• What Did You Watch? 2025-08-29 (Friday)

    From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 04:30:41 2025
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    I watched:

    Bill MaherAs Highly Sexual and Inappropriate Remarks During His
    Interview With TV Icon Barbara Eden:
    Maureen Callahan unleashes on Bill Maher over his degrading, sexist
    remarks toward Barbara Eden during her appearance on oClub Random,o and
    more.
    https://youtu.be/VdjVKxtcz6A?si=vOynd2jMbTtCmzlo

    Bill Maher is such a creep.

    Democrats Just Crossed The Line:
    Ben Shapiro exposes how Democrats like Gavin Newsom and John Larson
    push dangerous rhetoric to score attention while ignoring the real
    problems plaguing blue-run cities. https://youtu.be/6d9tqn6wqQY?si=U5yRENrLqSKcsHLS

    FRIDAY NIGHT VIDEOSS
    https://youtu.be/arGuD5ZFL2M?si=1ag28AWn_rHQUtux
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    love this country.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@ijball@mac.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 12:35:54 2025
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    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]

    I'm going to do two follow-up posts here...

    First, the week(+!)-long recap of stuff I have watched but didn't
    mention before, because I've been so busy with work (and my video game!)
    this summer:

    soaps: GH - thru Wed's ep. Ric Lansing isn't dead! Instead, Ava,
    horrible Kristina and Alexis conspire to keep Ric captive, for a month!
    (How will they pull this off?!) I'm wondering if Willow is "playing"
    Drew (that would be so rich!), as she agrees to get back with Drew if he
    can get her kids back (I think she intends to get her kids back, and
    then renege on the deal!). Maxie (Zenon!) slips into a coma so they ship
    her off-camera while the actress is on leave.
    DOOL - thru Wed's ep. Yep, Rachel shot EJ, which EJ remembers. But
    Rachel doesn't remember it, so Marlena, EJ and Kristin conspire to get
    Johnny off on the attempted murder charge while protecting Rachel, by
    having Kristen confess to shooting EJ (even though she didn't do it!!)
    Are they writing out Stacy Haiduk (at least for a while)?!...
    Y&R and B&B - Pass.

    Over the past two(+?) weeks before yesterday, I've watched 2 flicks, and several Lifetime movies - flicks first:

    Cleaner (HBO Max) - This was barely OK - it was mostly mediocre. "Die
    Hard" it ain't. I did appreciate the bait-and-switch on the main
    villain. But the ultimate main villain's motivation was completely unbelievable which doesn't help when you're already dealing with a
    mediocre actioner. Daisy Ridley is OK in this, but I doubt it's going to
    make her an "action star".

    The Fix (Prime Video) - They want you to think this is a dystopian
    sci-fi flick, but by the end you come to realize that it's actually a "superhero origin story" (pretty much ripping off Spider-Man,
    basically). That's all well in good, but the flick was obviously filmed
    for a $1.98! - in Cape Town, South Africa!! This movie is for you if you
    want to see Grace Van Dien in her skivvies a lot (no actual naked nudity tho!), but it turns out she really is super-skinny, so this is less
    enticing than you might think. (Note: This was filmed in 2023, before
    Grace Van Dien apparently quit the business(??) after being sexually harassed(?) - honestly, I don't know if that stuck or if Van Dien has
    gone back to acting... but she's been very quiet over the last couple of
    years after appearing in "Stranger Things"...) Anyway, this was mostly mediocre - it had an OK premise, but the low budget really did not help
    here.

    Lifetime/LMN flicks:

    Eat, Pray, Lie (LMN) - This wasn't horrible, but it was pretty over the
    top. For a change of pace, Chelsea Rose Cook played the dopey heroine,
    rather than the villainess (she was always the villainess before this
    flick).

    Dead Girl Summer (Lifetime) - This was one of Lifetime's "paranoid"
    thrillers - I actually liked this one OK. Sydney Hamm - another one
    playing a heroine for the first time after playing the villainess
    previously - stars. The gist: her friend was killed (murdered?) one or
    two summers ago. She comes back to the lakeside town where it happened
    with her bestie (the lovely, but short! Madison Crawford, though I don't
    care for her as a blonde as she is here). But her bestie soon goes
    missing! Their townie friend's girlfriend (Savoy Bailey) couldn't look
    any more guilty here if she tried, but at least they uncorked a twist at
    the end which somewhat redeemed that.

