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I woke up this morning to find that a troon shot up a Minnesota Catholic >School yesterday and killed two kids
What's interesting beyond the story itself is how the Left seems to be >collectively desperate to avoid any mention of the they/them's motive for >doing so- anti-Trump, pro-Palestine, transgender, etc. Anyone who even brings >up motive on the talking head shows is immediately shut down with some >variation of, "Motive isn't the issue here. Guns are the issue and how we're >going to get them away from people to prevent things like this in the >future."
Weird how motive is super important when it's a white guy shooting up a black >church. When that happened they couldn't stop talking about motive. But when a >crazed leftist on all sorts of tranny hormones loses it and kills a bunch of >people, we don't need to talk about motive.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
I woke up this morning to find that a troon shot up a Minnesota Catholic
School yesterday and killed two kids
What's interesting beyond the story itself is how the Left seems to be
collectively desperate to avoid any mention of the they/them's motive for
doing so- anti-Trump, pro-Palestine, transgender, etc. Anyone who even brings
up motive on the talking head shows is immediately shut down with some
variation of, "Motive isn't the issue here. Guns are the issue and how we're >> going to get them away from people to prevent things like this in the
future."
Weird how motive is super important when it's a white guy shooting up a black
church. When that happened they couldn't stop talking about motive. But when a
crazed leftist on all sorts of tranny hormones loses it and kills a bunch of >> people, we don't need to talk about motive.
I heard a quote of Cardinal Blase Cupich blame guns. Since the Church wouldn't promote transgender, he said nothing about that.
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone--
therapy? I've seen nothng.
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone
therapy? I've seen nothng.
I woke up this morning to find that a troon shot up a Minnesota Catholic School yesterday and killed two kids
What's interesting beyond the story itself is how the Left seems to be collectively desperate to avoid any mention of the they/them's motive for doing sorCo anti-Trump, pro-Palestine, transgender, etc. Anyone who even brings
up motive on the talking head shows is immediately shut down with some variation of, "Motive isn't the issue here. Guns are the issue and how we're going to get them away from people to prevent things like this in the future."
Weird how motive is super important when it's a white guy shooting up a black church. When that happened they couldn't stop talking about motive. But when a
crazed leftist on all sorts of tranny hormones loses it and kills a bunch of people, we don't need to talk about motive.
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
[snip]
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone >>therapy? I've seen nothng.
keeping in mind this is NYC's beloved Trashloid of Record:
https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/
danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
[snip]
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone
therapy? I've seen nothng.
keeping in mind this is NYC's beloved Trashloid of Record:
https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/
Thank you.
The article says man who wished to be a woman who sort of tried to live
as a woman, and was successfully able to change his name on his birth certificate to a feminine name. (It didn't say if the birth certificate
reads a different sex.)
Not a transsexual, then, no hormones, no surgery. Complained
specifically about not being able to be a woman due to current
limitations of medicine and surgery.
Then he committed the murders and suicide. Do the suicide first.
On 2025-08-28 2:42 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
[snip]
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone
therapy? I've seen nothng.
keeping in mind this is NYC's beloved Trashloid of Record:
https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/minneapolis-school-shooter-
robin-westman-confessed-he-was-tired-of-being-trans/
Thank you.
The article says man who wished to be a woman who sort of tried to live
as a woman, and was successfully able to change his name on his birth
certificate to a feminine name. (It didn't say if the birth certificate
reads a different sex.)
Not a transsexual, then, no hormones, no surgery. Complained
specifically about not being able to be a woman due to current
limitations of medicine and surgery.
Then he committed the murders and suicide. Do the suicide first.
Exactly!! I don't know how many times I've read about murder-suicides
where the killer had serious issues and wanted to die. That's fair
enough and I champion a person's innate right to commit suicide if they can't see any other way forward. But killing someone else, except in self-defence, is WRONG WRONG WRONG. If someone feels the need to end
their lives, they need to do it BUT LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE ALONE.
Exactly!! I don't know how many times I've read about murder-suicides
where the killer had serious issues and wanted to die. That's fair
enough and I champion a person's innate right to commit suicide if they >can't see any other way forward. But killing someone else, except in >self-defence, is WRONG WRONG WRONG. If someone feels the need to end
their lives, they need to do it BUT LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE ALONE.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
I woke up this morning to find that a troon shot up a Minnesota Catholic
School yesterday and killed two kids
What's interesting beyond the story itself is how the Left seems to be
collectively desperate to avoid any mention of the they/them's motive for
doing so- anti-Trump, pro-Palestine, transgender, etc. Anyone who even brings
up motive on the talking head shows is immediately shut down with some
variation of, "Motive isn't the issue here. Guns are the issue and how we're >> going to get them away from people to prevent things like this in the
future."
