• What The Hell is This Mess? Star Trek: Starfleet Academy

    From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sun Jul 27 23:13:01 2025
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    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2
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  • From PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com@PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Jul 29 11:29:16 2025
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    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

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  • From George McConnell@info@zbmed.de to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Jul 30 04:36:26 2025
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    PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com wrote:
    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    The Jem'Hadar are a genetically engineered clone race of super
    soldiers. There are no female Jem'Hadar because they are not needed.
    They reproduce via cloning. They have only one interest: fighting.
    They don't eat, sleep, sit down, have any hobbies. They are loyal to
    the Founders. A female Jem'Hadar even existing in this show is proof
    the people in charge don't give a damn about the show's legacy, history
    or even its canon and are just doing whatever the hell they want to do
    with it.

    Best option for Star Trek is to fire Kurtzman and say that only Star
    Trek Picard season 3 is canon, everything else was some alternate
    universe shit outside of the prime timeline and should be ignored.

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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv on Wed Jul 30 19:10:35 2025
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    On Jul 29, 2025 at 2:29:16 AM PDT, "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:

    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers presented with masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but they were neither male nor female.

    So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right back atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never watched DS9.


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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Jul 30 14:04:11 2025
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    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 29, 2025 at 2:29:16 AM PDT, "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:

    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers presented with
    masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but they were neither male nor female.

    So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right back atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never watched DS9.

    Two words: frog DNA.

    OK, one word and one initialism, but you get my drift
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Jul 31 09:49:26 2025
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    On 2025-07-30 21:04:11 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jul 29, 2025 at 2:29:16 AM PDT, "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com"
    <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:

    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce
    sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers
    presented with masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but
    they were neither male nor female.

    So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right back >> atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    Two words: frog DNA.

    OK, one word and one initialism, but you get my drift

    There is an *unofficial* fan story "Star Trek: Conflict" which does
    include the Jem'Hadar's first female, created by a genetic mutation
    before fertilization due to being infected with human DNA.

    Jek'Kralija is the first Jem'Hadar female.
    <https://memory-gamma.fandom.com/wiki/Jek%27Kralija>

    Star Trek: Conflict
    <https://memory-gamma.fandom.com/wiki/Story:Star_Trek:_Conflict>


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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Jul 30 19:51:21 2025
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    PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com wrote:
    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Jul 31 13:12:11 2025
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    In article <106e416$3eg66$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
    On 2025-07-30 21:04:11 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:
    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce >>> sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers
    presented with masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but
    they were neither male nor female.

    So to both you and the writers of this mess of a STAR TREK show, right
    back atcha: Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've >>> never watched DS9.

    Two words: frog DNA.

    OK, one word and one initialism, but you get my drift

    There is an *unofficial* fan story "Star Trek: Conflict" which does
    include the Jem'Hadar's first female, created by a genetic mutation
    before fertilization due to being infected with human DNA.

    Ugh, fan fiction.

    Jek'Kralija is the first Jem'Hadar female.
    <https://memory-gamma.fandom.com/wiki/Jek%27Kralija>

    Kralija's birth came about because a hatching pod of several
    Jem'Hadar was infected by humanoid DNA.

    Holy butake, Batman!

    A group of Jem'Hadar who escaped the Dominion's rule because
    of the appearance of "conscientious behavior"

    Tell me you've never watched Star Trek without saying you nevber watched it.

    Jek does not possess mammary glands. Since Jem'Hadar are grown in
    eggs, she lays eggs (at will, and not on any cycle).

    No, they're grown in birthing vats and they're not reptilian.

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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 4 04:30:51 2025
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    In article <106dqnb$3bqlp$4@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com" <PoinsettDaliana96@outlook.com> wrote:
    weberm@polaris.net wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xCxJroHiwvU?si=HhJLFQJmjqMHBUJ2

    Female Jem'Hadar.

    Tell me you've never watched DS9 without telling me you've never
    watched DS9.

    The Jem'Hadar had no females. Or even males, since they didn't reproduce >sexually. They were grown in vats by the Founders. The soldiers presented >with masculine traits like strength and aggressiveness, but they were >neither male nor female.

    I posted something about the actress playing the fat female Jem'Hader
    you might find surprising but probably won't.

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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Aug 9 15:37:04 2025
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    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.
    --
    s|b
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Aug 9 11:25:31 2025
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    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.
    --
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    love this country.

