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If I could coax our young people - and let's face it, it's mostly high school and college age people that have this proclivity to parrot the pro-Hamas side - to do exactly what she did - do their own research,
hearing all sides, and form their OWN opinions - that's exactly what I'd want. Some people might conceivably get through that process without
leaving the Left but I think the vast majority would adopt views very similar to his woman. And that would be a HUGE step toward bridging the immense divide between Leftists in their fantasy world and the sane part
of the world.
In article <10cck9s$dqgv$3@dont-email.me>, no_offline_contact@example.com says...
If I could coax our young people - and let's face it, it's mostly high
school and college age people that have this proclivity to parrot the
pro-Hamas side - to do exactly what she did - do their own research,
hearing all sides, and form their OWN opinions - that's exactly what I'd
want. Some people might conceivably get through that process without
leaving the Left but I think the vast majority would adopt views very
similar to his woman. And that would be a HUGE step toward bridging the
immense divide between Leftists in their fantasy world and the sane part
of the world.
One problem with this is that "do research" is rapidly coming to mean
"ask an AI." They're trained on human conversation, and they've picked
up the biases of common culture.
In article <10cck9s$dqgv$3@dont-email.me>, no_offline_contact@example.com says...
If I could coax our young people - and let's face it, it's mostly highOne problem with this is that "do research" is rapidly coming to mean
school and college age people that have this proclivity to parrot the
pro-Hamas side - to do exactly what she did - do their own research,
hearing all sides, and form their OWN opinions - that's exactly what I'd >> want. Some people might conceivably get through that process without
leaving the Left but I think the vast majority would adopt views very
similar to his woman. And that would be a HUGE step toward bridging the
immense divide between Leftists in their fantasy world and the sane part >> of the world.
"ask an AI." They're trained on human conversation, and they've picked
up the biases of common culture.
On 2025-10-11 4:43 p.m., The True Melissa wrote:
In article <10cck9s$dqgv$3@dont-email.me>, no_offline_contact@example.com says...
If I could coax our young people - and let's face it, it's mostly high
school and college age people that have this proclivity to parrot the
pro-Hamas side - to do exactly what she did - do their own research,
hearing all sides, and form their OWN opinions - that's exactly what I'd >> want. Some people might conceivably get through that process without
leaving the Left but I think the vast majority would adopt views very
similar to his woman. And that would be a HUGE step toward bridging the
immense divide between Leftists in their fantasy world and the sane part >> of the world.
One problem with this is that "do research" is rapidly coming to mean
"ask an AI." They're trained on human conversation, and they've picked
up the biases of common culture.
Excellent point. Given the demonstrated biases of AI towards wokeism,
that would not tend to do much to move people from the left.
Case in point, I asked ChatGPT to draw a picture of typical British
people 1000 years ago, fully expecting to see all or mostly black people since that's what others have seen. But in my case it failed to draw any picture at all, despite repeated coaxings, always claiming that it was
very busy or that it couldn't understand the delay. I assume that it is aware of the negative reception its pictures of blacks in the UK from a thousand years ago and so it refuses to draw the picture at all but
makes up some BS about being overly busy or mysterious difficulties. (I
even tried a second series of coaxings a day or two later but got the
same results.)
On Oct 11, 2025 at 1:43:49 PM PDT, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <10cck9s$dqgv$3@dont-email.me>, no_offline_contact@example.com says...
If I could coax our young people - and let's face it, it's mostly high >> school and college age people that have this proclivity to parrot theOne problem with this is that "do research" is rapidly coming to mean
pro-Hamas side - to do exactly what she did - do their own research,
hearing all sides, and form their OWN opinions - that's exactly what I'd >> want. Some people might conceivably get through that process without
leaving the Left but I think the vast majority would adopt views very
similar to his woman. And that would be a HUGE step toward bridging the >> immense divide between Leftists in their fantasy world and the sane part >> of the world.
"ask an AI." They're trained on human conversation, and they've picked
up the biases of common culture.
Remember how all the major AI platforms depicted the Founding Fathers as black
men when asked to produce a picture of them?
Or when asked to produce a picture of typical Americans, there was not one white person in the bunch.
The AI was taught to do that by some DEI-obsessed programmer. Garbage in, garbage out.
In article <10cehsc$12eh7$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com says...
On Oct 11, 2025 at 1:43:49 PM PDT, "The True Melissa"
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <10cck9s$dqgv$3@dont-email.me>, no_offline_contact@example.com >> > says...
If I could coax our young people - and let's face it, it's mostly high >> >> school and college age people that have this proclivity to parrot the >> >> pro-Hamas side - to do exactly what she did - do their own research, >> >> hearing all sides, and form their OWN opinions - that's exactly what I'dOne problem with this is that "do research" is rapidly coming to mean
want. Some people might conceivably get through that process without >> >> leaving the Left but I think the vast majority would adopt views very >> >> similar to his woman. And that would be a HUGE step toward bridging the
immense divide between Leftists in their fantasy world and the sane part
of the world.
"ask an AI." They're trained on human conversation, and they've picked
up the biases of common culture.
Remember how all the major AI platforms depicted the Founding Fathers as
black
men when asked to produce a picture of them?
No, I don't. Do you have a link?
I have a side gig testing AIs, BTW, so I'd like to see that for several reasons. This might be a serious underlying problem or a result of the popularity of Hamilton.
Or when asked to produce a picture of typical Americans, there was not one >> white person in the bunch.
That one I believe easily, as a training problem. Most current pictures
of Americans are doing that, and so it learns wrong.
The AI was taught to do that by some DEI-obsessed programmer. Garbage in, >> garbage out.
Maybe, but it could easily be about biased training data or a guardrail utility.
Melissa
In article <10ceg7s$vanl$2@dont-email.me>, no_offline_contact@example.com says...
On 2025-10-11 4:43 p.m., The True Melissa wrote:
In article <10cck9s$dqgv$3@dont-email.me>, no_offline_contact@example.com says...Excellent point. Given the demonstrated biases of AI towards wokeism,
If I could coax our young people - and let's face it, it's mostly high >>>> school and college age people that have this proclivity to parrot the
pro-Hamas side - to do exactly what she did - do their own research,
hearing all sides, and form their OWN opinions - that's exactly what I'd >>>> want. Some people might conceivably get through that process without
leaving the Left but I think the vast majority would adopt views very
similar to his woman. And that would be a HUGE step toward bridging the >>>> immense divide between Leftists in their fantasy world and the sane part >>>> of the world.
One problem with this is that "do research" is rapidly coming to mean
"ask an AI." They're trained on human conversation, and they've picked
up the biases of common culture.
that would not tend to do much to move people from the left.
Case in point, I asked ChatGPT to draw a picture of typical British
people 1000 years ago, fully expecting to see all or mostly black people
since that's what others have seen. But in my case it failed to draw any
picture at all, despite repeated coaxings, always claiming that it was
very busy or that it couldn't understand the delay. I assume that it is
aware of the negative reception its pictures of blacks in the UK from a
thousand years ago and so it refuses to draw the picture at all but
makes up some BS about being overly busy or mysterious difficulties. (I
even tried a second series of coaxings a day or two later but got the
same results.)
It's strange that it drew nothing. You were using DALLE, right? I
ask because the chatbot thinks it can create images, but it actually
can't. It's amazing how often it hallucinates about its own abilities;
I guess it's trained on data about what "AIs" can do and assumes
it can.