• [NEWS] BBC: "Doctor Who" not cancelled and spin-off due in 2026

    From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.drwho, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 09:28:57 2025
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    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron in
    management says something (not just TV and movies either) is not being cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or months later to say it is cancelled.



    BBC: Doctor Who "Going forward, with or without Disney",
    Spin-off Confirmed for 2026
    --------------------------------------------------------
    After several months of uncertainty, the BBC has reassured
    audiences that Doctor Who is here to stay, although they
    stopped short of confirming a new series.

    Speaking at the Edinburgh TV Festival, Kate Phillips, Chief
    Content Officer at the BBC, underlined the broadcaster's
    commitment to the Time Lord's future.

    "Any Whovians out there, rest assured - Doctor Who is going
    nowhere," she asserted.

    Phillips acknowledged the importance of the ongoing
    collaboration with Disney, which has boosted the show's
    global reach.

    "Disney has been a great partnership and it continues with
    The War Between The Land And The Sea next year but, going
    forward, with or without Disney, Doctor Who will still be
    on the BBC."

    She sealed her comments with a reassurance that will please
    fans: "The TARDIS is going nowhere."

    The War Between The Land And The Sea becomes the first
    spin-off of Russell T Davies' second era, with the BBC
    confirming a 2026 debut after earlier speculation of a
    late-2025 release.

    Lindsay Salt, the BBC's Director of Drama, added that the
    broadcaster was "committed" to Doctor Who, praising its
    strong connection with younger viewers. She admitted that
    "there's no update at the moment" on the main series, but
    promised, "we will share as soon as we can".

    We will still have to wait for official confirmation of a
    new series, but the signs are more encouraging than fans
    have seen in a while, particularly after the low ratings of
    Series 15.


    <https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/phillips-doctor-who-future-106105.htm>



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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Aug 21 23:31:09 2025
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    On 21/08/2025 22:28, Your Name wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron in
    management says something (not just TV and movies either) is not being cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or months later to say it is cancelled.



    -a-a BBC: Doctor Who "Going forward, with or without Disney",
    -a-a Spin-off Confirmed for 2026
    -a-a --------------------------------------------------------
    -a-a After several months of uncertainty, the BBC has reassured
    -a-a audiences that Doctor Who is here to stay, although they
    -a-a stopped short of confirming a new series.

    -a-a Speaking at the Edinburgh TV Festival, Kate Phillips, Chief
    -a-a Content Officer at the BBC, underlined the broadcaster's
    -a-a commitment to the Time Lord's future.

    -a-a "Any Whovians out there, rest assured - Doctor Who is going
    -a-a nowhere," she asserted.

    -a-a Phillips acknowledged the importance of the ongoing
    -a-a collaboration with Disney, which has boosted the show's
    -a-a global reach.

    -a-a "Disney has been a great partnership and it continues with
    -a-a The War Between The Land And The Sea next year but, going
    -a-a forward, with or without Disney, Doctor Who will still be
    -a-a on the BBC."

    -a-a She sealed her comments with a reassurance that will please
    -a-a fans: "The TARDIS is going nowhere."

    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down vehicle. It
    hasn't been anywhere since Doctor Who ended in 2017 and it's not going anywhere now.


    -a-a The War Between The Land And The Sea becomes the first
    -a-a spin-off of Russell T Davies' second era, with the BBC
    -a-a confirming a 2026 debut after earlier speculation of a
    -a-a late-2025 release.

    -a-a Lindsay Salt, the BBC's Director of Drama, added that the
    -a-a broadcaster was "committed" to Doctor Who, praising its
    -a-a strong connection with younger viewers. She admitted that

    She is living in fantasy land. There are no children watching the
    infantile woke degeneracy that Doctor Who has been turned into. No
    decent parent would let their child watch it and be sexual groomed.

    -a-a "there's no update at the moment" on the main series, but
    -a-a promised, "we will share as soon as we can".

    -a-a We will still have to wait for official confirmation of a
    -a-a new series, but the signs are more encouraging than fans
    -a-a have seen in a while, particularly after the low ratings of
    -a-a Series 15.


