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You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a >little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out >of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the >amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how one- >dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in places, >or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor despite this >being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is treated with >disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking about his >obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She mocks him, takes >her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed to be the main >character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
In article <10c0mji$cefj$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a >> little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out >> of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the
amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how one-
dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in places, >> or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor despite this >> being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is treated with
disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking about his
obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She mocks him, takes
her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed to be the main
character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there
is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's parents, and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and could easily set him straight on their message.
On 10/6/2025 8:32 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <10c0mji$cefj$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have
been a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give
it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I
think about the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that
movie, or how one-dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful >>> the CGI was in places, or how serious moments were undercut by cheap
Marvel type humor despite this being a DC movie, even right at the very >>> end, Superman is treated with disrespect. Basically walked on like a
doormat. I'm talking about his obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara
Zorel, aka Supergirl. She mocks him, takes her dog, and swears before
leaving. And this is supposed to be the main character of an upcoming
Supergirl movie in the same DC universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there
is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's parents, >> and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and could easily >> set him straight on their message.
The problem I had with Gunn's Superman movie is he made another Marvel
movie using DC characters.
On 10/6/2025 8:32 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <10c0mji$cefj$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a
little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out
of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the >>> amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how one- >>> dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in places,
or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor despite this
being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is treated with
disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking about his
obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She mocks him, >>> takes
her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed to be the main >>> character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC universe. Can't >>> wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there
is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's parents, >> and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and could easily >> set him straight on their message.
The problem I had with Gunn's Superman movie is he made another Marvel
movie using DC characters.
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a >>little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out >>of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the >>amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how one- >>dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in >>places, or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor >>despite this being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is >>treated with disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking >>about his obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She >>mocks him, takes her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed >>to be the main character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC >>universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl
was the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is,
if there is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew
Superman's parents, and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she
was a teen and could easily set him straight on their message.
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in places, or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor despite this being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is treated with disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking about his obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel,
her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed to be the main character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
In article <10c0mji$cefj$2@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a >> little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out >> of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the >> amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how one-
dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in places,
or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor despite this
being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is treated with
disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking about his
obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She mocks him, takes
her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed to be the main
character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there
is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's parents, and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and could easily set him straight on their message.
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <10c0mji$cefj$2@dont-email.me>,him, takes
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a
little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out
of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the >>> amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how one- >>> dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in places,
or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor despite this
being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is treated with
disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking about his
obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She mocks
Can't wait.her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed to be the main >>> character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC universe.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there
is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's parents, >> and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and could easily >> set him straight on their message.
Wait a minute. DidnrCOt Luther tell one of his hench people that the >recovered back half of the message was genuine?
Gunn has said in interviews that the message is real and herCOs not going to >retcon it.
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have
been a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give
it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I
think about the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that
movie, or how one-dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful >>> the CGI was in places, or how serious moments were undercut by cheap
Marvel type humor despite this being a DC movie, even right at the very >>> end, Superman is treated with disrespect. Basically walked on like a
doormat. I'm talking about his obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, >>> aka Supergirl. She mocks him, takes her dog, and swears before leaving. >>> And this is supposed to be the main character of an upcoming Supergirl
movie in the same DC universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there
is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's
parents, and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and
could easily set him straight on their message.
Wait a minute. DidnrCOt Luther tell one of his hench people that the >recovered back half of the message was genuine?
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been >>> a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 >>> out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about >>> the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how >>> one-dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in >>> places, or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor >>> despite this being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is
treated with disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking >>> about his obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She
mocks him, takes her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed >>> to be the main character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC
universe. Can't wait.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there
is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's
parents, and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and
could easily set him straight on their message.
Wait a minute. Didn't Luther tell one of his hench people that the
recovered back half of the message was genuine?
Gunn has said in interviews that the message is real and he's not
going to retcon it.
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there >>> is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's parents, >>> and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and could easily >>> set him straight on their message.
Wait a minute. Didn't Luther tell one of his hench people that the >>recovered back half of the message was genuine?
Gunn has said in interviews that the message is real and he's not going to >>retcon it.
I thought there was a throwaway headline on the video release
suggesting that maybe the message had been tampered with years ago..
on Krypton, not by Lex?
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been >> a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 >> out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about >> the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's
the mightiest Meta human of them all.
Also, I'd like to know who the previous Meta humans were going back >centuries. This also undercuts Superman's value.
