https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
On Jul 29, 2025 at 2:29:16 AM PDT, "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers presented with
masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but they were neither male nor female.
So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right back atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never watched DS9.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Jul 29, 2025 at 2:29:16 AM PDT, "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com"
<PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce
sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers
presented with masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but
they were neither male nor female.
So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right back >> atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
Two words: frog DNA.
OK, one word and one initialism, but you get my drift
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
On 2025-07-30 21:04:11 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
"PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce >>> sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers
presented with masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but
they were neither male nor female.
So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right
back atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've >>> never watched DS9.
Two words: frog DNA.
OK, one word and one initialism, but you get my drift
There is an *unofficial* fan story "Star Trek: Conflict" which does
include the Jem'Hadar's first female, created by a genetic mutation
before fertilization due to being infected with human DNA.
Jek'Kralija is the first Jem'Hadar female.
<https://memory-gamma.fandom.com/wiki/Jek%27Kralija>
"PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce >sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers presented >with masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but they were >neither male nor female.
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
s|b wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
But there are exercise and diets.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
s|b wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
But there are exercise and diets.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
s|b wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
But there are exercise and diets.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
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s|b wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
But there are exercise and diets.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
Perhaps they've cured it in the future. Either that or there are
Starfleet fitness requirements and we're just not seeing them.
On Aug 9, 2025 at 8:25:31 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
s|b wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
But there are exercise and diets.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
Sedentary. Sedimentary would mean they accumulate layers of sediment over centuries.
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s|b wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
But there are exercise and diets.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
Perhaps they've cured it in the future. Either that or there are
Starfleet fitness requirements and we're just not seeing them.
Kirk a physical that involved enough exertion to raise a sweat.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
IKR?
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
The replicator provides low calories?
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
s|b wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
A FAT one.
There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
But there are exercise and diets.
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
their sedementary lifestyle.
The replicator provides low calories?
In article <mfs6p6Freo3U3@mid.individual.net>, me@privacy.invalid wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering >>> their sedementary lifestyle.
The replicator provides low calories?
Holodeck food?
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <mfs6p6Freo3U3@mid.individual.net>, me@privacy.invalid wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering >>> their sedementary lifestyle.
The replicator provides low calories?
Holodeck food?
VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you should just die when you walked outside.
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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <mfs6p6Freo3U3@mid.individual.net>, me@privacy.invalid wrote: >>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:
Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering >>>>> their sedementary lifestyle.
The replicator provides low calories?
Holodeck food?
VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live >> indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it >> went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
That implies... hmm, I think it implies that the crew are being
converted to virtual avatars when they enter the holodeck. Perhaps it
also works the other way, which is how the holodeck creations can occasionally escape and materialize.
Sounds crazy, but is it that far removed from transporter technology?
That also converts matter into a virtual representation and back again.
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it >> went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you >> should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that it would kill you.
Then they had an episode where they were running out of food, but itdidn?t
occur to anybody to just go into the Irish pub holodeck program and eat and drink all you want.
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it >>>> went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you >>>> should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that >> it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,
four days without water, forty days without food."
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came
out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
Then they had an episode where they were running out of food, but itdidn?t
occur to anybody to just go into the Irish pub holodeck program and eat and >> drink all you want.
...but then there's that.
Perhaps time moves differently on the holodeck? Do we know for sure that
the people inside for weeks were gone from the outside for weeks?
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,
four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply outside the holo deck
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
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Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,
four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came
out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply >> outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
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Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>> message:
VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>> four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply >>> outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending
a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>> four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
All the food replicators need is power. They donrCOt rearrange molecules. They just use power to make something out of nothing.
However, the food replicators use a different kind of power than anything else uses. The holodecks run on a different kind of power than the food replicators do. They canrCOt make real food.
IrCOm not sure how many different kinds of power Voyager requires, but they very definitely established that food replicator power is different than anything else on the ship.
All the food replicators need is power. They don?t rearrange molecules.
They just use power to make something out of nothing.
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability, >>> but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
All the food replicators need is power. They donrCOt rearrange molecules.
They just use power to make something out of nothing.
