• Re: [OT] Albania has a government minister that is an AI

    From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Oct 4 16:26:37 2025
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    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    . . .

    You mean old farts like me who formerly had one but gave it up at end
    of contract due to getting a call when I was on the highway at fairly
    high speed, pulling over expecting an emergency from home only to find
    out some telemarketer had gotten my number and called.

    I had about 3 weeks left on my contract and told my provider I would
    NOT be renewing - who then charged me a disconnection fee!

    Can you port out the telephone number in Canada? In the United States,
    if switching carriers, the port out must occur before the contract with
    the losing carrier expires or, if no contract, whilst the service is
    still live. One must not contact the losing carrier first to avoid
    having them "accidentally" disconnect the account to prevent port out.

    I'm about to go through this myself, what with the the new Comcast plan
    in which services are no longer bundled but itemized separately with multi-service discounts. I need to get this very high recurring
    charge off the Comcast bill. I'll buy another OBi ATA, although OBi
    truly no longer exists.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Oct 4 12:53:50 2025
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    On 2025-10-04 12:26 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    . . .

    You mean old farts like me who formerly had one but gave it up at end
    of contract due to getting a call when I was on the highway at fairly
    high speed, pulling over expecting an emergency from home only to find
    out some telemarketer had gotten my number and called.

    I had about 3 weeks left on my contract and told my provider I would
    NOT be renewing - who then charged me a disconnection fee!

    Can you port out the telephone number in Canada?

    Yes. I've never done it but it was an option a few years back when I was making changes to my phone service; I assume it is still an option.

    In the United States,
    if switching carriers, the port out must occur before the contract with
    the losing carrier expires or, if no contract, whilst the service is
    still live. One must not contact the losing carrier first to avoid
    having them "accidentally" disconnect the account to prevent port out.

    I'm about to go through this myself, what with the the new Comcast plan
    in which services are no longer bundled but itemized separately with multi-service discounts. I need to get this very high recurring
    charge off the Comcast bill. I'll buy another OBi ATA, although OBi
    truly no longer exists.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Oct 4 13:05:00 2025
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    On 2025-10-04 11:57 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Not only is Starmer facing public polling of 90% or more against digital ID, >> but even members of his own party are revolting against the idea. This guy has
    the political instincts of platypus.

    And how does digital ID even work, anyway? No one ever seems to explain it in
    the news reports I've seen. Is it truly digital--, i.e., no physical ID card,
    just a digital file somewhere? Or is it a physical card with digital/encrypted
    features, like our Real IDs?

    The fact is that the details are still being worked out. So says this
    video, which explains the background, the concept, and the reception the
    idea is getting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M28u-aiog5E [8 minutes]

    For what it's worth, I've seen other videos saying the reception is FAR
    more negative than this, in the range of 90% opposed.>
    I have a strong impression that they would implement the Chinese
    Communist Party system, that use of a smart phone is required for all
    social interaction and commercial transaction, too allow the government
    to be informed of anyone interacted with and to create full
    documentation of all movement.

    Just make the chip in the brain, a la The President's Analyst (1967), mandatory. That should work till DNA can be identfied by satellite and
    looked up in Penelope's couch database.

    If it's the former, how are people who don't have smart phones supposed to use
    it? And they *will* have to use it. The way Starmer describes it, it'll be >> illegal to have a job or even buy/sell anything without one.** Surely there >> are loads of people-- most of them elderly-- who don't have smart phones. Is >> the government really going to require every citizen to go out and spend a >> rather largish chunk of money they may not even have to buy a smart phone so >> they can use a digital ID and not be shut out from society?

    **This whole digital ID scheme sounds suspiciously like the Mark of the Beast
    as described in the Bible, which is sure to throw the religious
    fundamentalists into a tizzy.

    Revelation 13:16-18 - And the Beast required all people small and great, rich
    and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their >> forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark-- the name >> of the Beast or the number of its name. Here is wisdom: let he who has
    understanding calculate the number of the Beast, for it is the number of a >> man, and his number is 666.

