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Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
The best way to handle this is posting to eternal-september.support
since a number of News administrators read it and follow issues raised
in it.
It would help greatly if anim gave you a list of Message-IDs after
August 20 and then we could figure out why they aren't propogating. It doesn't have to be a complete list. I'd post the list to that newsgroup.
Either you or he could send me something in email.
If they show up on Usenet elsewhere, then we know that Easynews is still peering. A peer beteen news.eternal-september.org and Easynews may be down, if they don't peer directly.
It would help greatly if anim gave you a list of Message-IDs after
August 20 and then we could figure out why they aren't propogating. It doesn't have to be a complete list. I'd post the list to that newsgroup.
Either you or he could send me something in email.
If they show up on Usenet elsewhere, then we know that Easynews is still peering. A peer beteen news.eternal-september.org and Easynews may be down, if they don't peer directly.
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so >>messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That
would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
I don't think I have seen anything from him since 8/20.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.
On 8/28/25 11:44 AM, shawn wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>>> whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>>> make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.
I'll let him know. He's using NewsTap (for iOS) which could be the
issue. But I am of no real help with NewsTap support - I need a usenet
app that works on a laptop/desktop.
On 8/28/25 11:51 AM, suzeeq wrote:
On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That >>> would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
I don't think I have seen anything from him since 8/20.
It's weird that shawn seems to be able to post fine from EasyNews, but
none of Anim's posts have shown up for a week.
I'm at a loss to explain this, esp. because Anim's posts look to have
valid message ID's.
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 8/28/25 11:44 AM, shawn wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>> wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>>>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>>>> whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>>>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews. >>>>>
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>>>> make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.
I'll let him know. He's using NewsTap (for iOS) which could be the
issue. But I am of no real help with NewsTap support - I need a usenet
app that works on a laptop/desktop.
This response is via NewsTap and GigaNews. Let's see if it shows up.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:57:41 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/28/25 11:51 AM, suzeeq wrote:
On 8/28/2025 11:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but >>>> that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you >>>> see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That >>>> would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
I don't think I have seen anything from him since 8/20.
It's weird that shawn seems to be able to post fine from EasyNews, but
none of Anim's posts have shown up for a week.
I'm at a loss to explain this, esp. because Anim's posts look to have
valid message ID's.
The only thing that stood out to me while glancing through his logs
was that he is using some special characters in different parts of the
header like the date. That may be fine, but it stood out as odd to
have special character after the date.
Like Ian I have no experience with Newstap so no idea what might
cause Easynews to apparently accept the post and then junk it. It
suggests to me that his posts are somehow getting filtered out by the
EN servers.
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 8/28/25 11:44 AM, shawn wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>> wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>>>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>>>> whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>>>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews. >>>>>
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>>>> make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.
I'll let him know. He's using NewsTap (for iOS) which could be the
issue. But I am of no real help with NewsTap support - I need a usenet
app that works on a laptop/desktop.
This response is via NewsTap and GigaNews. Let's see if it shows up.
On Aug 28, 2025 at 11:36:35 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That
would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
I just loaded new messages in RAT on my iPhone using NewsTap newsreader and GigaNews as the news server and these two posts from Anim8r showed up from August 28th:
https://ibb.co/bMYbxRN4
https://ibb.co/nMcLJJMk
Those are the only two I could find since August 20th.
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT
that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the
whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to
the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can
make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
I've had no correspondence with them, sorry,
The best way to handle this is posting to eternal-september.support
since a number of News administrators read it and follow issues raised
in it.
It would help greatly if anim gave you a list of Message-IDs after
August 20 and then we could figure out why they aren't propogating. It doesn't have to be a complete list. I'd post the list to that newsgroup.
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>>> whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews.
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>>> make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so
messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.
Weird but I certainly appreciate you all trying
BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
On 8/28/25 11:44 AM, shawn wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:42:27 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:12:06 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid> >>>>> wrote:
Adam,
So I've been communicating with Anim.
I think EasyNews needs to restart their server - Anim's last post to RAT >>>>>> that we can see is from Aug. 20, but he's saying he's been posting the >>>>>> whole time since then. That probably means that his posts are getting to >>>>>> the EasyNews server, but they aren't being propagated from EasyNews. >>>>>>
Do you know anyone over at EasyNews you can contact to see if they can >>>>>> make sure their server is fine and doesn't need to be restarted so >>>>>> messages start propagating again?
Danke.
Glad to see he is still doing well or well enough.
