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Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth) Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth) >Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth) Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> schrieb:
Blackout/All Clear by Connie WillisIIRC, these books managed not to mention that little skirmish
called the "Eastern Front". Not once.
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> schrieb:So, then, it was Ike that took Berlin in the book?
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth)
Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
IIRC, these books managed not to mention that little skirmish
called the "Eastern Front". Not once.
I am SO glad I read "To Say Nothing of the Dog" first, as I certainly wouldn't have bothered after reading any of the other amazingly grim
stories in the same continuity.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:52:21 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig
<tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> schrieb:
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth)
Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
IIRC, these books managed not to mention that little skirmish
called the "Eastern Front". Not once.
So, then, it was Ike that took Berlin in the book?
Or do the Russians just helicopter in at the end?
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> schrieb:Ah ... vagueness. A sure sign of something, but who knows what?
On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:52:21 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig >><tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> schrieb:
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth)
Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
IIRC, these books managed not to mention that little skirmish
called the "Eastern Front". Not once.
So, then, it was Ike that took Berlin in the book?
Or do the Russians just helicopter in at the end?
No such details were given. V-day celebrations in London were
part of the plot, though.
On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:59:33 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig ><tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> schrieb:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:52:21 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig >>><tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> schrieb:
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth)
Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
IIRC, these books managed not to mention that little skirmish
called the "Eastern Front". Not once.
So, then, it was Ike that took Berlin in the book?
Or do the Russians just helicopter in at the end?
No such details were given. V-day celebrations in London were
part of the plot, though.
Ah ... vagueness. A sure sign of something, but who knows what?
I recently endured Gerrold's /Moonstar Odyssey/, or think I did, under
the title /Moonstar: Jobe, Book One/. The retitling, of course, could
mean revision. This was also quite vague in many ways, and mostly
plotless (except "Jobe is born and reaches puberty") until the
disaster strikes. But even then, a lot of it was vague. [1]
This is the second book (the first was /Space Skimmer/, where the
Kindle had "Book 1" as a subtitle) to apparently be re-purposed to
serve as the only (so far) book in a (so far) one-book series.
In the case of /Moonstar <whatever>/, this is a good thing. More books
in the /Space Skimmer/ series, however, would be nice. The first is
basically a "how the team was formed" book -- like /Buzz Lightyear of
Star Command: The Adventure Begins/ does for (presumably) a TV show
featuring Team Lightyear.
[1] A lot of what wasn't vague would, if filmed with actors the same
age of the characters, run afoul of the Child Pornography laws, IMHO.
It would certainly be NC-17, if not restricted to the XXX market.
In article <annadk5ripf7gua9v6294t86pugriatfff@4ax.com>,But not titled as such.
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:59:33 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig >><tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> schrieb:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:52:21 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig >>>><tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> schrieb:
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth) >>>>>> Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
IIRC, these books managed not to mention that little skirmish
called the "Eastern Front". Not once.
So, then, it was Ike that took Berlin in the book?
Or do the Russians just helicopter in at the end?
No such details were given. V-day celebrations in London were
part of the plot, though.
Ah ... vagueness. A sure sign of something, but who knows what?
I recently endured Gerrold's /Moonstar Odyssey/, or think I did, under
the title /Moonstar: Jobe, Book One/. The retitling, of course, could
mean revision. This was also quite vague in many ways, and mostly
plotless (except "Jobe is born and reaches puberty") until the
disaster strikes. But even then, a lot of it was vague. [1]
This is the second book (the first was /Space Skimmer/, where the
Kindle had "Book 1" as a subtitle) to apparently be re-purposed to
serve as the only (so far) book in a (so far) one-book series.
In the case of /Moonstar <whatever>/, this is a good thing. More books
in the /Space Skimmer/ series, however, would be nice. The first is >>basically a "how the team was formed" book -- like /Buzz Lightyear of
Star Command: The Adventure Begins/ does for (presumably) a TV show >>featuring Team Lightyear.
[1] A lot of what wasn't vague would, if filmed with actors the same
age of the characters, run afoul of the Child Pornography laws, IMHO.
It would certainly be NC-17, if not restricted to the XXX market.