However, the food replicators use a different kind of power than anything
else uses. The holodecks run on a different kind of power than the food
replicators do. They canrCOt make real food.
IrCOm not sure how many different kinds of power Voyager requires, but they >> very definitely established that food replicator power is different than
anything else on the ship.
Food replicator power is artificial. The rest of the ship runs on natural power.
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All the food replicators need is power. They don?t rearrange molecules.
They just use power to make something out of nothing.
Well, that's certainly insane. The amount of energy needed to
materialize even a piece of toast... yeesh. They're probably using more energy on each evening's dinner than on warping around the galaxy.
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VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without
consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending
a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.
If only the voyager rCLwritersrCY had put this much effort into the show.
On 8/12/2025 12:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
Verily, in article <MPG.43050ba5768f1a8d9897d7@news.eternal-
september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
message:
Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>> message:
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>> message:
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>>>> message:
VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are >>>>> living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability, >>>> but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without
consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending
a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.
If only the voyager rCLwritersrCY had put this much effort into the show.
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.
Yes, it really was that stupid.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 8/12/2025 12:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
Verily, in article <MPG.43050ba5768f1a8d9897d7@news.eternal-
september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
message:
Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>> message:
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>>> message:
Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
message:
VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
should just die when you walked outside.
So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?
Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
it would kill you.
Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without
food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."
Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are >>>>>> living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.
Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.
And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
outside the holo deck
Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability, >>>>> but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without
consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending >>>> a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.
If only the voyager rCLwritersrCY had put this much effort into the show. >>>
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.
Yes, it really was that stupid.
I think that qualifies me for Holodeck ice cream.
Judges?
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.
Yes, it really was that stupid.
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energySo there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.
Yes, it really was that stupid.
regular energy?
On Jul 29, 2025 at 2:29:16 AM PDT, "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:
weberm@polaris.net wrote:
https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
Female Jem'Hadar.
Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
watched DS9.
The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers presented with
masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but they were neither male nor female.
So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right back atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never watched DS9.
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energySo there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.
Yes, it really was that stupid.
regular energy?
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy >>>> the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and
Yes, it really was that stupid.
regular energy?
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
socket is definitely artificial.
Mind you, I've never studied electric eels so they may not generate real electricity. Maybe it's just something different that just got called electricity mistakenly. Let's see if Claude.AI knows....
========================================================================
Q: Do electric eels really generate electricity?
A: Yes, they really do! Electric eels (which are actually more closely related to catfish than true eels) have specialized cells called electrocytes that act like biological batteries. They have three
electric organs that take up most of their body, and they can generate
up to around 600 volts rCo enough to stun prey, deter predators, and even navigate and communicate through low-level pulses. It's one of the more remarkable things in the animal kingdom. ========================================================================
Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric
eels conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your
wall socket is definitely artificial.
========================================================================
Q: Do electric eels really generate electricity?
A: Yes, they really do! Electric eels (which are actually more
closely related to catfish than true eels) have specialized cells
called electrocytes that act like biological batteries.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past
regular here, the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer,
(one of your fellow Canadidians) who, in response to people
wondering why the electricity-eating nanobots on the show REVOLUTION
didn't also absorb the electricity that runs the human nervous
system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that they must
only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural electricity'.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 3:08:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy >>>>> the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and
Yes, it really was that stupid.
regular energy?
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall
socket is definitely artificial.
But if you examine them at the atomic level, there's no difference. Electricity is electricity, no matter how it's generated.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past regular here, the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer, (one of your fellow Canadidians) who, in response to people wondering why the electricity-eating nanobots on the show REVOLUTION didn't also absorb the electricity that runs the human nervous system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that they must only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural
electricity'.
Clod's insistence on this theory has become a benchmark of stupidity in this group and a shorthand way of indicating when someone else says something of equal dumbidity.
Mind you, I've never studied electric eels so they may not generate real
electricity. Maybe it's just something different that just got called
electricity mistakenly. Let's see if Claude.AI knows....
========================================================================
Q: Do electric eels really generate electricity?
