• Re: [OT] CBS Makes a Big Beautiful Change to its Late Night Schedule

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jul 25 16:56:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.

    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
    person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
    letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with
    the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jul 25 18:56:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written



    On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.

    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
    person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
    letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with
    the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?

    Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
    by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
    to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a
    severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
    be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    bliss
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Sat Jul 26 09:07:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.

    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
    person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
    letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with
    the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?

    Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
    by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
    to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a >severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
    be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.
    You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts
    the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.
    If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have cancelled the show -- immediately.
    Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled
    in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
    _Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
    at that time President of the USA.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sat Jul 26 15:02:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:



    On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce.

    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
    person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is >>>> letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with
    the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?

    Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
    by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
    to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a
    severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
    be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >> South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts
    the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.

    It does not.

    If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have cancelled the show -- immediately.

    If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is
    very pleased.

    Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled
    in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting _Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
    at that time President of the USA.

    Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
    paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.

    William Hyde

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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jul 27 08:14:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 15:02:02 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:



    On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce. >>>>>
    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that >>>>> person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is >>>>> letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with
    the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?

    Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
    by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
    to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a
    severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
    be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >>> South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts
    the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.

    It does not.

    If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have
    cancelled the show -- immediately.

    If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is >very pleased.

    Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled
    in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
    _Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
    at that time President of the USA.

    Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
    paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.
    You are not considering an alternative scenario:
    1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
    2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
    3. They de-cancel Colbert.
    And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.
    Thiis "bribe" meme is a product of left wing-nuttery. Or lefty
    hysteria, take your pick.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jul 27 09:02:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written



    On 7/27/25 08:14, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 15:02:02 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:



    On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce. >>>>>>
    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that >>>>>> person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is >>>>>> letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with >>>>> the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?

    Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
    by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
    to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a >>>> severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will >>>> be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >>>> South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts
    the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.

    It does not.

    If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have
    cancelled the show -- immediately.

    If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is
    very pleased.

    Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled
    in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
    _Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
    at that time President of the USA.

    Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
    paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.

    You are not considering an alternative scenario:

    1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
    2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
    3. They de-cancel Colbert.

    And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.

    Thiis "bribe" meme is a product of left wing-nuttery. Or lefty
    hysteria, take your pick.


    No it is the $16 Million dollars paid to Trump to settle a lawsuit which was in their own words without Merit for what DJT considered
    partisan editing of the Kamala Harris interview on 60 Minutes which
    by the way Colbert considered a bribe and which he used on his
    show.
    Giving Colbert a possilbe termination notice was just the
    whipped cream and cherry on top of the scoop of money.

    But that is my opinion.

    bliss

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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jul 27 15:27:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 15:02:02 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:



    On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce. >>>>>>
    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that >>>>>> person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is >>>>>> letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with >>>>> the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?

    Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
    by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration
    to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a >>>> severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will >>>> be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the >>>> South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts
    the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.

    It does not.

    If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have
    cancelled the show -- immediately.

    If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is
    very pleased.

    Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled
    in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
    _Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
    at that time President of the USA.

    Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
    paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.

    You are not considering an alternative scenario:

    1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
    2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
    3. They de-cancel Colbert.

    And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.

    Bribes are, in fact, sometimes reversed or simply not paid. Depends if
    the briber has the power to avoid blowback.

    William Hyde


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jul 27 18:44:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    You are not considering an alternative scenario:

    1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
    2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
    3. They de-cancel Colbert.

    It is entirely possible that this is what CBS planned to do. And it's likely why the FCC is appointing a politically-appointed "ombudsman" to the staff
    of CBS/Paramount, to prevent this.

    I do think the CBS/Paramount merger is a bad idea and probably shouldn't be allowed, but that's another story.

    And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.

    Just because the action can be reversed doesn't mean it's not a bribe. It
    just means it's not as good a bribe as it could be. But Brendan Carr is
    going to make sure it's the best bribe he can make it.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jul 28 13:59:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:
    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 15:02:02 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:56:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:



    On 7/25/25 16:56, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:36:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    The Gutfeld show is much more watched and less expensive to produce. >>>>>>>
    I really don't give a damn about your favorite show. I doubt that
    person has
    a West Coast outlet.
    Colbert is in his last year and took the May ending to heart and is
    letting loose
    on the Network, the owning company and other involved parties.

    Contracts start and contracts end. Except for the ones that end with >>>>>> the host's death (few - mercifully) they ALL end eventually.

    \Why is this news?

    Because CBS is ownned by Paramount which wants to be bought
    by a company called Skydance and needs the Trump's mal-administration >>>>> to approve of the sale so the thought is that getting rid of Colbert, a >>>>> severe critic of the Trump, was thought to help with that approval.

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will >>>>> be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the
    South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    You do realize that letting the contract run to conclusion contradicts >>>> the idea that they are "bribing" the Orange Taco.

    It does not.

    If they were actually doing this to please The Donald, they would have >>>> cancelled the show -- immediately.

    If the aim was to please him, it seems to have been done. He says he is >>> very pleased.