    The Doctor with Two Faces (LMN) - Originally I was going to go into a
    long rant about how Masiela Lusha has ruined her looks - let's just go
    with this: in this film, Charisma Carpenter, who is a decade and a half
    older! looks much better in this than Lusha does! I'm sure Carpenter has
    had "work done", but is Charisma's case the work that's been done is
    *subtle*. Lusha's "face work", OTOH, is absolutely *not subtle* and
    looks horrible! So that's how a woman of about 40 can look way worse
    than a woman of 55!
    Beyond that, this movie was pretty poor. Charisma was the best thing
    here, but her character was pretty horrible. Beyond that, this felt like
    an Asylum-level Lifetime flick (it's not from Asylum, tho) - it's
    screechy and unsubtle and over-the-top and not very believable.

    Fit for Murder (LMN?) - This is actually a 2024 Tubi flick... Anyway,
    add Paris Smith to the list of (young) actresses who have completely
    ruined their looks - from the looks of it, Smith had the works done:
    nose job (for sure), lips (for sure), and almost certainly cheeks as
    well. Smith is now unrecognizable from when she was on "Every Witch Way"
    10 years ago... Aside from that, this was pretty much what I expected.
    It actually wasn't terrible, but every time Smith was on camera I was
    taken out of the scene by how awful I think she looks now. At least that
    kind of fit her character who was a pathetic, drug-addicted fraudster
    thief (and cheater!) who gets herself murdered by two "celebrity"
    meathead influencers. This is actually based on a true story.

    Do Exactly As I Say (Lifetime) - This was actually a cut above: Erin
    Karpluk (looking every minute of her age, if not older!) plays the
    personal chef to some zillionaire couple who run an energy company. Soon enough, her tween daughter gets kidnapped by a mystery person who wants
    to use Karpluk's proximity to the zillionaire couple to get dirt on them
    and take them down, and orders Karpluk to do so! There was a twist with
    the ID of the mystery person - their original culprit was a surprise;
    the ultimate culprit really wasn't.


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  • From Ian J. Ball@ijball@mac.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 13:03:36 2025
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    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]

    And now for what I actually did watch on Thursday and yesterday - I got through two LMN flicks, and a Marvel flick!:

    THUR:

    Trust Her If You Dare (LMN) - As I like Jennings Rice, I watched this.
    But this time it kind of felt like Rice was miscast (I just didn't buy
    her as a reformed "black sheep"/bad girl). And the "mystery" of this one
    was pretty much ruined by the "Conservation of Characters" rule (IOW,
    after a certain point, the "mystery bad guy" can only be one person, so
    you know who it is before the "reveal")... However, I did appreciate
    that the boyfriend turned out to be a "villain red herring" - most
    Lifetime flicks would have played it straight with the boyfriend turning
    out to be the killer/villain, but mercifully this one pulls the twist on that... Anyway, this was a mediocre thriller, held back by "Conservation
    of Characters", and by me not buying Jennings Rice as a "reformed bad
    girl" - next time, stick to having Rice play straight-up heroines who
    are in over their heads! She's good at that!


    FRI:

    The Beach Read Murders (LMN) - For a quick stretch towards the end of
    this flick, I thought they were actually going to try and execute the
    "triple twist"! FTR, I have never seen a Lifetime flick try a "triple
    twist"! - A few of them go for "double twist" endings, but none have
    ever tried a "triple twist" IIRC!!... In the end, this one settled for a double twist. Christie Leverette (I really dislike her braided hairstyle here!) plays the author of a popular romance/thriller series. She takes
    time off somewhere in Florida(?) to try to write her latest novel while
    in the midst of a divorce. Once there in the seaside resort town, weird
    stuff starts happening. Soon enough, she realizes that she's being
    stalked, and her stalker is following the plots of her novels. Is it the
    hunky PI (Rob Mayes) that her soon-to-be ex-husband hired? Is it the ex (Colton Tapp)? The ex's new girlfriend (Rachel Turner, formerly Rachel
    Pusey Turner - I'm glad to see she is still working!)? Etc. There are
    actually a lot of suspects here. They hone in on particular suspect
    early on but that would be the "single twist" answer!... Anyway, this
    wasn't bad - I enjoyed it for what it was.