A: Yes, they really do! Electric eels (which are actually more closely
related to catfish than true eels) have specialized cells called
electrocytes that act like biological batteries. They have three
electric organs that take up most of their body, and they can generate
up to around 600 volts rCo enough to stun prey, deter predators, and even >> navigate and communicate through low-level pulses. It's one of the more
remarkable things in the animal kingdom.
========================================================================
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energySo there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.
Yes, it really was that stupid.
regular energy?
Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
socket is definitely artificial.
Mind you, I've never studied electric eels so they may not generate real electricity. Maybe it's just something different that just got called electricity mistakenly. Let's see if Claude.AI knows....
========================================================================
Q: Do electric eels really generate electricity?
A: Yes, they really do! Electric eels (which are actually more closely related to catfish than true eels) have specialized cells called electrocytes that act like biological batteries. They have three
electric organs that take up most of their body, and they can generate
up to around 600 volts rCo enough to stun prey, deter predators, and even navigate and communicate through low-level pulses. It's one of the more remarkable things in the animal kingdom. ========================================================================
I just watched the DS9 'tribute' episode with the ridiculous hologram >character trying to solve the mystery of Sisko's disappearance. It was drek as >expected but what really had me lunging for the Stop button was the fact that >they not only have the Klingon character doing gay flirting with another dude >in the bar, but he's now prancing around in a skirt with all the other girls, >too.
But if you examine them at the atomic level, there's no difference. >Electricity is electricity, no matter how it's generated.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past regular here, >the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer, (one of your fellow >Canadidians) who, in response to people wondering why the electricity-eating >nanobots on the show REVOLUTION didn't also absorb the electricity that runs >the human nervous system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that >they must only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural >electricity'.
Clod's insistence on this theory has become a benchmark of stupidity in this >group and a shorthand way of indicating when someone else says something of >equal dumbidity.
I just watched the DS9 'tribute' episode with the ridiculous hologram
character trying to solve the mystery of Sisko's disappearance. It was
drek as expected but what really had me lunging for the Stop button was
the fact that they not only have the Klingon character doing gay flirting >with another dude in the bar, but he's now prancing around in a skirt
with all the other girls,too.
That's it. I'm out. Let me know if they do a TNG tribute episode where Worf >shows up, takes one look at this non-binary they/them Klingon and just >beheads him on general principal. I'll come back and watch that.
Let me know if they do a TNG tribute episode where Worf
shows up, takes one look at this non-binary they/them Klingon and just beheads
him on general principal. I'll come back and watch that.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 3:08:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy >>>>> the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and >>>> regular energy?
Yes, it really was that stupid.
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall
socket is definitely artificial.
But if you examine them at the atomic level, there's no difference. Electricity is electricity, no matter how it's generated.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past regular here, the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer, (one of your fellow Canadidians) who, in response to people wondering why the electricity-eating nanobots on the show REVOLUTION didn't also absorb the electricity that runs the human nervous system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that they must only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural
electricity'.
Clod's insistence on this theory has become a benchmark of stupidity in this group and a shorthand way of indicating when someone else says something of equal dumbidity.
Mind you, I've never studied electric eels so they may not generate real
electricity. Maybe it's just something different that just got called
electricity mistakenly. Let's see if Claude.AI knows....
========================================================================
Q: Do electric eels really generate electricity?
A: Yes, they really do! Electric eels (which are actually more closely
related to catfish than true eels) have specialized cells called
electrocytes that act like biological batteries. They have three
electric organs that take up most of their body, and they can generate
up to around 600 volts rCo enough to stun prey, deter predators, and even
navigate and communicate through low-level pulses. It's one of the more
remarkable things in the animal kingdom.
========================================================================
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
"Melissa Hollingsworth" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
dtravel@sonic.net delivered unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.
Yes, it really was that stupid.
So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and
regular energy?
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 23:38:03 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past
regular here, the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer,
(one of your fellow Canadidians) who, in response to people
wondering why the electricity-eating nanobots on the show REVOLUTION
didn't also absorb the electricity that runs the human nervous
system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that they must
only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural
electricity'.
There are endless variations on that trope.