And are they counting people who just have advanced tools as being Meta >humans because they shouldn't. There's nothing Meta about Guy Gardner. Or >Hawkgirl. I don't know how Mr. Terrific's powers work.
In article <1455924261.781550259.610621.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <10c0mji$cefj$2@dont-email.me>,him, takes
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been a
little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 out
of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about the >>>> amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, or how one- >>>> dimensional most of the characters were, or how awful the CGI was in places,
or how serious moments were undercut by cheap Marvel type humor despite this
being a DC movie, even right at the very end, Superman is treated with >>>> disrespect. Basically walked on like a doormat. I'm talking about his >>>> obnoxious and drunken cousin, Cara Zorel, aka Supergirl. She mocks
Can't wait.her dog, and swears before leaving. And this is supposed to be the main >>>> character of an upcoming Supergirl movie in the same DC universe.
https://youtu.be/Z5j_ad0_hiQ?si=zzKePzrm5lhUU3lf
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl was
the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is, if there >>> is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew Superman's parents, >>> and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she was a teen and could easily >>> set him straight on their message.
Wait a minute. Didn|o-C-Ot Luther tell one of his hench people that the
recovered back half of the message was genuine?
Gunn has said in interviews that the message is real and he|o-C-Os not going to
retcon it.
I thought there was a throwaway headline on the video release
suggesting that maybe the message had been tampered with years ago..
on Krypton, not by Lex?
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been >>> a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 >>> out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about >>> the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's
the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time
he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Also, I'd like to know who the previous Meta humans were going back
centuries. This also undercuts Superman's value.
Yeah, I didn't like that line either.
And are they counting people who just have advanced tools as being Meta
humans because they shouldn't. There's nothing Meta about Guy Gardner. Or
Hawkgirl. I don't know how Mr. Terrific's powers work.
I think the term "metahuman" has shifted from being DC's version of "mutant" to "superhero".
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
It's not clear to me why Gunn thought Tom King's take on Supergirl
was the one he wanted to use in the DCU, but the bigger problem is,
if there is any adherance to standard continuity, Supergirl knew
Superman's parents, and for that matter, lived on Krypton until she
was a teen and could easily set him straight on their message.
Wait a minute. Didn't Luther tell one of his hench people that the
recovered back half of the message was genuine?
Gunn has said in interviews that the message is real and he's not going >>> to retcon it.
I thought there was a throwaway headline on the video release
suggesting that maybe the message had been tampered with years ago..
on Krypton, not by Lex?
I don't recall that, but the first I heard of it was with Gunn said it's
real and he wasn't backing down on it
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been >>>> a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 >>>> out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about >>>> the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's >>> the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time
he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Also, I'd like to know who the previous Meta humans were going back
centuries. This also undercuts Superman's value.
Yeah, I didn't like that line either.
And are they counting people who just have advanced tools as being Meta
humans because they shouldn't. There's nothing Meta about Guy Gardner. Or >>> Hawkgirl. I don't know how Mr. Terrific's powers work.
I think the term "metahuman" has shifted from being DC's version of "mutant"
to "superhero".
Well, that would be incredibly stupid about six different ways.
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been >>>> a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 >>>> out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about >>>> the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's
the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time
he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Also, I'd like to know who the previous Meta humans were going back
centuries. This also undercuts Superman's value.
Yeah, I didn't like that line either.
And are they counting people who just have advanced tools as being Meta
humans because they shouldn't. There's nothing Meta about Guy Gardner. Or >>> Hawkgirl. I don't know how Mr. Terrific's powers work.
I think the term "metahuman" has shifted from being DC's version of "mutant" >> to "superhero".
Well, that would be incredibly stupid about six different ways.
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been >>> a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 >>> out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about >>> the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's
the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time
he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been
a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5
out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about
the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's >>> the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time
he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate with each of them >inflicting equal damage on the other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so >easily beat Superman.
In article <10c6c57$1q485$5@dont-email.me>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:30:49 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been
a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5
out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about
the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's >>>> the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time >>> he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone >>> of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate with each of them
inflicting equal damage on the other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so
easily beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would be trying to *stop*
Ultra Man while Ultra Man would be trying to *kill* him.
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been
a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5
out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about
the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's >>>> the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time >>> he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone >>> of Superman.
Also, I'd like to know who the previous Meta humans were going back
centuries. This also undercuts Superman's value.
Yeah, I didn't like that line either.
And are they counting people who just have advanced tools as being Meta >>>> humans because they shouldn't. There's nothing Meta about Guy Gardner. Or >>>> Hawkgirl. I don't know how Mr. Terrific's powers work.