    Thunderbolts* (Disney+) - While this wasn't bad, ultimately I was
    disappointed by it.
    I expected this flick to be as amusing as "Black Widow", and it
    wasn't, so that was strike #1. I also expected it to be much more action-oriented, but this flick has surprisingly few action sequences.
    Strike #2. Then they killed [spoilers!] off after a mere few seconds,
    and that just pissed me off. Strike #3.
    Ultimately, rather than being an "action picture", this is more of a brooding rumination on depression and bipolar disorder, or something.
    (Hint: This is not what I want out of my Marvel flicks!)
    There were some good parts in here - David Harbour is the one thing
    here that consistently delivers, as does Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
    But this is definitely the latest piece of evidence that the MCU
    people have lost their way - I think they've managed only 1 or 2
    actually good flicks among the last 6-8 (at least). IOW, nearly
    everything since "Endgame" has been poor, and I think *everything* with
    the "new heroes" has been poor.
    I'm wondering if they can turn this around...


    What did you watch?


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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 13:32:18 2025
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    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]

    And now for what I actually did watch on Thursday and yesterday - I got through two LMN flicks, and a Marvel flick!:

    THUR:

    Trust Her If You Dare (LMN) - As I like Jennings Rice, I watched this.
    But this time it kind of felt like Rice was miscast (I just didn't buy
    her as a reformed "black sheep"/bad girl). And the "mystery" of this one
    was pretty much ruined by the "Conservation of Characters" rule (IOW,
    after a certain point, the "mystery bad guy" can only be one person, so
    you know who it is before the "reveal")... However, I did appreciate
    that the boyfriend turned out to be a "villain red herring" - most
    Lifetime flicks would have played it straight with the boyfriend turning
    out to be the killer/villain, but mercifully this one pulls the twist on that... Anyway, this was a mediocre thriller, held back by "Conservation
    of Characters", and by me not buying Jennings Rice as a "reformed bad
    girl" - next time, stick to having Rice play straight-up heroines who
    are in over their heads! She's good at that!


    FRI:

    The Beach Read Murders (LMN) - For a quick stretch towards the end of
    this flick, I thought they were actually going to try and execute the "triple twist"! FTR, I have never seen a Lifetime flick try a "triple twist"! - A few of them go for "double twist" endings, but none have
    ever tried a "triple twist" IIRC!!... In the end, this one settled for a double twist. Christie Leverette (I really dislike her braided hairstyle here!) plays the author of a popular romance/thriller series. She takes
    time off somewhere in Florida(?) to try to write her latest novel while
    in the midst of a divorce. Once there in the seaside resort town, weird stuff starts happening. Soon enough, she realizes that she's being
    stalked, and her stalker is following the plots of her novels. Is it the hunky PI (Rob Mayes) that her soon-to-be ex-husband hired? Is it the ex (Colton Tapp)? The ex's new girlfriend (Rachel Turner, formerly Rachel
    Pusey Turner - I'm glad to see she is still working!)? Etc. There are actually a lot of suspects here. They hone in on particular suspect
    early on but that would be the "single twist" answer!... Anyway, this
    wasn't bad - I enjoyed it for what it was.

    Thunderbolts* (Disney+) - While this wasn't bad, ultimately I was disappointed by it.
    I expected this flick to be as amusing as "Black Widow", and it
    wasn't, so that was strike #1. I also expected it to be much more action-oriented, but this flick has surprisingly few action sequences. Strike #2. Then they killed [spoilers!] off after a mere few seconds,
    and that just pissed me off. Strike #3.

    It never really recovered from that.

    Ultimately, rather than being an "action picture", this is more of a brooding rumination on depression and bipolar disorder, or something.
    (Hint: This is not what I want out of my Marvel flicks!)
    There were some good parts in here - David Harbour is the one thing
    here that consistently delivers, as does Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
    But this is definitely the latest piece of evidence that the MCU
    people have lost their way - I think they've managed only 1 or 2
    actually good flicks among the last 6-8 (at least). IOW, nearly
    everything since "Endgame" has been poor, and I think *everything* with
    the "new heroes" has been poor.
    I'm wondering if they can turn this around...


    I not only expect, but I hope everything with Pedro Pascal fails.


    What did you watch?



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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 13:32:19 2025
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    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]

    I'm going to do two follow-up posts here...