Like for example humans encounter some advanced alien civilization
(either we visit them, or they come to us), and they have the power to
stop all our technology (particularly advanced technology) from
working. And yet somehow living beings remain unharmed. And maybe some
old relic machine from a museum still functions -- obviously not >rCLtechnologicalrCY enough for the aliensrCO weapon to affect it ...
On 2026-02-26 6:38 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 3:08:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:I remember her but I don't think I ever saw her "novel" thoughts on electricity or the use of that as a sort of meme among the group
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels >>> conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy >>>>>> the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and >>>>> regular energy?
Yes, it really was that stupid.
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
socket is definitely artificial.
But if you examine them at the atomic level, there's no difference.
Electricity is electricity, no matter how it's generated.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past regular here, >> the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer, (one of your fellow
Canadidians) who, in response to people wondering why the electricity-eating >> nanobots on the show REVOLUTION didn't also absorb the electricity that runs >> the human nervous system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that >> they must only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural
electricity'.
Clod's insistence on this theory has become a benchmark of stupidity in this >> group and a shorthand way of indicating when someone else says something of >> equal dumbidity.
members. Well, now I know and I apologize for missing what you were
getting at and reacting pedantically.
In article <10nr1vu$268jc$4@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 23:38:03 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past
regular here, the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer,
(one of your fellow Canadidians) who, in response to people
wondering why the electricity-eating nanobots on the show REVOLUTION
didn't also absorb the electricity that runs the human nervous
system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that they must
only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural
electricity'.
There are endless variations on that trope.
Like for example humans encounter some advanced alien civilization
(either we visit them, or they come to us), and they have the power to
stop all our technology (particularly advanced technology) from
working. And yet somehow living beings remain unharmed. And maybe some
old relic machine from a museum still functions -- obviously not
rCLtechnologicalrCY enough for the aliensrCO weapon to affect it ...
Similarly, how alien computer technology can be hacked like ours.
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-02-26 6:38 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 3:08:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>I remember her but I don't think I ever saw her "novel" thoughts on
wrote:
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels >>>> conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy >>>>>>> the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible. >>>>>>>So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and >>>>>> regular energy?
Yes, it really was that stupid.
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
socket is definitely artificial.
But if you examine them at the atomic level, there's no difference.
Electricity is electricity, no matter how it's generated.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past regular here,
the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer, (one of your fellow >>> Canadidians) who, in response to people wondering why the electricity-eating
nanobots on the show REVOLUTION didn't also absorb the electricity that runs
the human nervous system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that
they must only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not
'natural
electricity'.
Clod's insistence on this theory has become a benchmark of stupidity in this
group and a shorthand way of indicating when someone else says something of
equal dumbidity.
electricity or the use of that as a sort of meme among the group
members. Well, now I know and I apologize for missing what you were
getting at and reacting pedantically.
She also insisted that moving water is always safe to drink.
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Similarly, how alien computer technology can be hacked like ours.
Only by Macs, not windows.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 03:27:38 -0700, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Similarly, how alien computer technology can be hacked like ours.
Only by Macs, not windows.
rCLThis is a Unix system! I know this!rCY
On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 21:16:43 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
<snip>
I just watched the DS9 'tribute' episode with the ridiculous hologram
character trying to solve the mystery of Sisko's disappearance. It was drek >> as
expected but what really had me lunging for the Stop button was the fact that
they not only have the Klingon character doing gay flirting with another dude
in the bar, but he's now prancing around in a skirt with all the other girls,
too.
I've generally found something to enjoy in most of the episodes, but
that one has to be the worst. My feeling was that the "what happened
to Sisko" plotline under ran so they imported Russell T Davies from
the UK to add some his author appeal stuff that worked so well in
Doctor Who.
Verily, in article <10nqd7r$2005i$2@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:
Let me know if they do a TNG tribute episode where WorfYou could make a fan video. ]:-)
shows up, takes one look at this non-binary they/them Klingon and just
beheads
him on general principal. I'll come back and watch that.
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
In article <10nr1vu$268jc$4@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 23:38:03 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past
regular here, the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer,
(one of your fellow Canadidians) who, in response to people
wondering why the electricity-eating nanobots on the show REVOLUTION
didn't also absorb the electricity that runs the human nervous
system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that they must
only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not 'natural
electricity'.