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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Aug 9 09:06:23 2025
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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd
    --
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Aug 9 09:14:45 2025
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    Verily, in article <r5qdneVXIqD29Qr1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>, did weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    Perhaps they've cured it in the future. Either that or there are
    Starfleet fitness requirements and we're just not seeing them.
    --
    Saturday Doctor Who watch party 1:00 p.m. Pacific time

    This week: "The Ambassadors of Death" [Third Doctor] https://discord.gg/p3ujkCa4?event=1401613673331425291
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 9 16:56:52 2025
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    On Aug 9, 2025 at 8:25:31 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    Sedentary. Sedimentary would mean they accumulate layers of sediment over centuries.


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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Aug 9 11:04:52 2025
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    On 8/9/2025 9:14 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <r5qdneVXIqD29Qr1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>, did weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    Perhaps they've cured it in the future. Either that or there are
    Starfleet fitness requirements and we're just not seeing them.

    Original flavor Trek had a scene in one episode where McCoy was giving
    Kirk a physical that involved enough exertion to raise a sweat.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv on Sat Aug 9 11:05:32 2025
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    On 8/9/2025 9:56 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Aug 9, 2025 at 8:25:31 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    Sedentary. Sedimentary would mean they accumulate layers of sediment over centuries.

    You haven't seen some of the suspects and defendants I have....
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sat Aug 9 11:43:07 2025
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    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 8/9/2025 9:14 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <r5qdneVXIqD29Qr1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>, did
    weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    Perhaps they've cured it in the future. Either that or there are
    Starfleet fitness requirements and we're just not seeing them.

    Original flavor Trek had a scene in one episode where McCoy was giving
    Kirk a physical that involved enough exertion to raise a sweat.


    And then made him eat a dietary salad because his weight was up a couple of pounds.

    The Corbomite Maneuver
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  • From NoBody@NoBody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sun Aug 10 11:04:35 2025
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    On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 15:37:04 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    IKR?

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    It's a body positive Jem`Hadar.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sun Aug 10 20:29:59 2025
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    On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    The replicator provides low calories?
    --
    s|b
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sun Aug 10 16:42:22 2025
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    On 8/10/2025 11:29 AM, s|b wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    The replicator provides low calories?

    "Transporter Diet". ;)
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Aug 11 04:30:44 2025
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    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 19:51:21 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    It gets even worse. She's a Jem'Hadar and Klingon hybrid.
    A FAT one.

    There's no Ozempic in the ST continuum.

    But there are exercise and diets.

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd

    So was the trader of Tribbles.

    I was thinking of crew members.

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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Aug 11 04:30:45 2025
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    In article <mfs6p6Freo3U3@mid.individual.net>, me@privacy.invalid wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering
    their sedementary lifestyle.

    The replicator provides low calories?

    Holodeck food?


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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Aug 11 05:14:22 2025
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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <mfs6p6Freo3U3@mid.individual.net>, me@privacy.invalid wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering >>> their sedementary lifestyle.

    The replicator provides low calories?

    Holodeck food?

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you should just die when you walked outside.
    --
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Aug 11 06:53:03 2025
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    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <mfs6p6Freo3U3@mid.individual.net>, me@privacy.invalid wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering >>> their sedementary lifestyle.

    The replicator provides low calories?

    Holodeck food?

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?

    That implies... hmm, I think it implies that the crew are being
    converted to virtual avatars when they enter the holodeck. Perhaps it
    also works the other way, which is how the holodeck creations can
    occasionally escape and materialize.

    Sounds crazy, but is it that far removed from transporter technology?
    That also converts matter into a virtual representation and back again.
    --
    Saturday Doctor Who watch party 1:00 p.m. Pacific time

    This week: "Inferno" [Third Doctor] https://discord.gg/p3ujkCa4?event=1403862135594811423
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Aug 11 15:12:36 2025
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    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <mfs6p6Freo3U3@mid.individual.net>, me@privacy.invalid wrote: >>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 11:25:31 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

    Actually, I always wondered why no one is fat in Star Trek, considering >>>>> their sedementary lifestyle.

    The replicator provides low calories?

    Holodeck food?

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live >> indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it >> went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Then they had an episode where they were running out of food, but it didnrCOt occur to anybody to just go into the Irish pub holodeck program and eat and drink all you want.