    -a-a <https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/phillips-doctor-who-future-106105.htm>


    The BBC have just confirmed that the TARDIS is going nowhere. The show
    is dead!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Aug 21 22:34:29 2025
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    In article <108832o$16p5g$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron in
    management says something (not just TV and movies either) is not being >cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or months later to say it is >cancelled.



    BBC: Doctor Who "Going forward, with or without Disney",
    Spin-off Confirmed for 2026
    --------------------------------------------------------
    After several months of uncertainty, the BBC has reassured
    audiences that Doctor Who is here to stay, although they
    stopped short of confirming a new series.

    Speaking at the Edinburgh TV Festival, Kate Phillips, Chief
    Content Officer at the BBC, underlined the broadcaster's
    commitment to the Time Lord's future.

    "Any Whovians out there, rest assured - Doctor Who is going
    nowhere," she asserted.

    Phillips acknowledged the importance of the ongoing
    collaboration with Disney, which has boosted the show's
    global reach.

    "Disney has been a great partnership and it continues with
    The War Between The Land And The Sea next year but, going
    forward, with or without Disney, Doctor Who will still be
    on the BBC."

    She sealed her comments with a reassurance that will please
    fans: "The TARDIS is going nowhere."

    The War Between The Land And The Sea becomes the first
    spin-off of Russell T Davies' second era, with the BBC
    confirming a 2026 debut after earlier speculation of a
    late-2025 release.

    Lindsay Salt, the BBC's Director of Drama, added that the
    broadcaster was "committed" to Doctor Who, praising its
    strong connection with younger viewers. She admitted that
    "there's no update at the moment" on the main series, but
    promised, "we will share as soon as we can".

    We will still have to wait for official confirmation of a
    new series, but the signs are more encouraging than fans
    have seen in a while, particularly after the low ratings of
    Series 15.


    <https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/phillips-doctor-who-future-106105.htm>




    Now sack RTD!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Aug 21 22:35:31 2025
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    In article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 21/08/2025 22:28, Your Name wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron in
    management says something (not just TV and movies either) is not being
    cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or months later to say it is
    cancelled.



    -a-a BBC: Doctor Who "Going forward, with or without Disney",
    -a-a Spin-off Confirmed for 2026
    -a-a --------------------------------------------------------
    -a-a After several months of uncertainty, the BBC has reassured
    -a-a audiences that Doctor Who is here to stay, although they
    -a-a stopped short of confirming a new series.

    -a-a Speaking at the Edinburgh TV Festival, Kate Phillips, Chief
    -a-a Content Officer at the BBC, underlined the broadcaster's
    -a-a commitment to the Time Lord's future.

    -a-a "Any Whovians out there, rest assured - Doctor Who is going
    -a-a nowhere," she asserted.

    -a-a Phillips acknowledged the importance of the ongoing
    -a-a collaboration with Disney, which has boosted the show's
    -a-a global reach.

    -a-a "Disney has been a great partnership and it continues with
    -a-a The War Between The Land And The Sea next year but, going
    -a-a forward, with or without Disney, Doctor Who will still be
    -a-a on the BBC."

    -a-a She sealed her comments with a reassurance that will please
    -a-a fans: "The TARDIS is going nowhere."

    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down vehicle. It
    hasn't been anywhere since Doctor Who ended in 2017 and it's not going >anywhere now.


    -a-a The War Between The Land And The Sea becomes the first
    -a-a spin-off of Russell T Davies' second era, with the BBC
    -a-a confirming a 2026 debut after earlier speculation of a
    -a-a late-2025 release.

    -a-a Lindsay Salt, the BBC's Director of Drama, added that the
    -a-a broadcaster was "committed" to Doctor Who, praising its
    -a-a strong connection with younger viewers. She admitted that

    She is living in fantasy land. There are no children watching the
    infantile woke degeneracy that Doctor Who has been turned into. No
    decent parent would let their child watch it and be sexual groomed.

    -a-a "there's no update at the moment" on the main series, but
    -a-a promised, "we will share as soon as we can".

    -a-a We will still have to wait for official confirmation of a
    -a-a new series, but the signs are more encouraging than fans
    -a-a have seen in a while, particularly after the low ratings of
    -a-a Series 15.