It's my impression Moonstar Odyssey was always intended as book one
of a series.
In a sense, it is part of one: there's a reference to Chtorr early on.Yes there is.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:35:31 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:
In article <annadk5ripf7gua9v6294t86pugriatfff@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:59:33 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig >>><tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> schrieb:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:52:21 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig >>>>><tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> schrieb:
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth) >>>>>>> Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler
IIRC, these books managed not to mention that little skirmish >>>>>>called the "Eastern Front". Not once.
So, then, it was Ike that took Berlin in the book?
Or do the Russians just helicopter in at the end?
No such details were given. V-day celebrations in London were
part of the plot, though.
Ah ... vagueness. A sure sign of something, but who knows what?
I recently endured Gerrold's /Moonstar Odyssey/, or think I did, under >>>the title /Moonstar: Jobe, Book One/. The retitling, of course, could >>>mean revision. This was also quite vague in many ways, and mostly >>>plotless (except "Jobe is born and reaches puberty") until the
disaster strikes. But even then, a lot of it was vague. [1]
This is the second book (the first was /Space Skimmer/, where the
Kindle had "Book 1" as a subtitle) to apparently be re-purposed to
serve as the only (so far) book in a (so far) one-book series.
In the case of /Moonstar <whatever>/, this is a good thing. More books
in the /Space Skimmer/ series, however, would be nice. The first is >>>basically a "how the team was formed" book -- like /Buzz Lightyear of >>>Star Command: The Adventure Begins/ does for (presumably) a TV show >>>featuring Team Lightyear.
[1] A lot of what wasn't vague would, if filmed with actors the same
age of the characters, run afoul of the Child Pornography laws, IMHO.
It would certainly be NC-17, if not restricted to the XXX market.
It's my impression Moonstar Odyssey was always intended as book one
of a series.
But not titled as such.
Still, I suppose the ending (whatever it was) could be regarded as a
lead-in for another book.
And no such other book has appeared since 1977. Thankfully.
In a sense, it is part of one: there's a reference to Chtorr early on.
Yes there is.
Which brings up the apparent absense of Chtorr from Kindle.
Well, it's been a while since I checked, so it /could/ have snuck on
by now, I suppose.
I may sound down on Gerrold, but some of his stuff is well worth
reading: the Trackers duo, the Dingiliad, even Sea of Grass (a
declared trilogy with two volumes in it -- and, IIRC, a slight change
in world-building between the two) and Star Wolf (although mostly
unsold TV scripts and spending a /lot/ of time in space dock).
Oh, and part of something called "Millenium", apparently one of those
Bright Ideas that mostly fizzled: /Chess With A Dragon/ -- which
didn't fizzle at all but was a good entertaining read.
/Hella/, OTOH, continues the /Dingilliad/ story line (written 18 years
after the third book in the trilogy) and a sequal would be nice to
have, but it came out in 2020, which is rather far back.
I'm beginning to wonder if he just has problems figuring out how to >/continue/ stories he has already started. JRRT, of course, had a
(different) problem when he tried to write a sequel to /Lord of the
Rings/, so this is something that can happen to any author.
The ultimate answer is Rowling's: plot out the /entire/ story, keep
the Master Plot in a safe-deposit box, and /keep to the script/, as it
were, in writing the novels. Harry Potter was a septology when it
started, and had all seven volumes in it when it was finished.
In article <v0dddk9rd30aiahqnaunuhb5q411jtr6so@4ax.com>,<snippo mosto>
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Luna was certainly more interesting than, say, the ELF stuff. PerhapsThe ultimate answer is Rowling's: plot out the /entire/ story, keep
the Master Plot in a safe-deposit box, and /keep to the script/, as it >>were, in writing the novels. Harry Potter was a septology when it
started, and had all seven volumes in it when it was finished.
True, but I believe she could have profited by letting things develop
a bit as well. For instance, Luna was a breakout character who got
short shrift, and after Dudley's apology, which worked very well,
having he & his kid at the station with Harry in the post-logue
would have been nice.
Blackout/All Clear by Connie Willis
Oxford sends its best to study World War Two in this (grinds teeth) Hugo-winning tale of sound and fury.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/take-that-hitler