    First, the week(+!)-long recap of stuff I have watched but didn't
    mention before, because I've been so busy with work (and my video game!) this summer:

    soaps: GH - thru Wed's ep. Ric Lansing isn't dead! Instead, Ava,
    horrible Kristina and Alexis conspire to keep Ric captive, for a month!
    (How will they pull this off?!) I'm wondering if Willow is "playing"
    Drew (that would be so rich!), as she agrees to get back with Drew if he
    can get her kids back (I think she intends to get her kids back, and
    then renege on the deal!). Maxie (Zenon!) slips into a coma so they ship
    her off-camera while the actress is on leave.
    DOOL - thru Wed's ep. Yep, Rachel shot EJ, which EJ remembers. But
    Rachel doesn't remember it, so Marlena, EJ and Kristin conspire to get Johnny off on the attempted murder charge while protecting Rachel, by
    having Kristen confess to shooting EJ (even though she didn't do it!!)
    Are they writing out Stacy Haiduk (at least for a while)?!...
    Y&R and B&B - Pass.

    Over the past two(+?) weeks before yesterday, I've watched 2 flicks, and several Lifetime movies - flicks first:

    Cleaner (HBO Max) - This was barely OK - it was mostly mediocre. "Die
    Hard" it ain't. I did appreciate the bait-and-switch on the main
    villain. But the ultimate main villain's motivation was completely unbelievable which doesn't help when you're already dealing with a
    mediocre actioner. Daisy Ridley is OK in this, but I doubt it's going to make her an "action star".

    The Fix (Prime Video) - They want you to think this is a dystopian
    sci-fi flick, but by the end you come to realize that it's actually a "superhero origin story" (pretty much ripping off Spider-Man,
    basically). That's all well in good, but the flick was obviously filmed
    for a $1.98! - in Cape Town, South Africa!! This movie is for you if you want to see Grace Van Dien in her skivvies a lot (no actual naked nudity tho!), but it turns out she really is super-skinny, so this is less
    enticing than you might think. (Note: This was filmed in 2023, before
    Grace Van Dien apparently quit the business(??) after being sexually harassed(?) - honestly, I don't know if that stuck or if Van Dien has
    gone back to acting... but she's been very quiet over the last couple of years after appearing in "Stranger Things"...)

    Your IMDb listing for her has seven projects coming up, as well as two in
    2025, and three in 2024.
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 13:48:27 2025
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    Verily, in article <108vleo$2pb4s$1@dont-email.me>, did
    ijball@mac.invalid deliver unto us this message:
    What did you watch?


    I continue watching ST:TOS with lunch. Today was "The Changeling." This
    is the one where they meet Nomad, and Kirk eventually defeats it by
    arguing with it. It's amazing how many programmers of the future never
    learned to sanitize input data.

    It's a decent TOS episode, all things considered. It may have given
    someone the idea for the first movie.

    What did everyone else watch?
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 20:53:56 2025
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    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    I continue watching ST:TOS with lunch. Today was "The Changeling." This
    is the one where they meet Nomad, and Kirk eventually defeats it by
    arguing with it. It's amazing how many programmers of the future never >learned to sanitize input data.

    Hahahahaha

    It's a decent TOS episode, all things considered. It may have given
    someone the idea for the first movie.

    V-GER was NOMAD!
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  • From Ian J. Ball@ijball@mac.invalid to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 13:57:29 2025
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    On 8/30/25 1:32 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]

    I'm going to do two follow-up posts here...

    First, the week(+!)-long recap of stuff I have watched but didn't
    mention before, because I've been so busy with work (and my video game!)
    this summer:


    Over the past two(+?) weeks before yesterday, I've watched 2 flicks, and
    several Lifetime movies - flicks first:


    The Fix (Prime Video) - They want you to think this is a dystopian
    sci-fi flick, but by the end you come to realize that it's actually a
    "superhero origin story" (pretty much ripping off Spider-Man,
    basically). That's all well in good, but the flick was obviously filmed
    for a $1.98! - in Cape Town, South Africa!! This movie is for you if you
    want to see Grace Van Dien in her skivvies a lot (no actual naked nudity
    tho!), but it turns out she really is super-skinny, so this is less
    enticing than you might think. (Note: This was filmed in 2023, before
    Grace Van Dien apparently quit the business(??) after being sexually
    harassed(?) - honestly, I don't know if that stuck or if Van Dien has
    gone back to acting... but she's been very quiet over the last couple of
    years after appearing in "Stranger Things"...)