I think the term "metahuman" has shifted from being DC's version of "mutant"
to "superhero".
Well, that would be incredibly stupid about six different ways.
Yeah, I think someone thought the term "superhero" was silly and childish
and wanted something more sophiticated-sounding.
On 10/8/25 07:20, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been >>>>> a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5 >>>>> out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about >>>>> the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's >>>> the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time >>> he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone >>> of Superman.
Also, I'd like to know who the previous Meta humans were going back
centuries. This also undercuts Superman's value.
Yeah, I didn't like that line either.
And are they counting people who just have advanced tools as being Meta >>>> humans because they shouldn't. There's nothing Meta about Guy Gardner. Or >>>> Hawkgirl. I don't know how Mr. Terrific's powers work.
I think the term "metahuman" has shifted from being DC's version of "mutant"
to "superhero".
Well, that would be incredibly stupid about six different ways.
Since some metahumans are villains.
--
Not a joke! Don't jump!
Personally I think that Batman is a metahuman. He was not
at the start but his stressful life of battling crime has unlocked the metahuman abilities stored in his epigentic material. These
include rapid injury recovery and abnormal bone strength, very
fast reflexes and superior mentation. If not by those stresses
then the visit to the Lazarus Pit would account for the extraordinaty
long career of this costumed crime fighter. And don't forget the
strange ability to breath in space.
bliss
On Oct 8, 2025 at 12:06:05 PM PDT, "Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan <tednolan>> wrote:
In article <10c6c57$1q485$5@dont-email.me>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:30:49 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>>
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been
a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5
out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about
the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's >>>>> the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time >>>> he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone >>>> of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate with each of them
inflicting equal damage on the other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so >>> easily beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would be trying to *stop*
Ultra Man while Ultra Man would be trying to *kill* him.
Well, if you let yourself get beaten, you're not stopping anyone, so as a strategy, that's not very smart.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 12:06:05 PM PDT, "Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan
<tednolan>> wrote:
In article <10c6c57$1q485$5@dont-email.me>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:30:49 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have beenAnd yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's
a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5
out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about
the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie, >>>>>>
the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time
he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate with each of them >>>> inflicting equal damage on the other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so >>>> easily beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would be trying to *stop*
Ultra Man while Ultra Man would be trying to *kill* him.
Well, if you let yourself get beaten, you're not stopping anyone, so as a >> strategy, that's not very smart.
To quote my BFF, did you ever see Superman do anything that he couldnrCOt have done more easily some other way?
In article <10c6c57$1q485$5@dont-email.me>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:30:49 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have been
a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give it a 6.5
out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When I think about
the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's >>>> the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first time >>> he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone >>> of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate with each of them
inflicting equal damage on the other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so
easily beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would be trying to *stop*
Ultra Man while Ultra Man would be trying to *kill* him.
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:35:23 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan <tednolan>> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have >>>>>>>> been a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give >>>>>>>> it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When >>>>>>>> I think about the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that
movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's
the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first >>>>>> time he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually >>>>>> a clone of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate with each of them >>>>> inflicting equal damage on the other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman >>>>> so easily beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would be trying to *stop* >>>> Ultra Man while Ultra Man would be trying to *kill* him.
Well, if you let yourself get beaten, you're not stopping anyone, so as a >>> strategy, that's not very smart.
To quote my BFF, did you ever see Superman do anything that he couldn't
have done more easily some other way?
Well, there is the fact that Superman is a dick to contend with.
In article <10c6i4o$1q485$12@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:35:23 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan <tednolan>> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about it, I think I may have
been a little bit too kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give
it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one point too high. When
I think about the amount of times Superman needed to be rescued in that
movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes a point of saying he's
the mightiest Meta human of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits, that was the first >>>>>>> time he lost a fight, which makes sense because Ultra Man was actually
a clone of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate with each of them >>>>>> inflicting equal damage on the other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman >>>>>> so easily beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman had more trouble >>>>> with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would be trying to *stop* >>>>> Ultra Man while Ultra Man would be trying to *kill* him.
Well, if you let yourself get beaten, you're not stopping anyone, so as a >>>> strategy, that's not very smart.
To quote my BFF, did you ever see Superman do anything that he couldn't >>> have done more easily some other way?
Well, there is the fact that Superman is a dick to contend with.
Only to Jimmy Olsen.
