• [OT]Eyesight

    From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Oct 6 18:49:31 2025
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    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote or quoted:
    |Fortunate for me since I was a tall 6 year old (and in most grade 1
    |classes that means "seated at the back of the classroom") who was VERY
    |good at verbal questions but having a tough time with the blackboard
    |even those a strong reader (I started reading just before my 5th
    |birthday) With glasses I had no problems and did well in school
    |thereafter.

    You write "even though" (literally "even those"), but honestly,
    all that reading could have played a role in messing up your
    eyesight. If I remember right, it's an issue when your eyes stay
    locked in close-up focus for long stretches without a break.


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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Oct 6 20:55:41 2025
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    ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote or quoted:
    |Fortunate for me since I was a tall 6 year old (and in most grade 1
    |classes that means "seated at the back of the classroom") who was VERY
    |good at verbal questions but having a tough time with the blackboard
    |even those a strong reader (I started reading just before my 5th
    |birthday) With glasses I had no problems and did well in school
    |thereafter.

    You write "even though" (literally "even those"), but honestly,
    all that reading could have played a role in messing up your
    eyesight. If I remember right, it's an issue when your eyes stay
    locked in close-up focus for long stretches without a break.

    I had my head buried in a book from circa 10 yo. I didn't
    need glasses until I was 50 - likely due to working daily with
    hardcopy and video terminals from 1976 through today.
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  • From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Oct 7 17:24:36 2025
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    On 7/10/25 09:55, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote or quoted:
    |Fortunate for me since I was a tall 6 year old (and in most grade 1
    |classes that means "seated at the back of the classroom") who was VERY
    |good at verbal questions but having a tough time with the blackboard
    |even those a strong reader (I started reading just before my 5th
    |birthday) With glasses I had no problems and did well in school
    |thereafter.

    You write "even though" (literally "even those"), but honestly,
    all that reading could have played a role in messing up your
    eyesight. If I remember right, it's an issue when your eyes stay
    locked in close-up focus for long stretches without a break.

    I had my head buried in a book from circa 10 yo. I didn't
    need glasses until I was 50 - likely due to working daily with
    hardcopy and video terminals from 1976 through today.

    I had my head buried in a book from circa 4 yo. I didn't need glasses
    until I was 6 - likely due to manufacturing fault.
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Oct 7 09:09:02 2025
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    On 6 Oct 2025 18:49:31 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote or quoted:
    |Fortunate for me since I was a tall 6 year old (and in most grade 1
    |classes that means "seated at the back of the classroom") who was VERY
    |good at verbal questions but having a tough time with the blackboard
    |even those a strong reader (I started reading just before my 5th
    |birthday) With glasses I had no problems and did well in school
    |thereafter.

    You write "even though" (literally "even those"), but honestly,
    all that reading could have played a role in messing up your
    eyesight. If I remember right, it's an issue when your eyes stay
    locked in close-up focus for long stretches without a break.
    Alternately, for childhood/teenage onset, simply /not playing outside/
    might be at fault.
    The theory here is that the developing eye needs to be focused on the
    horizon to allow the eyeball to develop normally. Too little outside
    time staring at the mountains and the eyeball develops in such a way
    that you need glasses.
    Just another reason for the kids to be forced out into the fresh air
    and sunshine. Without their devices: no movie streaming while outside.
    Of course, I am sure there are people who are /born/ needing glasses.
    --
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    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Oct 8 10:14:40 2025
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    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 09:09:02 -0700, Paul S Person
    <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On 6 Oct 2025 18:49:31 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:

    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote or quoted:
    The theory here is that the developing eye needs to be focused on the
    horizon to allow the eyeball to develop normally. Too little outside
    time staring at the mountains and the eyeball develops in such a way
    that you need glasses.

    Well we certainly have mountains around here. And no question the one
    with the worst eyes is the bookiest of my 3 kids. (Though her brother
    is now usually wearing glasses which probably has as much to do with
    his job - he's an electrical engineer which presumably means a lot of
    terminals and hand tools - though in high school he was an electronics
    buff who was heavily into band and Scouts. In fact he met his wife
    when the two of them were manning the first aid tent at Scout
    jamboree)

    Just another reason for the kids to be forced out into the fresh air
    and sunshine. Without their devices: no movie streaming while outside.

    Of course, I am sure there are people who are /born/ needing glasses.

    No doubt - I'm sure acuity of vision is on a "bell curve" in the
    general population with people at both ends of the curve.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Oct 8 19:51:39 2025
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    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 09:09:02 -0700, Paul S Person
    Of course, I am sure there are people who are /born/ needing glasses.

    That would be me. I couldn't focus my good eye beyond about a foot from
    my face until I was twelve and got glasses. The other eye focussed to
    about four inches, and I never developed 3-D vision because I couldn't
    use both of them until it was too late.

    I got fascinated with photography as a child because pictures were so
    much sharper than the real world. I never lost that fascination (and
    I do still have that f/64 obsession with sharpness).

    My wife noticed a few years ago that I don't really recognize people's
    faces as easily as I recognize their voices.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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