    Your IMDb listing for her has seven projects coming up, as well as two in 2025, and three in 2024.

    Yeah, but it's impossible to tell if those were filmed before she
    "quit". And the "Spring Breakers" sequel(?) flick is "pre-production",
    which means it's never happening.


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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 14:23:43 2025
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    Verily, in article <108vod4$2rf5b$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's a decent TOS episode, all things considered. It may have given >someone the idea for the first movie.

    V-GER was NOMAD!

    There's also "The Magicks of Megas-Tu," from the animated series. They
    went to the center of the galaxy and met the Devil. It may have inspired
    the fifth movie, when they went to the center of the galaxy and met God. Wikipedia says TMoMT was originally supposed to have God as the
    antagonist, but the network vetoed it.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 22:31:03 2025
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    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com deliver unto us this message:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's a decent TOS episode, all things considered. It may have given >>>someone the idea for the first movie.

    V-GER was NOMAD!

    There's also "The Magicks of Megas-Tu," from the animated series. They
    went to the center of the galaxy and met the Devil. It may have inspired
    the fifth movie, when they went to the center of the galaxy and met God. >Wikipedia says TMoMT was originally supposed to have God as the
    antagonist, but the network vetoed it.

    God's fee was too high?
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  • From suzeeq@suzeeq@imbris.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 16:05:21 2025
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    On 8/30/2025 12:35 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]

    I'm going to do two follow-up posts here...

    First, the week(+!)-long recap of stuff I have watched but didn't
    mention before, because I've been so busy with work (and my video game!) this summer:

    -a-a DOOL - thru Wed's ep. Yep, Rachel shot EJ, which EJ remembers. But Rachel doesn't remember it, so Marlena, EJ and Kristin conspire to get

    No, it was Kristin's idea alone. The others went along with it.

    Johnny off on the attempted murder charge while protecting Rachel, by
    having Kristen confess to shooting EJ (even though she didn't do it!!)
    Are they writing out Stacy Haiduk (at least for a while)?!...

    Probably not, Susan's back and they'll probably have Rachel remembering
    what happened. Then Rachel will likely be gone for a while.

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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@arthur@alum.calberkeley.org to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 17:11:41 2025
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    On 8/30/2025 1:32 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]
    snip

    Thunderbolts* (Disney+) - While this wasn't bad, ultimately I was
    disappointed by it.
    I expected this flick to be as amusing as "Black Widow", and it
    wasn't, so that was strike #1. I also expected it to be much more
    action-oriented, but this flick has surprisingly few action sequences.
    Strike #2. Then they killed [spoilers!] off after a mere few seconds,
    and that just pissed me off. Strike #3.

    It never really recovered from that.

    Ultimately, rather than being an "action picture", this is more of a
    brooding rumination on depression and bipolar disorder, or something.
    (Hint: This is not what I want out of my Marvel flicks!)
    There were some good parts in here - David Harbour is the one thing
    here that consistently delivers, as does Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
    But this is definitely the latest piece of evidence that the MCU
    people have lost their way - I think they've managed only 1 or 2
    actually good flicks among the last 6-8 (at least). IOW, nearly
    everything since "Endgame" has been poor, and I think *everything* with
    the "new heroes" has been poor.


    I apparently liked Thunderbolts* a lot more than you did. Then again, I thought it was very funny and full of action. Or at least enough action.




    I'm wondering if they can turn this around...


    I not only expect, but I hope everything with Pedro Pascal fails.





    Pedro Pascal isn't in Thunderbolts*. He's in Fantastic Four.

    As far as "The Fantastic Four" goes, it was by far the best live action Fantastic Four movie. Of course, that's a pretty low bar! LOL
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 21:26:52 2025
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    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 17:11:41 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    On 8/30/2025 1:32 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]
    snip

    Thunderbolts* (Disney+) - While this wasn't bad, ultimately I was
    disappointed by it.
    I expected this flick to be as amusing as "Black Widow", and it
    wasn't, so that was strike #1. I also expected it to be much more
    action-oriented, but this flick has surprisingly few action sequences.
    Strike #2. Then they killed [spoilers!] off after a mere few seconds,
    and that just pissed me off. Strike #3.

    It never really recovered from that.