Weird how motive is super important when it's a white guy shooting up a black
church. When that happened they couldn't stop talking about motive. But when >> a
crazed leftist on all sorts of tranny hormones loses it and kills a bunch of >> people, we don't need to talk about motive.
I heard a quote of Cardinal Blase Cupich blame guns. Since the Church wouldn't promote transgender, he said nothing about that.
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone
therapy? I've seen nothng.
Looks like the shooter specifically targeted the school because it was a >"gun-free zone" and he knew the targets would be defenseless.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
I woke up this morning to find that a troon shot up a Minnesota Catholic >>School yesterday and killed two kids
What's interesting beyond the story itself is how the Left seems to be >>collectively desperate to avoid any mention of the they/them's motive for >>doing so- anti-Trump, pro-Palestine, transgender, etc. Anyone who even >>brings up motive on the talking head shows is immediately shut down with >>some variation of, "Motive isn't the issue here. Guns are the issue and how >>we're going to get them away from people to prevent things like this in the >>future."
Weird how motive is super important when it's a white guy shooting up a >>black church. When that happened they couldn't stop talking about motive. >>But when a crazed leftist on all sorts of tranny hormones loses it and >>kills a bunch of people, we don't need to talk about motive.
I heard a quote of Cardinal Blase Cupich blame guns. Since the Church >wouldn't promote transgender, he said nothing about that.
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone
therapy? I've seen nothng.
On Aug 28, 2025 at 10:16:55 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
I woke up this morning to find that a troon shot up a Minnesota Catholic >>> School yesterday and killed two kids
What's interesting beyond the story itself is how the Left seems to be
collectively desperate to avoid any mention of the they/them's motive for >>> doing so- anti-Trump, pro-Palestine, transgender, etc. Anyone who even brings
up motive on the talking head shows is immediately shut down with some
variation of, "Motive isn't the issue here. Guns are the issue and how we're
going to get them away from people to prevent things like this in the
future."
Weird how motive is super important when it's a white guy shooting up a black
church. When that happened they couldn't stop talking about motive. But when
a
crazed leftist on all sorts of tranny hormones loses it and kills a bunch of
people, we don't need to talk about motive.
I heard a quote of Cardinal Blase Cupich blame guns. Since the Church
wouldn't promote transgender, he said nothing about that.
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone
therapy? I've seen nothng.
Looks like the shooter specifically targeted the school because it was a "gun-free zone" and he knew the targets would be defenseless.
--------------------------------
https://www.ammoland.com/2025/08/minneapolis-school-shooter-chose-a-gun-free-zone/
The manifesto of the Catholic school shooter in Minneapolis has confirmed what
gun-rights advocates have been saying for decades: "gun-free zones" are not safe spaces-- they are killing zones.
In chilling words, the Minneapolis Trans Shooter explained his choice of target:
"I recently heard a rumor that James Holmes, the Aurora theater
shooter, may have chosen venues that were gun-free zones. I would
probably aim the same way . . . Holmes wanted to make sure his
victims would be unarmed. That's why I and many others like schools
so much. At least for me, I am focused on them. Adam Lanza is my
reason."
The shooter's words were written partly in Russian (Cyrillic), and, the clear message matches what researchers and survivors have long understood: mass killers pick locations where they know nobody can fight back.
This is not the first time evidence has pointed to killers deliberately targeting so-called gun-free areas. From the Aurora movie theater in Colorado,
to Sandy Hook, to the more recent Lewiston bowling alley massacre, nearly every modern mass shooting has taken place in a location where law-abiding citizens were banned from carrying firearms.
Alan Gottlieb of the 2nd Amendment Foundation has put it bluntly: "You're a sitting duck in a gun-free zone." Research from the Crime Prevention Research Center backs this up-- showing that over 98% of mass public shootings since 1950 happened in places where ordinary citizens were prohibited from carrying firearms.
The Minneapolis shooter himself echoed the same logic that killers before him have used: criminals don't follow rules. Gun bans don't stop attacks-- they advertise a free field of defenseless victims.
Gun-free zones were sold to the public as a way to keep people safe. Instead, they've created spaces where innocent lives are sacrificed to politics. Author
Dan Wos, writing about repeated tragedies, called them "the biggest culprit of
unnecessary and preventable death".