Okay, this test shows that Easynews is working. I just posted through
Easynews and retrieved the message from Eternal-September. So I don't
know why Anim's posts aren't making it out into the world but it
doesn't seem to be a problem in Easynews. At least not one that I can
see.
I'll let him know. He's using NewsTap (for iOS) which could be the
issue. But I am of no real help with NewsTap support - I need a usenet
app that works on a laptop/desktop.
This response is via NewsTap and GigaNews. Let's see if it shows up.
Works for me
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 11:36:35 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
wrote:
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That >>> would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
I just loaded new messages in RAT on my iPhone using NewsTap newsreader and >> GigaNews as the news server and these two posts from Anim8r showed up from >> August 28th:
https://ibb.co/bMYbxRN4
https://ibb.co/nMcLJJMk
Those are the only two I could find since August 20th.
I have a trouble ticket in with easy news. Maybe they fixed it.
I see the stuff you sent. Not sure what I understand from the logs, but
that Message-ID in the other followup should be helpful.
I'll work on this later.
In the meantime if anyone else is an Easynews user, let us know if you
see any of his articles subsequent to the 20th and post a followup. That >would make it obvious that it's missing from eternal-september,
Also, suzeeq uses solani (which I've never been able to create an
account on) and can tell us if they received those articles after the
20th.
NewsTap Log
09:33:02 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:33:03 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:33:03 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:33:03 S0: 381 PASS required
09:33:03 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:33:03 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see >https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:33:03 C0: MODE READER
09:33:03 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:33:03 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:33:03 S0: 211 3094055 2 3094056 rec.arts.tv
09:33:03 C0: ARTICLE 3093934
09:33:03 S0: 220 3093934 <jdtuak96gugtrrr9id3skpn8489mtct85h@4ax.com>
09:52:56 Server #0: news.easynews.com
09:52:56 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome!
09:52:56 C0: AUTHINFO USER anim8rfsk
09:52:56 S0: 381 PASS required
09:52:56 C0: AUTHINFO PASS ********************
09:52:56 S0: 281 Welcome To Easynews. Account failure issues please see >https://account.easynews.com (Posting Allowed)
09:52:56 C0: MODE READER
09:52:56 S0: 200 news.easynews.com Welcome! (Posting Allowed)
09:52:56 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:56 S0: 211 3094055 2 3094056 rec.arts.tv
09:52:56 C0: POST
09:52:56 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:57 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:57 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:57 S0: 211 3094056 2 3094057 rec.arts.tv
09:52:57 C0: POST
09:52:57 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:58 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:58 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:58 S0: 211 3094057 2 3094058 rec.arts.tv
09:52:58 C0: POST
09:52:58 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:52:59 S0: 240 Article Posted
09:52:59 C0: GROUP rec.arts.tv
09:52:59 S0: 211 3094058 2 3094059 rec.arts.tv
09:52:59 C0: POST
09:52:59 S0: 340 Send Article to be Posted
09:53:00 S0: 240 Article Posted
The only thing that stood out to me while glancing through his logs
was that he is using some special characters in different parts of the
header like the date. That may be fine, but it stood out as odd to
have special character after the date.
. . .--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Anim also sent me the header to his first post to the "Ping Anim" thread:
Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
Anim also sent me the header to his first post to the "Ping Anim" thread:
Ok. I saw his followups quoting his own articles that weren't on >news.eternal-september.org, the Message-ID in this entry, and a followup
from Ubi at Giganews to one of his missing articles allowing me to grab >Message-IDs from the Reference header.
I posted them in an article in eternal-september.support which is read
by various News administrators. We'll see if any can find these
Message-IDs in their logs.
I'm glad it's working for him now but I'm confused as to what happened.
How did Ubi see the one article, but H.G. (an Easynews user) saw none of
his articles during the 8 days in question?
Anim also sent me the header to his first post to the "Ping Anim" thread:
Here is a header from my first reply to the pinging ANIM thread
Re: Ping Anim
anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Aug 26, 2025 at 2:51rC>PM
Bytes: 3136
Cancel-Lock: sha1:PqjgbZ/Gg7gEEbGNCr9Nd3nvkE4=
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:51:05 -0700
From: anim8rfsk <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Lines: 60
Message-Id: <598028072.777936443.583391.@news.easynews.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
Path: not-for-mail
References: <108kn9g$2f8rc$11@dont-email.me>
Subject: Re: Ping Anim
User-Agent: NewsTap/5.6.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. >X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
X-Received-Bytes: 3269