    Ultimately, rather than being an "action picture", this is more of a >>> brooding rumination on depression and bipolar disorder, or something.
    (Hint: This is not what I want out of my Marvel flicks!)
    There were some good parts in here - David Harbour is the one thing
    here that consistently delivers, as does Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
    But this is definitely the latest piece of evidence that the MCU
    people have lost their way - I think they've managed only 1 or 2
    actually good flicks among the last 6-8 (at least). IOW, nearly
    everything since "Endgame" has been poor, and I think *everything* with
    the "new heroes" has been poor.


    I apparently liked Thunderbolts* a lot more than you did. Then again, I >thought it was very funny and full of action. Or at least enough action.


    Agreed. I didn't mind that it wasn't the common Avengers movie.



    I'm wondering if they can turn this around...


    I not only expect, but I hope everything with Pedro Pascal fails.





    Pedro Pascal isn't in Thunderbolts*. He's in Fantastic Four.

    As far as "The Fantastic Four" goes, it was by far the best live action >Fantastic Four movie. Of course, that's a pretty low bar! LOL
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 30 18:51:50 2025
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    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
    On 8/30/2025 1:32 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/30/25 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    [What did you watch?]
    snip

    Thunderbolts* (Disney+) - While this wasn't bad, ultimately I was
    disappointed by it.
    I expected this flick to be as amusing as "Black Widow", and it
    wasn't, so that was strike #1. I also expected it to be much more
    action-oriented, but this flick has surprisingly few action sequences.
    Strike #2. Then they killed [spoilers!] off after a mere few seconds,
    and that just pissed me off. Strike #3.

    It never really recovered from that.

    Ultimately, rather than being an "action picture", this is more of a
    brooding rumination on depression and bipolar disorder, or something.
    (Hint: This is not what I want out of my Marvel flicks!)
    There were some good parts in here - David Harbour is the one thing
    here that consistently delivers, as does Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
    But this is definitely the latest piece of evidence that the MCU
    people have lost their way - I think they've managed only 1 or 2
    actually good flicks among the last 6-8 (at least). IOW, nearly
    everything since "Endgame" has been poor, and I think *everything* with
    the "new heroes" has been poor.


    I apparently liked Thunderbolts* a lot more than you did. Then again, I thought it was very funny and full of action. Or at least enough action.




    I'm wondering if they can turn this around...


    I not only expect, but I hope everything with Pedro Pascal fails.





    Pedro Pascal isn't in Thunderbolts*. He's in Fantastic Four.


    But herCOs going to be in the avengers and probably contaminating most of the MCU stuff going forward



    As far as "The Fantastic Four" goes, it was by far the best live action Fantastic Four movie. Of course, that's a pretty low bar! LOL


    ItrCOs amazing that they continually mess up the fantastic four. It seems so easy.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 31 12:08:05 2025
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    I watched The Mind of Evil, a Doctor Who episode featuring the Third
    Doctor. The Master's up to no good again, but the Doctor gets it solved
    in the end.

    I also watched more ST:TOS. "Mirror, Mirror" is a fun look into a
    parallel universe in which the Terran Empire dominates via ruthless
    force. Evil Kirk is a little dim; he seems convinced his normal crew has mutinied, despite how different everything looks. Maybe being evil is
    hard on the mind.

    This episode was really just for fun. It sure hit us hard, though; has
    any Trek installment *not* interacted with this other universe?

    In "The Apple," Kirk happily barges into a native civilization and
    wrecks it. In this case he's mostly justified, since Vaal was trying to destroy the Enterprise, but he's still awfully cavalier about it. After killing the natives' protector god, he makes no apology. Instead, he
    makes a self-important little speech about how they'll like this
    *better* once they get used to it, while they stare at him like kids
    who've had all their devices taken away and are being told to read
    books.

    Gene Roddenberry had a real thing for challenging gods. It's a very
    Golden Age attitude.

    What did everyone else watch?
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 31 20:19:38 2025
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    I watched The Mind of Evil, a Doctor Who episode featuring the Third
    Doctor. The Master's up to no good again, but the Doctor gets it solved
    in the end.

    I also watched more ST:TOS. "Mirror, Mirror" is a fun look into a
    parallel universe in which the Terran Empire dominates via ruthless
    force. Evil Kirk is a little dim; he seems convinced his normal crew has >mutinied, despite how different everything looks. Maybe being evil is
    hard on the mind.

    This episode was really just for fun. It sure hit us hard, though; has
    any Trek installment *not* interacted with this other universe?