On Oct 9, 2025 at 4:33:14 PM PDT, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10c6i4o$1q485$12@dont-email.me>,
atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:35:23 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
<anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan <tednolan>> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about
it, I think I may have been a little bit too
kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give
it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one
point too high. When I think about the amount of
times Superman needed to be rescued in that
movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes
a point of saying he's the mightiest Meta human
of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits,
that was the first time he lost a fight, which
makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate
with each of them inflicting equal damage on the
other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so easily
beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman
had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would
be trying to *stop* Ultra Man while Ultra Man would
be trying to *kill* him.
Well, if you let yourself get beaten, you're not
stopping anyone, so as a strategy, that's not very
smart.
To quote my BFF, did you ever see Superman do anything
that he couldn't have done more easily some other way?
Well, there is the fact that Superman is a dick to
contend with.
Only to Jimmy Olsen.
No, not just to Jimmy. Superman is an all-around dick.
Like here:
https://ibb.co/6K172zW
The earth explodes, 7 billion people are dead, and
Superman's biggest concern is that he's an orphan again (a
grown man orphan, no less).
And then it turns out, he's the one responsible for
blowing the earth to smithereens in the first place:
https://ibb.co/h12CSVsB
Thanks a lot, dick.
Later in the comic, Superman swoops in and destroys a
building that was set for demolition to show off for the
cameras. It's hilarious how the construction foreman is
excited that "Superman is doing in second what it would
take my wrecking crew weeks to do!"
Yeah, and now those guys are losing out on several weeks'
work and your company isn't going to be paid its full
demolition fee. You're too stupid to realize that Superman
is just being a dick again
(It's nice that all the henchmen showed up to do their
crime in suits and ties. They had a much more classy level
of bad guy back then.)
And then there was the time Superman tied a bunch of
planets together with a giant chain and pulled them across
the cosmos.
https://ibb.co/n8fbQCrN
SUPERMAN: "By moving these worlds from their own dying
galaxy to new suns at the other side of universe, I'm
saving billions of lives!"
No you're not, dick.
The moment you towed them away from their suns, all life
on those planets was doomed. They'd freeze solid within
days. The ecosystems would be forever trashed and the
tidal forces generated by yanking them around would throw
the oceans over the continents and cause planet-wide
earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
Oh, and considering that you're heading for "the other
side of the universe", you're gonna have to drag them
about 91 billion light years. Even if you could pull them
at the speed of light, that's still a 91 billion-year
journey and traveling that fast would also instantly kill
all life on the planets.
And where the frak did Superman get a chain that big and
long? And what's it hooked to that wouldn't snap off
rather than drag the planet?
BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 9, 2025 at 4:33:14 PM PDT, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10c6i4o$1q485$12@dont-email.me>,
atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:35:23 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
<anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan <tednolan>> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about
it, I think I may have been a little bit too
kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give
it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one
point too high. When I think about the amount of
times Superman needed to be rescued in that
movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes
a point of saying he's the mightiest Meta human
of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits,
that was the first time he lost a fight, which
makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate
with each of them inflicting equal damage on the
other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so easily
beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman
had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would
be trying to *stop* Ultra Man while Ultra Man would
be trying to *kill* him.
Well, if you let yourself get beaten, you're not
stopping anyone, so as a strategy, that's not very
smart.
To quote my BFF, did you ever see Superman do anything
that he couldn't have done more easily some other way?
Well, there is the fact that Superman is a dick to
contend with.
Only to Jimmy Olsen.
No, not just to Jimmy. Superman is an all-around dick.
Like here:
https://ibb.co/6K172zW
The earth explodes, 7 billion people are dead, and
Superman's biggest concern is that he's an orphan again (a
grown man orphan, no less).
And then it turns out, he's the one responsible for
blowing the earth to smithereens in the first place:
https://ibb.co/h12CSVsB
Thanks a lot, dick.
Later in the comic, Superman swoops in and destroys a
building that was set for demolition to show off for the
cameras. It's hilarious how the construction foreman is
excited that "Superman is doing in second what it would
take my wrecking crew weeks to do!"
Yeah, and now those guys are losing out on several weeks'
work and your company isn't going to be paid its full
demolition fee. You're too stupid to realize that Superman
is just being a dick again
(It's nice that all the henchmen showed up to do their
crime in suits and ties. They had a much more classy level
of bad guy back then.)
And then there was the time Superman tied a bunch of
planets together with a giant chain and pulled them across
the cosmos.
https://ibb.co/n8fbQCrN
SUPERMAN: "By moving these worlds from their own dying
galaxy to new suns at the other side of universe, I'm
saving billions of lives!"
No you're not, dick.
