• (ReacTor) Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Jul 31 14:20:25 2025
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    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Jul 31 18:41:20 2025
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    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/

    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an estate
    of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going to mention? I really have no idea.

    William Hyde
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Jul 31 18:54:07 2025
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    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an estate
    of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar.

    It was bad news for photographers.

    Sadly, in the process we lost a lot of high-silver content products, like Kodabromide paper which was discontinued when the silver prices went through the roof. And Tri-X got reformulated and has never been the same since. --scott
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Jul 31 19:02:34 2025
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    Scott Dorsey wrote:
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an estate
    of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar.

    It was bad news for photographers.

    Sadly, in the process we lost a lot of high-silver content products, like Kodabromide paper which was discontinued when the silver prices went through the roof. And Tri-X got reformulated and has never been the same since.

    I was unaware of this. If only the expense would stop people from
    giving themselves Argyria.

    Also sadly, a lot of small investors got crushed when prices fell back.
    This is the sort of thing where knowledge not easily or sometimes even
    at all available to the small investor is crucial. "The trend is your
    friend" - until it's your enemy.

    Neither I nor anyone I know was investing in metals at this time. I have always assumed that I am too ignorant of the market forces involved.

    William Hyde
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  • From Chris Thompson@the_thompsons@earthlink.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Jul 31 20:37:25 2025
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    Scott Dorsey wrote:
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an estate
    of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar.

    It was bad news for photographers.

    Sadly, in the process we lost a lot of high-silver content products, like Kodabromide paper which was discontinued when the silver prices went through the roof. And Tri-X got reformulated and has never been the same since. --scott


    We also lost millions of silver coins. Certainly the ones left are worth
    more, but all those coins in mint or near-mint condition getting melted
    down is a tad upsetting to those who appreciate the art of that sort of
    thing.

    Chris

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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 1 01:54:54 2025
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    In article <106h287$3smh$1@dont-email.me>,
    Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how >>> some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an estate
    of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar.

    It was bad news for photographers.

    Sadly, in the process we lost a lot of high-silver content products, like
    Kodabromide paper which was discontinued when the silver prices went through >> the roof. And Tri-X got reformulated and has never been the same since.
    --scott


    We also lost millions of silver coins. Certainly the ones left are worth >more, but all those coins in mint or near-mint condition getting melted
    down is a tad upsetting to those who appreciate the art of that sort of >thing.

    Chris


    I understand the pizza is decent though.
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Jul 31 23:37:49 2025
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    On 7/31/2025 9:20 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/

    None. You even managed to find an Andre Norton book that I never heard of.

    Lynn

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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Jul 31 23:39:49 2025
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    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/

    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not.-a It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an estate
    of barely a hundred million.-a Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going-a to mention?-a I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Lynn

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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 1 15:48:21 2025
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    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/

    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not.-a It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an
    estate of barely a hundred million.-a Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar. >>
    Now which book is Lynn going-a to mention?-a I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one! Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 1 15:55:05 2025
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    On 8/1/2025 2:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/

    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how >>> some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not.-a It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune,
    even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an
    estate of barely a hundred million.-a Probably had to eat Canadian
    Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going-a to mention?-a I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one!-a Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde

    Maybe "Tunnel In The Sky" by Robert Heinlein.

    BTW, did Robert Heinlein invent the Stargate concept ?

    Lynn

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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 1 18:32:51 2025
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    On Aug 1, 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <106j9ja$kpvh$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 8/1/2025 2:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/
    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune, even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an
    estate of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going to mention? I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one! Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde

    Maybe "Tunnel In The Sky" by Robert Heinlein.

    BTW, did Robert Heinlein invent the Stargate concept ?

    Lynn

    EE Smith had interspatial tubes or some such name; they were useful for, oh delivering loose planets and planetary-sized negaspheres into hostile star systems. Unless that star system had a sunbeam...

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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 1 22:44:21 2025
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    In article <0001HW.2E3D7813008E07FA70000961638F@news.supernews.com>,
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Aug 1, 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <106j9ja$kpvh$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 8/1/2025 2:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/
    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about. >> > > >
    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune, >> > > > even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed >> > > > them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an
    estate of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian
    Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going to mention? I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one! Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde

    Maybe "Tunnel In The Sky" by Robert Heinlein.

    BTW, did Robert Heinlein invent the Stargate concept ?

    Lynn

    EE Smith had interspatial tubes or some such name; they were useful for, oh >delivering loose planets and planetary-sized negaspheres into hostile star >systems. Unless that star system had a sunbeam...