    -a-a <https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/phillips-doctor-who-future-106105.htm> >>

    The BBC have just confirmed that the TARDIS is going nowhere. The show
    is dead!


    Looks like Lindsay is captaining a sinking ship!

    --
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Aug 21 16:29:45 2025
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    Verily, in article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down vehicle.


    She could definitely have phrased that better!

    She also said that Doctor Who is going nowhere, though.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 01:00:44 2025
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    On 22/08/2025 00:29, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down vehicle.


    She could definitely have phrased that better!

    She also said that Doctor Who is going nowhere, though.


    It's totally in limbo then. It won't go on Disney+, on HBO Max, on Prime Video, on Netflix, and on the BBC either. It's going nowhere along with
    the TARDIS.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 01:52:33 2025
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    In article <MPG.43114bc0450f60c798985a@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down vehicle.


    She could definitely have phrased that better!

    She also said that Doctor Who is going nowhere, though.


    Good catch!

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 01:53:07 2025
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    In article <1088bvd$186od$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/08/2025 00:29, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down vehicle.


    She could definitely have phrased that better!

    She also said that Doctor Who is going nowhere, though.


    It's totally in limbo then. It won't go on Disney+, on HBO Max, on Prime >Video, on Netflix, and on the BBC either. It's going nowhere along with
    the TARDIS.


    Lindsay is determined that the The TARDIS goes nowhere.

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 12:34:41 2025
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    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down
    vehicle.


    She could definitely have phrased that better!

    She also said that Doctor Who is going nowhere, though.

    It's too big a show for the BBC for them to just drop it... they
    could do with bringing in a new showrunner, one with no previous
    Doctor Who baggage, and freshen it up by making the show about
    the Doctor again and dropping all those silly cameo's and
    throwback arcs that RTD seems obsessed with.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 11:44:10 2025
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    In article <xn0p9ui50d0y7i0002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down
    vehicle.


    She could definitely have phrased that better!

    She also said that Doctor Who is going nowhere, though.

    It's too big a show for the BBC for them to just drop it... they
    could do with bringing in a new showrunner, one with no previous
    Doctor Who baggage, and freshen it up by making the show about
    the Doctor again and dropping all those silly cameo's and
    throwback arcs that RTD seems obsessed with.

    That is the argument that I have been making.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 14:23:31 2025
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    On 22/08/2025 12:34, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <10886ne$17fpj$1@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    The TARDIS is going nowhere. Sounds like a broken down
    vehicle.


    She could definitely have phrased that better!

    She also said that Doctor Who is going nowhere, though.

    It's too big a show for the BBC for them to just drop it... they
    could do with bringing in a new showrunner, one with no previous
    Doctor Who baggage, and freshen it up by making the show about
    the Doctor again and dropping all those silly cameo's and
    throwback arcs that RTD seems obsessed with.

    They've already totally destroyed the entire franchise by turning the
    Doctor into the Timeless Child monster, turning him into a woman, and
    then turning him gay and using the show to sexually groom children.

    There is no way it can ever recover from that unless there's a complete
    reboot from either Sylvester McCoy or Paul McGann and the wokery
    especially turning the Doctor gay is completely and utterly condemned
    and watertight assurances are given that the Doctor will never be turned
    into a woman or gay ever again and the BBC must accept that it was an
    enormous mistake to change the Doctor's gender and sexuality and insert
    overt political messages into the show, and apologise to the fans who
    called this out and were systematically attacked and demeaned with no justification.

    The entire RTD era from 2005 onwards must be written off as not being
    Doctor Who and the BBC must explicitly state that the Doctor is a white heterosexual male character who had no incarnations before the first
    Doctor played by William Hartnell and he will always remain that way.

    The BBC must eat humble pie!
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 06:31:05 2025
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    Verily, in article <xn0p9ui50d0y7i0002@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    It's too big a show for the BBC for them to just drop it... they
    could do with bringing in a new showrunner, one with no previous
    Doctor Who baggage, and freshen it up by making the show about
    the Doctor again and dropping all those silly cameo's and
    throwback arcs that RTD seems obsessed with.