    Kind of like a certain TV show in the late 60s ... which was cancelled >>>> in the middle of the show (the broadcast was cut off) for adapting
    _Marat/Sade_ (or at least the title) and applied it to Tricky Dicky,
    at that time President of the USA.

    Colbert has a better contract. If they cut the show at the cost of
    paying him millions, the bribe would be too obvious.

    You are not considering an alternative scenario:

    1. They cancel Colbert (eventually).
    2. The merger goes through, irrevocably.
    3. They de-cancel Colbert.

    And that is what makes it not a bribe: it can be reversed.

    Bribes are, in fact, sometimes reversed or simply not paid. Depends if
    the briber has the power to avoid blowback.

    William Hyde


    "The Supreme Court case Snyder v. United States did not legalize
    bribery, but it did narrow the scope of a federal anti-bribery
    statute. The 6-3 decision held that 18 U.S.C. o 666, which prohibits
    bribery of state and local officials involving federal funds, does
    not apply to "gratuities" (payments made after an official act). The
    Court determined that the statute only covers bribes made in exchange
    for official acts, not gifts or rewards given afterward"
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jul 28 08:48:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:59:20 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:
    <snippo, are reversed bribes still bribes?>
    "The Supreme Court case Snyder v. United States did not legalize
    bribery, but it did narrow the scope of a federal anti-bribery
    statute. The 6-3 decision held that 18 U.S.C. o 666, which prohibits
    bribery of state and local officials involving federal funds, does
    not apply to "gratuities" (payments made after an official act). The
    Court determined that the statute only covers bribes made in exchange
    for official acts, not gifts or rewards given afterward"
    This is not surprising.
    At some point, the IRS presented its employees with an Ethics
    statement. This was printed on light brown (OK, the color is IIRC)
    paper in slightly-less-light brown type. This made it hard to read.
    And I found out /why/ when I read it.
    Suppose you are, in addition to and separate from, your official
    position, an expert in philately (stamp collecting). You give a speech
    to a group of philatelists, for which you are paid $100. Can you
    accept the money?
    The answer depends on what position you hold:
    -- if you are a normal worker bee, say GS 9 or less, you can not: it
    is an illegal bribe
    -- if you are a high-ranking individual (ES [Executive Schedule], not
    GS [General Schedule]) you may accept it: it is a gratuity.
    Since I retired almost 20 years ago (8/1/05, one month before Katrina
    which, since we were paid by the Dept of Agriculture from a facility
    in Louisiana, had an effect on getting my final pay statement), it is
    clear that the principle that those at the top are not bribed but
    merely paid gratuities when given extra money from unofficial sources.
    As to the case, IIRC, there was no proof that the money had been
    offered /before/ the desired official act and then paid after.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Robert Woodward@robertaw@drizzle.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jul 28 10:18:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <ga6f8k5u9g6ujqo1qk230hbhep1u9kgtjv@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:59:20 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    <snippo, are reversed bribes still bribes?>

    "The Supreme Court case Snyder v. United States did not legalize
    bribery, but it did narrow the scope of a federal anti-bribery
    statute. The 6-3 decision held that 18 U.S.C. o 666, which prohibits
    bribery of state and local officials involving federal funds, does
    not apply to "gratuities" (payments made after an official act). The
    Court determined that the statute only covers bribes made in exchange
    for official acts, not gifts or rewards given afterward"

    This is not surprising.

    At some point, the IRS presented its employees with an Ethics
    statement. This was printed on light brown (OK, the color is IIRC)
    paper in slightly-less-light brown type. This made it hard to read.

    And I found out /why/ when I read it.

    Suppose you are, in addition to and separate from, your official
    position, an expert in philately (stamp collecting). You give a speech
    to a group of philatelists, for which you are paid $100. Can you
    accept the money?

    The answer depends on what position you hold:
    -- if you are a normal worker bee, say GS 9 or less, you can not: it
    is an illegal bribe
    -- if you are a high-ranking individual (ES [Executive Schedule], not
    GS [General Schedule]) you may accept it: it is a gratuity.


    I wonder what the ruling would be for an IRS employee on the General
    Schedule who wrote a short story (or even a novel). Could it be
    submitted for publication? Could a novel be self-published?
    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. i-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
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  • From Mike Van Pelt@usenet@mikevanpelt.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jul 29 02:44:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <105clah$1lcpm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/25 18:02, John Savard wrote:
    Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.

    Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.

    Is it a fact, as has been reported multiple places, that The Late Show
    is losing CBS twenty million dollars a year?

    If so, why is it surprising that they would decide to cut their losses?

    How long must they be required to eat this yearly loss?

    Does "free speech" somehow require CBS to make a twenty million dollar
    a year contribution in kind to the Democratic Party? I don't see it.
    --
    Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
    mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
    KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jul 28 21:33:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written



    On 7/28/25 19:44, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
    In article <105clah$1lcpm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/25 18:02, John Savard wrote:
    Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.

    Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.

    Is it a fact, as has been reported multiple places, that The Late Show
    is losing CBS twenty million dollars a year?

    I beg leave to doubt those figures.
    Considering that they pulled $16 million out of petty cash to pay off Trump
    the must not be losing too much money.
    Of course maybe they have been infected with Trump's proven ability
    to run a business into the ground.