    Then they had their idiot chef Neelix take a shuttle down to every planet
    they stopped at to forage for fresh vegetables because the replicators werenrCOt capable of making crisp celery. With a problem like that, I would also assume that the transporter would make their teeth the consistency of pudding.



    That implies... hmm, I think it implies that the crew are being
    converted to virtual avatars when they enter the holodeck. Perhaps it
    also works the other way, which is how the holodeck creations can occasionally escape and materialize.

    Sounds crazy, but is it that far removed from transporter technology?
    That also converts matter into a virtual representation and back again.


    On Voyager if you force quit a program with people in there, it kills them
    --
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Aug 11 16:08:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it >> went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you >> should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without
    food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,
    four days without water, forty days without food."

    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came
    out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.

    Then they had an episode where they were running out of food, but it
    didn?t
    occur to anybody to just go into the Irish pub holodeck program and eat and drink all you want.

    ...but then there's that.

    Perhaps time moves differently on the holodeck? Do we know for sure that
    the people inside for weeks were gone from the outside for weeks?
    --
    Saturday Doctor Who watch party 1:00 p.m. Pacific time

    This week: "Inferno" [Third Doctor] https://discord.gg/p3ujkCa4?event=1403862135594811423
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Aug 11 22:11:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
    message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it >>>> went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you >>>> should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that >> it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,
    four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably arenrCOt having real water either. They are
    living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came
    out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they donrCOt use it when theyrCOre having problems with the food supply outside the holo deck


    Then they had an episode where they were running out of food, but it
    didn?t
    occur to anybody to just go into the Irish pub holodeck program and eat and >> drink all you want.

    ...but then there's that.

    Perhaps time moves differently on the holodeck? Do we know for sure that
    the people inside for weeks were gone from the outside for weeks?



    Yes
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Aug 12 09:28:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,
    four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
    living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
    but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.
    --
    Saturday Doctor Who watch party 1:00 p.m. Pacific time

    This week: "Inferno" [Third Doctor] https://discord.gg/p3ujkCa4?event=1403862135594811423
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Aug 12 09:55:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Verily, in article <MPG.43050ba5768f1a8d9897d7@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
    but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.

    No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
    light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending
    a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.
    --
    Saturday Doctor Who watch party 1:00 p.m. Pacific time

    This week: "Inferno" [Third Doctor] https://discord.gg/p3ujkCa4?event=1403862135594811423
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Aug 12 12:13:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
    message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air,
    four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
    living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came
    out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply >> outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
    but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.


    All the food replicators need is power. They donrCOt rearrange molecules.
    They just use power to make something out of nothing.

    However, the food replicators use a different kind of power than anything
    else uses. The holodecks run on a different kind of power than the food replicators do. They canrCOt make real food.

    IrCOm not sure how many different kinds of power Voyager requires, but they very definitely established that food replicator power is different than anything else on the ship.

    IrCOm also not sure if nonfood replicators use the same power as food replicators.
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Aug 12 12:13:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.43050ba5768f1a8d9897d7@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
    message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on
    imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>> four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
    living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply >>> outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
    but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.

    No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
    light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending
    a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.


    If only the voyager rCLwritersrCY had put this much effort into the show.
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv on Tue Aug 12 19:39:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    On Aug 12, 2025 at 12:13:13 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
    message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>> four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
    living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
    outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
    but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.


    All the food replicators need is power. They donrCOt rearrange molecules. They just use power to make something out of nothing.

    However, the food replicators use a different kind of power than anything else uses. The holodecks run on a different kind of power than the food replicators do. They canrCOt make real food.

    IrCOm not sure how many different kinds of power Voyager requires, but they very definitely established that food replicator power is different than anything else on the ship.

    Food replicator power is artificial. The rest of the ship runs on natural power.


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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Aug 12 13:53:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Verily, in article <1827605190.776718401.734510.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:


    All the food replicators need is power. They don?t rearrange molecules.
    They just use power to make something out of nothing.

    Well, that's certainly insane. The amount of energy needed to
    materialize even a piece of toast... yeesh. They're probably using more
    energy on each evening's dinner than on warping around the galaxy.
    --
    Saturday Doctor Who watch party 1:00 p.m. Pacific time

    This week: "Inferno" [Third Doctor] https://discord.gg/p3ujkCa4?event=1403862135594811423
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Tue Aug 12 17:18:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Aug 12, 2025 at 12:13:13 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
    message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
    living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
    outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability, >>> but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.