    Did any Planetary Romances use stargates? I know John Carter did some sort
    of poorly explained astral projection, and I believe Kline's Mars hero got there by telepathic body switch. Possibly Esau Cairn in Howard's Almuric, though I think we were given exactly no information on how the astronomer
    does the deed.
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  • From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 1 23:26:51 2025
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    In article <mf4ua5FbemU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <0001HW.2E3D7813008E07FA70000961638F@news.supernews.com>,
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Aug 1, 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <106j9ja$kpvh$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 8/1/2025 2:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/ >>> > > > Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately
    wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about. >>> > > >
    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune, >>> > > > even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed >>> > > > them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an
    estate of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian
    Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going to mention? I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one! Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde

    Maybe "Tunnel In The Sky" by Robert Heinlein.

    BTW, did Robert Heinlein invent the Stargate concept ?

    Lynn

    EE Smith had interspatial tubes or some such name; they were useful for, oh >>delivering loose planets and planetary-sized negaspheres into hostile star >>systems. Unless that star system had a sunbeam...


    Did any Planetary Romances use stargates? I know John Carter did some sort >of poorly explained astral projection, and I believe Kline's Mars hero got >there by telepathic body switch. Possibly Esau Cairn in Howard's Almuric, >though I think we were given exactly no information on how the astronomer >does the deed.

    Van vogt had a WII German scientist futzing with long range gates,
    not necessarily to the benefit of the Nazis. Secret Unattainable,
    1942.

    Kuttner or Kuttner & Moore had starships outmoded by teleportation in
    1947's The Big Night.
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  • From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 1 23:50:24 2025
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    In article <106jifr$aci$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <mf4ua5FbemU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <0001HW.2E3D7813008E07FA70000961638F@news.supernews.com>, >>WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Aug 1, 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <106j9ja$kpvh$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 8/1/2025 2:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/ >>>> > > > Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately >>wondered how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about. >>>> > > >
    Or not. It's great fun watching billionaires squander their fortune, >>>> > > > even though legal carve outs not available to the common folk allowed
    them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they each left an >>>> > > > estate of barely a hundred million. Probably had to eat Canadian >>>> > > > Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going to mention? I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one! Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde

    Maybe "Tunnel In The Sky" by Robert Heinlein.

    BTW, did Robert Heinlein invent the Stargate concept ?

    Lynn

    EE Smith had interspatial tubes or some such name; they were useful for, oh >>>delivering loose planets and planetary-sized negaspheres into hostile star >>>systems. Unless that star system had a sunbeam...


    Did any Planetary Romances use stargates? I know John Carter did some sort >>of poorly explained astral projection, and I believe Kline's Mars hero got >>there by telepathic body switch. Possibly Esau Cairn in Howard's Almuric, >>though I think we were given exactly no information on how the astronomer >>does the deed.

    Van vogt had a WII German scientist futzing with long range gates,
    not necessarily to the benefit of the Nazis. Secret Unattainable,
    1942.

    Kuttner or Kuttner & Moore had starships outmoded by teleportation in
    1947's The Big Night.

    What are stargates, if not fairie circles preservering?
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Aug 3 13:43:50 2025
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    On 8/1/2025 4:55 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 8/1/2025 2:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/

    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered
    how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about.

    Or not.-a It's great fun watching billionaires squander their
    fortune, even though legal carve outs not available to the common
    folk allowed them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they
    each left an estate of barely a hundred million.-a Probably had to
    eat Canadian Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going-a to mention?-a I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one!-a Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde

    Maybe "Tunnel In The Sky" by Robert Heinlein.

    BTW, did Robert Heinlein invent the Stargate concept ?

    Tunnel in the Sky certainly fits.
    So does "Lord of the Flies"

    pt
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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Aug 3 17:57:42 2025
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    In article <106o74m$1npl8$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/1/2025 4:55 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 8/1/2025 2:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/31/2025 5:41 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five Books About Sending the Kids to Camp

    ...or at least, sending them away. Sometimes for good.

    https://reactormag.com/five-books-about-sending-the-kids-to-camp/

    Of course, when you said the "Hunt Brothers", I immediately wondered >>>>> how
    some kids could corner the silver market.

    Something the actual Hunt brothers should have thought harder about. >>>>>
    Or not.-a It's great fun watching billionaires squander their
    fortune, even though legal carve outs not available to the common
    folk allowed them to remain rich. Poor rich though, I think they
    each left an estate of barely a hundred million.-a Probably had to
    eat Canadian Caviar.

    Now which book is Lynn going-a to mention?-a I really have no idea.

    William Hyde

    I ain't got nothing.

    Good one!-a Caught me in my own web.

    William Hyde

    Maybe "Tunnel In The Sky" by Robert Heinlein.

    BTW, did Robert Heinlein invent the Stargate concept ?

    Tunnel in the Sky certainly fits.
    So does "Lord of the Flies"

    pt

    Hello Muttah, I can't stannit,
    Here I am at camp Test Planet!
    The Ramsbotham faces closure,
    And I just heard another stobor..
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