    If so, why is it surprising that they would decide to cut their losses?

    How long must they be required to eat this yearly loss?

    Does "free speech" somehow require CBS to make a twenty million dollar
    a year contribution in kind to the Democratic Party? I don't see it.

    Well I still doubt those numbers so where did you find them besides in
    a CBS press release?

    The "donation" was not made to the Democratic party but to the staff
    of the late show. How the staff spends their wages is not the concern
    of the management.

    But when you have an incompetent former reality show actor as
    president then Free Speech is very important and that bad actor in
    the Oval Office is doing the best he can to take away the Constitutional
    rights of anyone who is nor very well off.

    bliss - you may not believe it but I hate to engage in pointless political debates.

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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jul 29 08:00:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:18:40 -0700, Robert Woodward
    <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
    In article <ga6f8k5u9g6ujqo1qk230hbhep1u9kgtjv@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:59:20 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    <snippo, are reversed bribes still bribes?>

    "The Supreme Court case Snyder v. United States did not legalize
    bribery, but it did narrow the scope of a federal anti-bribery
    statute. The 6-3 decision held that 18 U.S.C. o 666, which prohibits
    bribery of state and local officials involving federal funds, does
    not apply to "gratuities" (payments made after an official act). The
    Court determined that the statute only covers bribes made in exchange
    for official acts, not gifts or rewards given afterward"

    This is not surprising.

    At some point, the IRS presented its employees with an Ethics
    statement. This was printed on light brown (OK, the color is IIRC)
    paper in slightly-less-light brown type. This made it hard to read.

    And I found out /why/ when I read it.

    Suppose you are, in addition to and separate from, your official
    position, an expert in philately (stamp collecting). You give a speech
    to a group of philatelists, for which you are paid $100. Can you
    accept the money?

    The answer depends on what position you hold:
    -- if you are a normal worker bee, say GS 9 or less, you can not: it
    is an illegal bribe
    -- if you are a high-ranking individual (ES [Executive Schedule], not
    GS [General Schedule]) you may accept it: it is a gratuity.


    I wonder what the ruling would be for an IRS employee on the General >Schedule who wrote a short story (or even a novel). Could it be
    submitted for publication? Could a novel be self-published?
    Hard to say.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Aug 3 17:46:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Jul 25, 2025, Bobbie Sellers wrote
    (in article <1061ck8$250ff$5@dont-email.me>):

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
    be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    Would you be? I mean, first you gotta peel away the diapers, unplug the catheter, pull Mike JohnsonrCOs head out of the way... Talk about a buzzkill.

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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Aug 3 18:18:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Jul 28, 2025, Mike Van Pelt wrote
    (in article <1069cj4$2e4c0$1@dont-email.me>):

    In article<105clah$1lcpm$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    On 7/17/25 18:02, John Savard wrote:
    Late Night with Stephen Colbert is coming to an end.

    Smothering Free Speech is not beautiful in my very humble opinion.

    Is it a fact, as has been reported multiple places, that The Late Show
    is losing CBS twenty million dollars a year?

    itrCOs Hollywood Accounting. Note that, for example, thanks to Holywood Accounting the Rockford Files _still_ hasnrCOt turned a profit, so that they donrCOt have to pay James Garner his 3 or 4% of the net; Garner sued, and
    they settled for, I think, $14 million 1990s dollars rather than open their books in court. The three rCyDollarrCO spagetti westerns (A Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly) also have yet to show a profit. This pissed Clint Eastwood off so much that he created his own production company, now just Malpaso, and if you wanted Clint in your movie you hired ClintrCOs production company, which had a _close_
    look at the _raw_ income and took a cut off the gross, not the net; ClintrCOs company got paid whether there was a profit or not. ClintrCOs company also hired Friends of Clint; the late Albert Popwell was the only actor other than Clint himself to be in the first four Dirty Harry movies, as he was most definitely a FoC. The Wizard of Oz didnrCOt make a profit until the 1960s...

    SUUUURE The Late Show lost money, they just didnrCOt notice until The Orange Guy got upset. I believe them. I also have this bridge in New York thatrCOs going cheap.


    If so, why is it surprising that they would decide to cut their losses?

    How long must they be required to eat this yearly loss?

    Does "free speech" somehow require CBS to make a twenty million dollar
    a year contribution in kind to the Democratic Party? I don't see it.


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Aug 3 19:37:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written



    On 8/3/25 14:46, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jul 25, 2025, Bobbie Sellers wrote
    (in article <1061ck8$250ff$5@dont-email.me>):

    However Colbert leaving is 10 months away during which time he will
    be free to express his opinion freely as he did last night featureing the
    South Park episode which depicts puny Trump trying to get Satan to
    give him sex. Satan of course is not in the mood.

    Would you be? I mean, first you gotta peel away the diapers, unplug the catheter, pull Mike JohnsonrCOs head out of the way... Talk about a buzzkill.


    You haven't then seen that South Park episode which being a cartoon is free
    to show the Orange Animal nude.

    bliss
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