The moment you towed them away from their suns, all life
on those planets was doomed. They'd freeze solid within
days. The ecosystems would be forever trashed and the
tidal forces generated by yanking them around would throw
the oceans over the continents and cause planet-wide
earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
Oh, and considering that you're heading for "the other
side of the universe", you're gonna have to drag them
about 91 billion light years. Even if you could pull them
at the speed of light, that's still a 91 billion-year
journey and traveling that fast would also instantly kill
all life on the planets.
And where the frak did Superman get a chain that big and
long? And what's it hooked to that wouldn't snap off
rather than drag the planet?
Wow! What terrific reminders of my yout!
My first introduction to the miseries of inflation happened
when DC comics went from 10 cents each to 12 cents each.
But my allowance didn't change.
I don't remember Supe being a dick, but I sure gobbled up
those stories back in the day.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane with those images!
Nyssa, who also remembers when first-class postage stamps
went from 3 cents to 4 cents each (what are they now, ~66
cents each?)
BTR1701 wrote:
On Oct 9, 2025 at 4:33:14 PM PDT, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10c6i4o$1q485$12@dont-email.me>,
atropos@mac.com wrote:
On Oct 8, 2025 at 1:35:23 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
<anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan <tednolan>> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
You know, having had some time to think about
it, I think I may have been a little bit too
kind to James Gunn's Superman movie. I did give
it a 6.5 out of 10. Maybe that was at least one
point too high. When I think about the amount of
times Superman needed to be rescued in that
movie,
And yet one of the ubiquitous TV reporters makes
a point of saying he's the mightiest Meta human
of them all.
According to the intro after the opening credits,
that was the first time he lost a fight, which
makes sense because Ultra Man was actually a clone
of Superman.
Which means at best, it would have been a stalemate
with each of them inflicting equal damage on the
other. It doesn't explain why Ultraman so easily
beat Superman.
Well, in-movie I'd say for the same reasons Superman
had more trouble
with the Kaju than the Justice Gang did. He would
be trying to *stop* Ultra Man while Ultra Man would
be trying to *kill* him.
Well, if you let yourself get beaten, you're not
stopping anyone, so as a strategy, that's not very
smart.
To quote my BFF, did you ever see Superman do anything
that he couldn't have done more easily some other way?
Well, there is the fact that Superman is a dick to
contend with.
Only to Jimmy Olsen.
No, not just to Jimmy. Superman is an all-around dick.
Like here:
https://ibb.co/6K172zW
The earth explodes, 7 billion people are dead, and
Superman's biggest concern is that he's an orphan again (a
grown man orphan, no less).
And then it turns out, he's the one responsible for
blowing the earth to smithereens in the first place:
https://ibb.co/h12CSVsB
Thanks a lot, dick.
Later in the comic, Superman swoops in and destroys a
building that was set for demolition to show off for the
cameras. It's hilarious how the construction foreman is
excited that "Superman is doing in second what it would
take my wrecking crew weeks to do!"
Yeah, and now those guys are losing out on several weeks'
work and your company isn't going to be paid its full
demolition fee. You're too stupid to realize that Superman
is just being a dick again
(It's nice that all the henchmen showed up to do their
crime in suits and ties. They had a much more classy level
of bad guy back then.)
And then there was the time Superman tied a bunch of
planets together with a giant chain and pulled them across
the cosmos.
https://ibb.co/n8fbQCrN
SUPERMAN: "By moving these worlds from their own dying
galaxy to new suns at the other side of universe, I'm
saving billions of lives!"
No you're not, dick.
The moment you towed them away from their suns, all life
on those planets was doomed. They'd freeze solid within
days. The ecosystems would be forever trashed and the
tidal forces generated by yanking them around would throw
the oceans over the continents and cause planet-wide
earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
Oh, and considering that you're heading for "the other
side of the universe", you're gonna have to drag them
about 91 billion light years. Even if you could pull them
at the speed of light, that's still a 91 billion-year
journey and traveling that fast would also instantly kill
all life on the planets.
And where the frak did Superman get a chain that big and
long? And what's it hooked to that wouldn't snap off
rather than drag the planet?
Wow! What terrific reminders of my yout!
My first introduction to the miseries of inflation happened
when DC comics went from 10 cents each to 12 cents each.
But my allowance didn't change.
I don't remember Supe being a dick, but I sure gobbled up
those stories back in the day.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane with those images!
Nyssa, who also remembers when first-class postage stamps
went from 3 cents to 4 cents each (what are they now, ~66
cents each?)