    It might be best to let it mellow for a couple of years. After that,
    they could do a sort of soft reboot where they get back to the show's
    roots. A break could let them attract kids who haven't already learned
    that the Doctor is cringe.
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 06:43:20 2025
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    Verily, in article <1089r0k$1iv1j$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    There is no way it can ever recover from that unless there's a complete reboot from either Sylvester McCoy or Paul McGann


    Why would we have to go back that far? I liked the Eccleston year and
    most of Tennant as Ten, though it did start spinning out a bit at the
    end.

    I liked most of Matt Smith's era as well. IMO, things didn't really get
    bad until Capaldi's tenure. MISI/Missy/The Mistress was probably the
    beginning of the end.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 15:03:55 2025
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    On 22/08/2025 14:31, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0p9ui50d0y7i0002@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    It's too big a show for the BBC for them to just drop it... they
    could do with bringing in a new showrunner, one with no previous
    Doctor Who baggage, and freshen it up by making the show about
    the Doctor again and dropping all those silly cameo's and
    throwback arcs that RTD seems obsessed with.


    It might be best to let it mellow for a couple of years. After that,
    they could do a sort of soft reboot where they get back to the show's
    roots. A break could let them attract kids who haven't already learned
    that the Doctor is cringe.

    You mean transgender and gay. The show is dead! No decent parent will
    let their children watch it ever again, and no child that has watched it
    would ever admit to it at school.

    No head of drama in their right mind would have ever agreed to the
    Doctor being gender swapped and being turned gay. The BBC only have
    themselves to blame.
    --
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 15:27:37 2025
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    On 22/08/2025 14:43, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <1089r0k$1iv1j$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    There is no way it can ever recover from that unless there's a complete
    reboot from either Sylvester McCoy or Paul McGann


    Why would we have to go back that far? I liked the Eccleston year and

    Because everything that RTD is involved with is completely tainted. All
    that he wanted to do with the show was to use it to sexually groom
    children. He's already admitted to that by claiming the show was too
    white, masculine, and heterosexual, and that he got pleasure every time
    her heard a boy had discovered he was homosexual by watching something
    that he had written or produced. Too much irreparable damage has been done.
    most of Tennant as Ten, though it did start spinning out a bit at the
    end.

    Tennant killed off all of his street-cred when he came back and allowed himself to be attacked and insulted for being a man by a transgender
    bigot and their bigoted mother, and then passed off the Doctor as being
    gay in the following episode. He's also totally discredited himself with
    all of his cross dressing and woke shenanigans.

    It's a pity that he's now destroyed the entire show for Eccleston,
    Smith, and Capaldi. There's no way you can start the show again from Eccleston. Allowing Tennant to remain canon is unacceptable to many. The entire new series will have to be completely written off. Too much
    damage has been done by Chibnall, Davies, and Tennant which cannot be fixed.


    I liked most of Matt Smith's era as well. IMO, things didn't really get

    Matt Smith was the best incarnation of the new series. That is when the
    show reached its peak.

    bad until Capaldi's tenure. MISI/Missy/The Mistress was probably the beginning of the end.


    The beginning of the end was Kill the Moon. The audience were all
    treated as complete morons from that episode onwards. Moffat had totally
    ran out of ideas and every episode was based on 3 or 4 recycled story
    briefs repeated over and over again. Kill the Moon was morons in space
    and even bigger morons writing and producing it. The Missy Cyberrubbish totally insulted everyone's dearly departed and the memory of the
    Brigadier and Nicholas Courtney by hanging up a huge painting of him and
    then turning him into a Cyberman after his death. After that when
    Capaldi rode the tank (the Doctor Who equivalent of Fonzi jumping the
    shark) the ratings collapsed to less than half.
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 08:37:05 2025
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    Verily, in article <1089uoq$1iv1j$5@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Tennant killed off all of his street-cred when he came back and allowed himself to be attacked and insulted for being a man by a transgender
    bigot and their bigoted mother,


    Well, that's true enough, but I'm still okay with keeping his run as
    Ten. It's the return which stank up the airwaves.
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 18:56:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <1089uoq$1iv1j$5@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Tennant killed off all of his street-cred when he came
    back and allowed himself to be attacked and insulted for
    being a man by a transgender bigot and their bigoted mother,

    Well, that's true enough, but I'm still okay with keeping his
    run as Ten.