There are endless variations on that trope.
Like for example humans encounter some advanced alien civilization
(either we visit them, or they come to us), and they have the power to
stop all our technology (particularly advanced technology) from
working. And yet somehow living beings remain unharmed. And maybe some
old relic machine from a museum still functions -- obviously not
|ore4+otechnological|ore4-Y enough for the aliens|ore4rao weapon to affect it ...
Similarly, how alien computer technology can be hacked like ours.
Only by Macs, not windows.
On 2/28/2026 2:27 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Well, it only worked because Macs were reverse engineered alien
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Similarly, how alien computer technology can be hacked like ours.
Only by Macs, not windows.
computers....
On Feb 27, 2026 at 3:45:09 AM PST, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <10nqd7r$2005i$2@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:
Let me know if they do a TNG tribute episode where WorfYou could make a fan video. ]:-)
shows up, takes one look at this non-binary they/them Klingon and just
beheads
him on general principal. I'll come back and watch that.
With the new Seedance AI software, I could make one that would look absolutely
real.
I don?t know what?s more amazing - the manmade AI STAR WARS videos all over YouTube, or the fact that somehow they?re not being sued into oblivion the minute they get posted. Disney's lawyers are probably being treated for strokes and nervous breakdowns.
On Feb 28, 2026 at 2:12:54 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-02-26 6:38 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 3:08:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>I remember her but I don't think I ever saw her "novel" thoughts on
wrote:
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels >>>>> conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall >>>>> socket is definitely artificial.
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy >>>>>>>> the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible. >>>>>>>>So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and >>>>>>> regular energy?
Yes, it really was that stupid.
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
But if you examine them at the atomic level, there's no difference.
Electricity is electricity, no matter how it's generated.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past regular here,
the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer, (one of your fellow >>>> Canadidians) who, in response to people wondering why the electricity-eating
nanobots on the show REVOLUTION didn't also absorb the electricity that runs
the human nervous system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that
they must only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not
'natural
electricity'.
Clod's insistence on this theory has become a benchmark of stupidity in this
group and a shorthand way of indicating when someone else says something of
equal dumbidity.
electricity or the use of that as a sort of meme among the group
members. Well, now I know and I apologize for missing what you were
getting at and reacting pedantically.
She also insisted that moving water is always safe to drink.
And that it's impossible for anyone, even a trained and experienced soldier, to successfully use a gun in self-defense. She claimed everyone just freezes up out of fear. But that doesn't happen if you use a big dog, a knife, or a baseball bat to defend yourself. Only guns make you freeze in fear at the crucial moment.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 03:27:38 -0700, anim8rfsk wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
Similarly, how alien computer technology can be hacked like ours.
Only by Macs, not windows.
rCLThis is a Unix system! I know this!rCY
When she says that, on screen, you can actually see
the interface running QuickTime movies.
Verily, in article <179267364.794071571.311223.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:
When she says that, on screen, you can actually see
the interface running QuickTime movies.
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed. In the early days, when few people knew anything about computers, they pulled some real boners. I
recall laughter in 1995 because some show had pasted a Mac desktop onto
the screen of an IBM.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 2026 at 2:12:54 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote: >>
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-02-26 6:38 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 3:08:57 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>I remember her but I don't think I ever saw her "novel" thoughts on
wrote:
On 2026-02-26 4:11 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 6:41:31 AM PDT, "Melissa Hollingsworth"Actually, that's a real distinction if you think about it. Electric eels
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energySo there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and >>>>>>>> regular energy?
the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible. >>>>>>>>>
Yes, it really was that stupid.
Don't forget the artificial and natural electricity!
conduct electricity and it's natural; the stuff you get in your wall >>>>>> socket is definitely artificial.
But if you examine them at the atomic level, there's no difference. >>>>> Electricity is electricity, no matter how it's generated.
This is a long-running gag here on RAT in reference to a past regular here,
the profoundly stupid Cloud Dreamer, aka Clod Reamer, (one of your fellow
Canadidians) who, in response to people wondering why the electricity-eating
nanobots on the show REVOLUTION didn't also absorb the electricity that runs
the human nervous system, or the electricity in thunderstorms, declared that
they must only be programmed to consume 'artificial electricity', not >>>>> 'natural
electricity'.