    All the food replicators need is power. They donrCOt rearrange molecules.
    They just use power to make something out of nothing.

    However, the food replicators use a different kind of power than anything
    else uses. The holodecks run on a different kind of power than the food
    replicators do. They canrCOt make real food.

    IrCOm not sure how many different kinds of power Voyager requires, but they >> very definitely established that food replicator power is different than
    anything else on the ship.

    Food replicator power is artificial. The rest of the ship runs on natural power.

    Well, that explains why the water is always fresh
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Aug 12 17:18:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1827605190.776718401.734510.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:


    All the food replicators need is power. They don?t rearrange molecules.
    They just use power to make something out of nothing.

    Well, that's certainly insane. The amount of energy needed to
    materialize even a piece of toast... yeesh. They're probably using more energy on each evening's dinner than on warping around the galaxy.


    Agreed, although since food replicator power isnrCOt good for any other use, why not.

    Of course, that big question where does food replicator power come from in
    the first place? Do they somehow harvest it from sunlight and then itrCOs
    good for making toast but not for any other reason?
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Tue Aug 12 19:50:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    On 8/12/2025 12:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.43050ba5768f1a8d9897d7@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
    message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are
    living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
    outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability,
    but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.

    No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
    light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without
    consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending
    a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.


    If only the voyager rCLwritersrCY had put this much effort into the show.

    As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
    the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.

    Yes, it really was that stupid.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Aug 13 03:50:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 8/12/2025 12:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.43050ba5768f1a8d9897d7@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>>>> message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without >>>>>> food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are >>>>> living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
    outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability, >>>> but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.

    No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
    light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without
    consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending
    a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.


    If only the voyager rCLwritersrCY had put this much effort into the show.

    As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
    the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.

    Yes, it really was that stupid.


    I think that qualifies me for Holodeck ice cream.

    Judges?
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Aug 13 07:22:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    On 8/13/2025 3:50 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 8/12/2025 12:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <MPG.43050ba5768f1a8d9897d7@news.eternal-
    september.org>, did thetruemelissa@gmail.com deliver unto us this
    message:

    Verily, in article <165840835.776667635.718336.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <392916302.776642579.774871.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this >>>>>>> message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <635212760.776606512.130859.anim8rfsk-
    cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
    message:

    VOYAGER never did get that right. They had a holo deck where you could live
    indefinitely on imaginary food and drink, and yet they established that it
    went away when you exited. So if you were in the holo deck very long, you
    should just die when you walked outside.

    So... you could stay in the holodeck for a year and just live on >>>>>>>>> imaginary food? Did something like this actually happen?


    Not a year, but probably weeks and certainly several days, long enough that
    it would kill you.

    Several days wouldn't kill you. People can live at least a month without
    food, on average. The old rule I recall is "four minutes without air, >>>>>>> four days without water, forty days without food."


    Good point. They presumably aren?t having real water either. They are >>>>>> living off of imaginary beer and pub food made of hard light.


    Several weeks might. At the least, you'd show some signs when you came >>>>>>> out. If not, the holofood must be providing real nourishment.


    And yet they don?t use it when they?re having problems with the food supply
    outside the holo deck

    Maybe it's real food. The holodeck could have food replication ability, >>>>> but it would need the same supplies as other replicators.

    No, wait, I've got it. It's a configurable option. You can have hard
    light food when you want to pig out on steak and chocolate without
    consequences, but have real food when you and your friends are spending >>>> a whole weekend climbing a fake mountain.


    If only the voyager rCLwritersrCY had put this much effort into the show. >>>
    As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
    the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.

    Yes, it really was that stupid.


    I think that qualifies me for Holodeck ice cream.

    Judges?

    I'd pay but my holodeck will only supply peanut butter ice cream.
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    dirty old man.
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Aug 13 07:41:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.current

    Verily, in article <107guh6$3lpf9$1@dont-email.me>, did
    dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
    As I recall "Holodeck energy" was different than all the other energy
    the ship used, so replicators in the holodeck weren't possible.

    Yes, it really was that stupid.


    So there's holodeck energy, food replicator energy, warp energy, and
    regular energy?

    No wonder we in the 21st century don't have manned luxury space flight.
    We still think all energy's fundamentally the same.
    --
    Saturday Doctor Who watch party 1:00 p.m. Pacific time

    This week: "Inferno" [Third Doctor] https://discord.gg/p3ujkCa4?event=1403862135594811423
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