    Ten's run was fine. Well, until all of the "I don't want to
    go" stuff at the end... which was just lame.

    Jodie Whittaker regenerating into David Tennant was RTD doing
    his clickbait television thing to get people talking about
    Doctor Who ... he's now done the same thing with Billie Piper.

    It's the return which stank up the airwaves.

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and Donna
    would restore some fan credibility and help the show recover
    from Jodie's era.
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 14:58:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <108832o$16p5g$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron in
    management says something (not just TV and movies either) is not being >cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or months later to say it is >cancelled.

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 20:43:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Ubiquitous wrote:

    In article <108832o$16p5g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron
    in management says something (not just TV and movies either)
    is not being cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or
    months later to say it is cancelled.

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!

    The BBC don't seem to be in a rush to air it anyway...
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 12:46:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Verily, in article <xn0p9utpn21xn18000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    Ten's run was fine. Well, until all of the "I don't want to
    go" stuff at the end... which was just lame.

    Yeah, the end was lame. Some people thought he was whiny throughout, but
    I thought it was good until the whiny end.

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and Donna
    would restore some fan credibility and help the show recover
    from Jodie's era.

    I agree. That's what I said as soon as I heard he was coming back. He
    probably hoped the early audiences would flock back, but it doesn't work
    that way.

    I hope this massive retcon happens and happens well, but I don't have
    much confidence.
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 20:00:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0p9utpn21xn18000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and
    Donna would restore some fan credibility and help the show
    recover from Jodie's era.

    I agree. That's what I said as soon as I heard he was coming
    back. He probably hoped the early audiences would flock back,
    but it doesn't work that way.

    I hope this massive retcon happens and happens well, but I
    don't have much confidence.

    RTD's arrogance and ego will stop him retconning anything...
    the only chance the show has going forward is for a fresh start
    with a new showrunner... not the return of Billie Piper and
    David Tennant in more of the same.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:52:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 22/08/2025 21:00, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0p9utpn21xn18000@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and
    Donna would restore some fan credibility and help the show
    recover from Jodie's era.

    I agree. That's what I said as soon as I heard he was coming
    back. He probably hoped the early audiences would flock back,
    but it doesn't work that way.

    I hope this massive retcon happens and happens well, but I
    don't have much confidence.

    RTD's arrogance and ego will stop him retconning anything...
    the only chance the show has going forward is for a fresh start
    with a new showrunner... not the return of Billie Piper and
    David Tennant in more of the same.

    The only way forward is Dallas, and even then turning the Doctor gay and
    using that to sexually groom children has done too much irreparable
    damage. Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?

    The total erasure of the entire RTD era since 2005 is probably the only
    viable option. All trust has been lost in the BBC thanks to its
    perverted agenda.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:55:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 22/08/2025 20:43, Blueshirt wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    In article <108832o$16p5g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron
    in management says something (not just TV and movies either)
    is not being cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or
    months later to say it is cancelled.

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!

    The BBC don't seem to be in a rush to air it anyway...

    They're waiting for the graveyard shift to become available, or Disney
    are. Disney probably doesn't want to air it so they can use it as a tax
    break like Warner did with Batgirl.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:41:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.431210f990a321be98985b@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0p9ui50d0y7i0002@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    It's too big a show for the BBC for them to just drop it... they
    could do with bringing in a new showrunner, one with no previous
    Doctor Who baggage, and freshen it up by making the show about
    the Doctor again and dropping all those silly cameo's and
    throwback arcs that RTD seems obsessed with.


    It might be best to let it mellow for a couple of years. After that,
    they could do a sort of soft reboot where they get back to the show's
    roots. A break could let them attract kids who haven't already learned
    that the Doctor is cringe.


    What is needed is a total retcon of the Timeless Child.


