• Re: [OT] Two of the Manchester synagogue victims were shot by police

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Oct 4 13:14:39 2025
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    On 2025-10-03 3:43 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 3, 2025 at 12:18:55 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2025-10-03 2:18 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Oct 3, 2025 at 5:00:23 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    As if the Manchester tragedy wasn't bad enough already, it is now
    emerging that two of the people who fell in yesterday's terrorist attack >>>> in Manchester were the victim of police bullets. Apparently, armed
    police shot through one of the doors to the synagogue and killed one man >>>> and injured another. The shooting victims were apparently trying to hold >>>> the door closed against the terrorist.

    Lesson number one they taught us on the firearms range: you're responsible
    for
    every bullet you fire. Never shoot unless you can see your target and always
    know what's behind your target.
    So I *did* understand that correctly! Thanks for confirming that.

    It seems that the police did about the same amount of damage to the
    innocent people at the synagogue as the terrorist did. That's a VERY bad
    look for the police.

    Someone's head should probably roll for this fiasco unless they can
    prove the circumstances made it utterly necessary to shoot through the
    door. The officer(s) who took the shot(s) should probably lose their
    jobs

    Unless they can articulate some extraordinary reason for their actions, they shouldn't just be fired, they should be sent to prison for manslaughter at a minimum. If it were up to me, they'd get 2nd-degree murder.


    Good point: they didn't just break a protocol that they should have
    learned in training, they killed an innocent man and injured another.
    (The injured man is expected to survive.) And yes, a thorough
    investigation needs to look at this to be sure there were no extenuating circumstances that might justify shooting through the door. It seems
    unlikely that such circumstances exist but that doesn't mean it's
    impossible.

    It wouldn't be the first time the armed police in Britain messed up. A
    few months back, I saw a 4 part documentary about how they shot a
    Brazilian carpenter named Jean Charles de Menezes in the subway after mistaking him for a terrorist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes
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    Rhino
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