    Has anyone checked Starmer's hairline lately? Maybe for a suspicious
    numerically-shaped birthmark? And accepting this 'mark' seems like an express
    elevator to hell:

    Revelation 14:9-11 - And a third angel followed them, calling out in a loud >> voice, "If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark, he >> too will drink the wine of GodrCOs anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His
    wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy
    angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever.
    Day and night there is no rest for those who worship the beast and its image,
    or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Sat Oct 4 11:48:25 2025
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    On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 18:30:22 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    I had about 3 weeks left on my contract and told my provider I would
    NOT be renewing - who then charged me a disconnection fee!

    Yeah, they will always get their money.

    I never have had a problem with that - what I had and still do have is
    a serious disregard for companies who think they are "entitled" to
    MORE than they're due.

    In their case it was demanding "notice" (and billing me an extra 2
    months if they don't get it) when their contract ends and you choose
    not to renew it and told them so multiple times.

    In the end I gave them a cheque and told them "this is a **** charge
    but you're NOT going to try to spoil my credit rating. On the other
    hand, if you DO cash it I will make a career out of besmirching your
    company's reputation and I emphasize - I've been doing this for 10+
    years with <xxxxx - a burger company known for their root beer>". They
    did which is why I still talk negatively about Rogers Video 15 years
    onwards)
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 8 18:46:27 2025
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    On Oct 4, 2025 at 8:57:28 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Not only is Starmer facing public polling of 90% or more against digital ID, >> but even members of his own party are revolting against the idea. This guy >> has
    the political instincts of platypus.

    And how does digital ID even work, anyway? No one ever seems to explain it in
    the news reports I've seen. Is it truly digital--, i.e., no physical ID card,
    just a digital file somewhere? Or is it a physical card with
    digital/encrypted
    features, like our Real IDs?

    I have a strong impression that they would implement the Chinese
    Communist Party system, that use of a smart phone is required for all
    social interaction and commercial transaction, too allow the government
    to be informed of anyone interacted with and to create full
    documentation of all movement.

    Just make the chip in the brain, a la The President's Analyst (1967), mandatory. That should work till DNA can be identfied by satellite and
    looked up in Penelope's couch database.

    Okay, the UK government website says "no one will be forced to carry a digital ID, which will be stored as a file on smartphones, nor will police be
    empowered to demand you produce it".

    So they are going to require every citizen, even the 85-year-old great-grandma who can't even work her tea kettle properly, to have a smartphone. It doesn't say what happens if you can't afford to buy a smartphone (and the monthly
    phone bill that comes with it).


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Oct 8 16:50:30 2025
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    On 2025-10-08 2:46 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 4, 2025 at 8:57:28 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Not only is Starmer facing public polling of 90% or more against digital ID,
    but even members of his own party are revolting against the idea. This guy >>> has
    the political instincts of platypus.

    And how does digital ID even work, anyway? No one ever seems to explain it in
    the news reports I've seen. Is it truly digital--, i.e., no physical ID card,
    just a digital file somewhere? Or is it a physical card with
    digital/encrypted
    features, like our Real IDs?

    I have a strong impression that they would implement the Chinese
    Communist Party system, that use of a smart phone is required for all
    social interaction and commercial transaction, too allow the government
    to be informed of anyone interacted with and to create full
    documentation of all movement.

    Just make the chip in the brain, a la The President's Analyst (1967),
    mandatory. That should work till DNA can be identfied by satellite and
    looked up in Penelope's couch database.

    Okay, the UK government website says "no one will be forced to carry a digital
    ID, which will be stored as a file on smartphones, nor will police be empowered to demand you produce it".

    Maybe that will be the initial intent but there is NOTHING except the non-existent self-restraint of the Labour Party to keep them from
    amending the law in very short order if they deem it valuable to do so.

    So they are going to require every citizen, even the 85-year-old great-grandma
    who can't even work her tea kettle properly, to have a smartphone. It doesn't say what happens if you can't afford to buy a smartphone (and the monthly phone bill that comes with it).


    They might come up with yet another government program to help people
    buy really cheap cell phones so that they can have the digital ID. Then
    again, that might only be available to the thousands of illegals who
    wash up on their shores every week, who get to stay in posh hotels that
    many ordinary Brits can't afford, get to jump the line at the NHS
    hospitals and clinics, ahead of people who have spent their whole lives
    paying in to the NHS.
    --
    Rhino
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