    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:42:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.431213d610119cc498985d@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1089r0k$1iv1j$2@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    There is no way it can ever recover from that unless there's a complete
    reboot from either Sylvester McCoy or Paul McGann


    Why would we have to go back that far? I liked the Eccleston year and
    most of Tennant as Ten, though it did start spinning out a bit at the
    end.

    I liked most of Matt Smith's era as well. IMO, things didn't really get
    bad until Capaldi's tenure. MISI/Missy/The Mistress was probably the >beginning of the end.


    Given what Gaiman planted in The Doctor's Wife.

    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --
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    All I want to hear from JEsus Christ is WEll done Good and Faithful servant
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:43:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <1089tcc$1iv1j$4@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/08/2025 14:31, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0p9ui50d0y7i0002@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    It's too big a show for the BBC for them to just drop it... they
    could do with bringing in a new showrunner, one with no previous
    Doctor Who baggage, and freshen it up by making the show about
    the Doctor again and dropping all those silly cameo's and
    throwback arcs that RTD seems obsessed with.


    It might be best to let it mellow for a couple of years. After that,
    they could do a sort of soft reboot where they get back to the show's
    roots. A break could let them attract kids who haven't already learned
    that the Doctor is cringe.

    You mean transgender and gay. The show is dead! No decent parent will
    let their children watch it ever again, and no child that has watched it >would ever admit to it at school.

    No head of drama in their right mind would have ever agreed to the
    Doctor being gender swapped and being turned gay. The BBC only have >themselves to blame.


    Will Lindsay correct that?

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
    --
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    All I want to hear from JEsus Christ is WEll done Good and Faithful servant
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:45:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <xn0p9utpn21xn18000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <1089uoq$1iv1j$5@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    Tennant killed off all of his street-cred when he came
    back and allowed himself to be attacked and insulted for
    being a man by a transgender bigot and their bigoted mother,

    Well, that's true enough, but I'm still okay with keeping his
    run as Ten.

    Ten's run was fine. Well, until all of the "I don't want to
    go" stuff at the end... which was just lame.

    Jodie Whittaker regenerating into David Tennant was RTD doing
    his clickbait television thing to get people talking about
    Doctor Who ... he's now done the same thing with Billie Piper.

    It's the return which stank up the airwaves.

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and Donna
    would restore some fan credibility and help the show recover
    from Jodie's era.

    not 14 that is Gatwa! Real 13!!
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:45:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <108aeko$1nvae$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <108832o$16p5g$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron in
    management says something (not just TV and movies either) is not being >>cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or months later to say it is >>cancelled.

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!


    Yeah.
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:46:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <xn0p9uv0723nvbu002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    In article <108832o$16p5g$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron
    in management says something (not just TV and movies either)
    is not being cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or
    months later to say it is cancelled.

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!

    The BBC don't seem to be in a rush to air it anyway...

    Given the pickle they put themselves in.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
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    All I want to hear from JEsus Christ is WEll done Good and Faithful servant
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:46:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.431268eaff45f803989866@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0p9utpn21xn18000@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    Ten's run was fine. Well, until all of the "I don't want to
    go" stuff at the end... which was just lame.

    Yeah, the end was lame. Some people thought he was whiny throughout, but
    I thought it was good until the whiny end.

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and Donna
    would restore some fan credibility and help the show recover
    from Jodie's era.

    I agree. That's what I said as soon as I heard he was coming back. He >probably hoped the early audiences would flock back, but it doesn't work >that way.

    I hope this massive retcon happens and happens well, but I don't have
    much confidence.



    Need a new showrunner and a clean break.


    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ;
    All I want to hear from JEsus Christ is WEll done Good and Faithful servant
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:47:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <xn0p9uved248cwd004@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0p9utpn21xn18000@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and
    Donna would restore some fan credibility and help the show
    recover from Jodie's era.

    I agree. That's what I said as soon as I heard he was coming
    back. He probably hoped the early audiences would flock back,
    but it doesn't work that way.

    I hope this massive retcon happens and happens well, but I
    don't have much confidence.

    RTD's arrogance and ego will stop him retconning anything...
    the only chance the show has going forward is for a fresh start
    with a new showrunner... not the return of Billie Piper and
    David Tennant in more of the same.