Clod's insistence on this theory has become a benchmark of stupidity in this
group and a shorthand way of indicating when someone else says something of
equal dumbidity.
electricity or the use of that as a sort of meme among the group
members. Well, now I know and I apologize for missing what you were
getting at and reacting pedantically.
She also insisted that moving water is always safe to drink.
And that it's impossible for anyone, even a trained and experienced soldier,
to successfully use a gun in self-defense. She claimed everyone just freezes
up out of fear. But that doesn't happen if you use a big dog, a knife, or a >> baseball bat to defend yourself. Only guns make you freeze in fear at the >> crucial moment.
IIRC that was specific to females. No female can pull a trigger, even when
in fear for their life.
Ah, yes. I remember how she was completely enraged when I told I have a sister
who is alive today because she defended herself with a gun when she was attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear for even a moment.
On Mar 1, 2026 at 7:42:33 AM PST, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <179267364.794071571.311223.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:
When she says that, on screen, you can actually see
the interface running QuickTime movies.
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed. In the early days, when few people knew anything about computers, they pulled some real boners. I recall laughter in 1995 because some show had pasted a Mac desktop onto the screen of an IBM.
I've always laughed at Hollywood's obsession with inserting bleeps and bloops into every scene where someone's working on a computer to let us know the computer is "thinking".
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed.
... I have a sister who is alive today because she defended herself
with a gun when she was attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear
for even a moment.
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 10:42:33 -0500, The True Melissa wrote:
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed.
Compositing was required, not so much because of glare I donrCOt think,
but because of a mismatch of frame rates that would lead to unpleasant
and distracting flicker.
I look at modern TV news studios, with back walls covered with huge LCD panels showing remote interviewees and correspondents, location
footage, weather pictures etc, and theyrCOre all captured by the studio cameras just fine (with all frame rates locked together, of course),
with no discernible glare at all.
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 19:52:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
... I have a sister who is alive today because she defended herself
with a gun when she was attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear
for even a moment.
That kind of thing is very rarely successful. Outside of a war zone,
the vast majority of deployment of guns tend to end badly.
In other words, for every one person like your sister, there are
something like 30 dead bodies of those for whom things didn'COt turn
out quite so well ...
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 10:42:33 -0500, The True Melissa wrote:
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed.
Compositing was required, not so much because of glare I don?t think,
but because of a mismatch of frame rates that would lead to unpleasant
and distracting flicker.
I look at modern TV news studios, with back walls covered with huge
LCD panels showing remote interviewees and correspondents, location
footage, weather pictures etc, and they?re all captured by the studio
cameras just fine (with all frame rates locked together, of course),
with no discernible glare at all.
Verily, in article <10o25bg$h5u2$1@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:
On Mar 1, 2026 at 7:42:33 AM PST, "The True Melissa"
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <179267364.794071571.311223.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >> > message:
When she says that, on screen, you can actually see
the interface running QuickTime movies.
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed. In the early days, when few >> > people knew anything about computers, they pulled some real boners. I
recall laughter in 1995 because some show had pasted a Mac desktop onto >> > the screen of an IBM.
I've always laughed at Hollywood's obsession with inserting bleeps and
bloops
into every scene where someone's working on a computer to let us know the >> computer is "thinking".
One of my favorite things is the way that TV and movie pictures have infinite resolution. "Zoom and enhance. Again. Again, again, again."
Then, instead of a realistic blur, we somehow read the writing on a
scrap of paper. Computers are magic!
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 19:52:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
... I have a sister who is alive today because she defended herself
with a gun when she was attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear
for even a moment.
That kind of thing is very rarely successful. Outside of a war zone,
the vast majority of deployment of guns tend to end badly.
In other words, for every one person like your sister, there are
something like 30 dead bodies of those for whom things didnrCOt turn out quite so well ...
Verily, in article <10o25e4$h5u2$2@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:
Ah, yes. I remember how she was completely enraged when I told her I have a >> sisterYour sister rocks.
who is alive today because she defended herself with a gun when she was
attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear for even a moment.
