your whole "speech shouldn't be protected if the speaker's intent doesn't
rest with with the angels" schema.
Never said that or anything like it. Never even said "speech shouldn't >>>> be protected (period)" ...like the law does for certain speech.
Sure you have. You've repeatedly said you'd be in favor of allowing
punishment
for speech that's intended to harass or insult.
In other words, speech that's not so much "speech" as it is, e.g., a
stink bomb.
It *is* speech, your pejorative and subjective characterization of it notwithstanding, and it's certainly not a determination I want the government making when deciding whether I can be imprisoned for saying something they don't like.
On 10/12/2025 4:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 1:40:06 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 10/12/2025 3:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 12:34:41 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 9:30:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes]
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in
almost every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
Your whole "speech shouldn't be protected if the speaker's intent doesn't
rest with with the angels" schema.
Never said that or anything like it. Never even said "speech shouldn't
be protected (period)" ...like the law does for certain speech.
Sure you have. You've repeatedly said you'd be in favor of allowing >>>> punishment
for speech that's intended to harass or insult.
In other words, speech that's not so much "speech" as it is, e.g., a
stink bomb.
It *is* speech, your pejorative and subjective characterization of it
notwithstanding, and it's certainly not a determination I want the
government
making when deciding whether I can be imprisoned for saying something they >> don't like.
It's 'speech' only as a judicial misnomer. E.g., a daily highway march crippling a city's economy is outright blackmail, regardless of the
slogans on marchers' t-shirts. Yet, for reasons I can only guess at,
courts have allowed such tactics as "speech". It's nonsense.
On Oct 12, 2025 at 2:30:20 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 4:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 1:40:06 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 10/12/2025 3:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 12, 2025 at 12:34:41 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2025 12:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Sure you have. You've repeatedly said you'd be in favor of allowing >>>>> punishment
On Oct 12, 2025 at 9:30:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 10/12/2025 1:33 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 11, 2025 at 8:16:34 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iySemLhP_I [5 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>
Free speech seems to be dying all over the West. Somehow, offending
people has been criminalized. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones
may break my bones but words can never hurt me"?
Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in
almost every Western country except the U.S.
And which "views" would those be, in your "view"?
Your whole "speech shouldn't be protected if the speaker's intent doesn't
rest with with the angels" schema.
Never said that or anything like it. Never even said "speech shouldn't
be protected (period)" ...like the law does for certain speech. >>>>>
for speech that's intended to harass or insult.
In other words, speech that's not so much "speech" as it is, e.g., a >>>> stink bomb.
It *is* speech, your pejorative and subjective characterization of it
notwithstanding, and it's certainly not a determination I want the
government
making when deciding whether I can be imprisoned for saying something they
don't like.
It's 'speech' only as a judicial misnomer. E.g., a daily highway march
crippling a city's economy is outright blackmail, regardless of the
slogans on marchers' t-shirts. Yet, for reasons I can only guess at,
courts have allowed such tactics as "speech". It's nonsense.
Which brings us right back up to the top of the thread: Somehow moviePig has managed to implement his views on free speech in almost every Western country except the U.S.