The failed logic is now tragically clear in Minneapolis: posting a sign or passing a law doesn't stop evil. It doesn't protect children. It doesn't save families. Instead, it creates the illusion of safety while making sure law-abiding citizens are disarmed and helpless when the worst happens.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
I woke up this morning to find that a troon shot up a Minnesota Catholic >>School yesterday and killed two kids
What's interesting beyond the story itself is how the Left seems to be >>collectively desperate to avoid any mention of the they/them's motive
for doing so- anti-Trump, pro-Palestine, transgender, etc. Anyone who
even brings up motive on the talking head shows is immediately shut
down with some variation of, "Motive isn't the issue here. Guns are
the issue and how we're going to get them away from people to prevent >>things like this in the future."
Weird how motive is super important when it's a white guy shooting up
a black church. When that happened they couldn't stop talking about
motive. But when a crazed leftist on all sorts of tranny hormones loses
it and kills a bunch of people, we don't need to talk about motive.
I heard a quote of Cardinal Blase Cupich blame guns. Since the Church >wouldn't promote transgender, he said nothing about that.
What did you read that this was a transsexual going through hormone
therapy? I've seen nothng.
My h8gh school had neither a school psychologist... nor a vampire
slayer.
My state just solved the problem! In recent legislation, there is a
statewide mandate for schools at various ages to screen children for
mental illness by mental health professionals, whatever the fuck that
means. I know what it means: An aide gets 30 to 60 minutes of training
to administer these tests. It won't be a mental health professional at
all -- psychiatriat, psychiatric social worker, psychologist, or even a psychiatric nurse. This will backfire hugely. The state board of
education, which itself has no mental health expertise, will write the regulations.
On 8/31/2025 10:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
My state just solved the problem! In recent legislation, there is a >>statewide mandate for schools at various ages to screen children for
mental illness by mental health professionals, whatever the fuck that >>means. I know what it means: An aide gets 30 to 60 minutes of training
to administer these tests. It won't be a mental health professional at
all -- psychiatrist, psychiatric social worker, psychologist, or even a >>psychiatric nurse. This will backfire hugely. The state board of
education, which itself has no mental health expertise, will write the >>regulations.
This is most likely intended to identify anyone who may be non-straight >heterosexual for "mental health care".
or just let him leave class whem he feels like he
needs to run around.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 8/31/2025 10:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
My state just solved the problem! In recent legislation, there is a
statewide mandate for schools at various ages to screen children for
mental illness by mental health professionals, whatever the fuck that
means. I know what it means: An aide gets 30 to 60 minutes of training
to administer these tests. It won't be a mental health professional at
all -- psychiatrist, psychiatric social worker, psychologist, or even a
psychiatric nurse. This will backfire hugely. The state board of
education, which itself has no mental health expertise, will write the
regulations.
This is most likely intended to identify anyone who may be non-straight
heterosexual for "mental health care".
Beyond their sexuality -- kids may not yet have had sex -- but
overall conformance with norms. Expectation to conform with norms is
bias on the part of the test giver.
On 8/31/2025 1:12 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 8/31/2025 10:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
My state just solved the problem! In recent legislation, there is a >>>>statewide mandate for schools at various ages to screen children for >>>>mental illness by mental health professionals, whatever the fuck that >>>>means. I know what it means: An aide gets 30 to 60 minutes of training >>>>to administer these tests. It won't be a mental health professional at >>>>all -- psychiatrist, psychiatric social worker, psychologist, or even a >>>>psychiatric nurse. This will backfire hugely. The state board of >>>>education, which itself has no mental health expertise, will write the >>>>regulations.
This is most likely intended to identify anyone who may be non-straight >>>heterosexual for "mental health care".
Beyond their sexuality -- kids may not yet have had sex -- but
overall conformance with norms. Expectation to conform with norms is
bias on the part of the test giver.
Especially since politicians are determining the desired "norm".
On 8/31/2025 1:12 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:Especially since politicians are determining the desired "norm".
On 8/31/2025 10:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
My state just solved the problem! In recent legislation, there is a
statewide mandate for schools at various ages to screen children for
mental illness by mental health professionals, whatever the fuck that
means. I know what it means: An aide gets 30 to 60 minutes of training >>>> to administer these tests. It won't be a mental health professional at >>>> all -- psychiatrist, psychiatric social worker, psychologist, or even a >>>> psychiatric nurse. This will backfire hugely. The state board of
education, which itself has no mental health expertise, will write the >>>> regulations.
This is most likely intended to identify anyone who may be non-straight
heterosexual for "mental health care".
Beyond their sexuality -- kids may not yet have had sex -- but
overall conformance with norms. Expectation to conform with norms is
bias on the part of the test giver.