Even the rabidly anti-gun organization "Everytown for Gun Safety"
had to admit in 2025, after analyzing the 2019rCo2023 NCVS data, that
there are at least 70,000 legitimate DGUs annually.
On 2026-03-01 21:57:23 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 19:52:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
... I have a sister who is alive today because she defended herself
with a gun when she was attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear
for even a moment.
That kind of thing is very rarely successful. Outside of a war zone,
the vast majority of deployment of guns tend to end badly.
In other words, for every one person like your sister, there are
something like 30 dead bodies of those for whom things didnrCOt turn out
quite so well ...
And probably at least another 30 where someone was killed without
being anywhere near such a situation where a gun could supposedly be
needed (e.g. kids playing with a gun).
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 22:33:54 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
Even the rabidly anti-gun organization "Everytown for Gun Safety"
had to admit in 2025, after analyzing the 2019rCo2023 NCVS data, that
there are at least 70,000 legitimate DGUs annually.
I wonder where you get that figure from? This page of gun-violence
deaths <https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls> shows only
1,164 instances of rCLDefensive UserCY in 2025 -- only about 3% of gun-violence deaths, which is consistent with the oft-quoted 30:1
ratio.
The figures also show that two-thirds of all gun-violence deaths in
the USA that year were suicides.
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:04:44 +1300, Your Name wrote:
On 2026-03-01 21:57:23 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 19:52:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:
... I have a sister who is alive today because she defended herself
with a gun when she was attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear
for even a moment.
That kind of thing is very rarely successful. Outside of a war zone,
the vast majority of deployment of guns tend to end badly.
In other words, for every one person like your sister, there are
something like 30 dead bodies of those for whom things didnrCOt turn out >>> quite so well ...
And probably at least another 30 where someone was killed without
being anywhere near such a situation where a gun could supposedly be
needed (e.g. kids playing with a gun).
The number-one cause of death among children in the USA is now gunshot wounds.
Detroit's gun homicide rate is far, far higher than the homicide
rate in rural Michigan despite the same gun laws applying to both
places.
On Mar 1, 2026 at 7:42:33 AM PST, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <179267364.794071571.311223.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
message:
When she says that, on screen, you can actually see
the interface running QuickTime movies.
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed. In the early days, when few
people knew anything about computers, they pulled some real boners. I
recall laughter in 1995 because some show had pasted a Mac desktop onto
the screen of an IBM.
I've always laughed at Hollywood's obsession with inserting bleeps and bloops into every scene where someone's working on a computer to let us know the computer is "thinking".
On Mar 1, 2026 at 1:23:35 PM PST, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <10o25bg$h5u2$1@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com
deliver unto us this message:
On Mar 1, 2026 at 7:42:33 AM PST, "The True Melissa"
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <179267364.794071571.311223.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>> message:
When she says that, on screen, you can actually see
the interface running QuickTime movies.
I've read that the screen contents have to be pasted in later, since
glare would prevent them from being filmed. In the early days, when few >>>> people knew anything about computers, they pulled some real boners. I >>>> recall laughter in 1995 because some show had pasted a Mac desktop onto >>>> the screen of an IBM.
I've always laughed at Hollywood's obsession with inserting bleeps and
bloops
into every scene where someone's working on a computer to let us know the >>> computer is "thinking".
One of my favorite things is the way that TV and movie pictures have
infinite resolution. "Zoom and enhance. Again. Again, again, again."
Then, instead of a realistic blur, we somehow read the writing on a
scrap of paper. Computers are magic!
There was a CSI:HORATIO episode where they managed to read a license plate in the reflection of someone's eyeball off a security cam tape.
The CSI shows are an example of how TV nonsense has a negative influence in the real world. When they were at their height of popularity, real-world juries expected the government to have all those gee-whiz super-duper techniques and equipment to find evidence. They had ridiculous expectations of
the abilities of the police because Hollywood made up nonsense and put it on a
TV show. It was difficult to convince juries that no, it's not really possible
to take video from a low-rez VHS convenience store security tape, blow it up 1000x, and get a reflection of the perp's license plate off the retina of a bum sitting at a bus stop across the street.
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