    Uhura was super-erotic, and Mirror Spock was a more fully-drawn
    character who loved manipulating his dim captain.

    In "The Apple," Kirk happily barges into a native civilization and
    wrecks it. In this case he's mostly justified, since Vaal was trying to >destroy the Enterprise, but he's still awfully cavalier about it. After >killing the natives' protector god, he makes no apology. Instead, he
    makes a self-important little speech about how they'll like this
    *better* once they get used to it, while they stare at him like kids
    who've had all their devices taken away and are being told to read
    books.

    Gene Roddenberry had a real thing for challenging gods. It's a very
    Golden Age attitude.

    It was badly written. If the ship hadn't been attacked, then gee, the
    script could have concentrated on the morality of Kirk's interference.
    But the ship was attacked and Vaal had to be destroyed.
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  • From danny burstein@dannyb@panix.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 31 20:21:21 2025
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    In <1092aoq$3epgc$1@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:

    [snip]

    Uhura was super-erotic, and Mirror Spock was a more fully-drawn
    character who loved manipulating his dim captain.

    "I push you away and you're supposed to come back.
    "You didn't come back..."

    (damn, I watched that six decades ago....)
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 31 14:03:51 2025
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    Verily, in article <1092aoq$3epgc$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:
    It was badly written. If the ship hadn't been attacked, then gee, the
    script could have concentrated on the morality of Kirk's interference.
    But the ship was attacked and Vaal had to be destroyed.


    They may have preferred it morally unambiguous in those days.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 31 18:13:56 2025
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    I watched The Mind of Evil, a Doctor Who episode featuring the Third
    Doctor. The Master's up to no good again, but the Doctor gets it solved
    in the end.

    I also watched more ST:TOS. "Mirror, Mirror" is a fun look into a
    parallel universe in which the Terran Empire dominates via ruthless
    force. Evil Kirk is a little dim; he seems convinced his normal crew has mutinied, despite how different everything looks. Maybe being evil is
    hard on the mind.

    This episode was really just for fun. It sure hit us hard, though; has
    any Trek installment *not* interacted with this other universe?


    Most of them.
    Voyager did not
    TNG did not
    TAS did not
    DS9 did and they were excellent
    A note about Enterprise:
    Enterprise had a mirror two parter the first half of which was actually
    pretty good and the second half of which was absolutely terrible. Now,
    since Enterprise is just an imaginary tale, being played out as a holo
    novel on the Enterprise D, it could be argued that it should count as a TNG episode.




    In "The Apple," Kirk happily barges into a native civilization and
    wrecks it. In this case he's mostly justified, since Vaal was trying to destroy the Enterprise, but he's still awfully cavalier about it. After killing the natives' protector god, he makes no apology. Instead, he
    makes a self-important little speech about how they'll like this
    *better* once they get used to it, while they stare at him like kids
    who've had all their devices taken away and are being told to read
    books.

    Gene Roddenberry had a real thing for challenging gods. It's a very
    Golden Age attitude.

    What did everyone else watch?

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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 31 18:13:57 2025
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    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    In <1092aoq$3epgc$1@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:

    [snip]

    Uhura was super-erotic, and Mirror Spock was a more fully-drawn
    character who loved manipulating his dim captain.

    "I push you away and you're supposed to come back.
    "You didn't come back..."

    (damn, I watched that six decades ago....)


    But that was real Uhura, pretending. We didnrCOt see much of mirror Uhura.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Sun Aug 31 18:13:58 2025
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    What did everyone else watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    ANCHORS AWEIGH (1945) recorded as part of the Frank Sinatra marathon on
    TCM. With Gene Kelly and Dean Stockwell and Kathryn Grayson who I always
    get mixed up with Mrs. Bing Crosby and the star of the worst episode of
    Star Trek TOS, The Empath.

    Somehow, IrCOd never seen this despite having seen the clips where Kelly
    dances with Jerry Mouse many many times. ItrCOs amazing. The animation is created by Hanna Barbera who would go on to be known for cheap TV stuff.

    The basic story is about a couple of heroic sailors on leave, trying to
    connect with women but forced by the police to befriend a runaway kid who
    wants to join the Navy and then halfway through it takes a hard right turn
    into dream sequences featuring Kelly.

    Never what I was expecting, pedestrian and compelling at the same time. Definitely worth having seen.
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