    Time to dump RTD.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 21:47:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/08/2025 21:00, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0p9utpn21xn18000@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    David Tennant's return was RTD replaying his greatest hits
    and hoping the popular pairing of Ten (aka Fourteen) and
    Donna would restore some fan credibility and help the show
    recover from Jodie's era.

    I agree. That's what I said as soon as I heard he was coming
    back. He probably hoped the early audiences would flock back,
    but it doesn't work that way.

    I hope this massive retcon happens and happens well, but I
    don't have much confidence.

    RTD's arrogance and ego will stop him retconning anything...
    the only chance the show has going forward is for a fresh start
    with a new showrunner... not the return of Billie Piper and
    David Tennant in more of the same.

    The only way forward is Dallas, and even then turning the Doctor gay and >using that to sexually groom children has done too much irreparable
    damage. Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?

    The total erasure of the entire RTD era since 2005 is probably the only >viable option. All trust has been lost in the BBC thanks to its
    perverted agenda.


    Woke agenda you mean.

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 14:58:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?



    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 23:07:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 22/08/2025 22:58, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?



    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    That is called sexual grooming, not trendy.


    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.


    So she was sexually groomed into thinking she was gay and now the
    groomers are attacking and bullying her for refusing to submit to their
    will. Disgusting bunch of perverts! They should be allowed nowhere
    children or social media.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 15:09:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Verily, in article <108ao8h$emi$3@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Given what Gaiman planted in The Doctor's Wife.


    My memory of that episode consists largely of "The TARDIS turned human.
    So dumb." What did he plant?
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 15:11:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Verily, in article <108aoid$emi$14@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    The total erasure of the entire RTD era since 2005 is probably the only >viable option. All trust has been lost in the BBC thanks to its
    perverted agenda.


    Woke agenda you mean.

    Some might say that's the same thing.
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 23:14:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 22/08/2025 23:11, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108aoid$emi$14@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    The total erasure of the entire RTD era since 2005 is probably the only
    viable option. All trust has been lost in the BBC thanks to its
    perverted agenda.


    Woke agenda you mean.

    Some might say that's the same thing.


    Woke and perverted are both synonyms for each other.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Fri Aug 22 15:57:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    Verily, in article <108apnt$1q5p4$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 22/08/2025 22:58, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?



    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    That is called sexual grooming, not trendy.

    That's the thing. The kids themselves decide what kids find trendy.
    They're highly influenced in those decisions, and for years now most of
    those influencing them have been gay or trans or sympathetic. So, yes,
    it is trendy.

    The good news -- from my POV, and probably yours -- is that GenZ is
    shaping up to be more conservative than many predicted. They may have
    just plain gone too far, running into some hardwired instincts like
    "protect the children." Even so, reversing the trend will take time and different influences.

    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.


    So she was sexually groomed into thinking she was gay and now the
    groomers are attacking and bullying her for refusing to submit to their will.

    Yeah, pretty much. I felt bad for her. I laughed at her initial gaypop
    video, but I regret that. Now I just hope people lay off before they
    bully her into something drastic.
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 00:53:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 22/08/2025 23:57, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108apnt$1q5p4$2@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 22/08/2025 22:58, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?



    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    That is called sexual grooming, not trendy.

    That's the thing. The kids themselves decide what kids find trendy.

    They don't and never have done. They're told by marketing companies and
    sexual predators what they should think is trendy. This has been the
    case since the 1950s when people figured out how to make money from
    them, or in the case of the music industry, sexually groom and entice them.

    They're highly influenced in those decisions, and for years now most of
    those influencing them have been gay or trans or sympathetic. So, yes,
    it is trendy.

    The good news -- from my POV, and probably yours -- is that GenZ is
    shaping up to be more conservative than many predicted. They may have
    just plain gone too far, running into some hardwired instincts like
    "protect the children." Even so, reversing the trend will take time and different influences.

    We have Donald Trump and Elon Musk to thank for that.

    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.


    So she was sexually groomed into thinking she was gay and now the
    groomers are attacking and bullying her for refusing to submit to their
    will.

    Yeah, pretty much. I felt bad for her. I laughed at her initial gaypop
    video, but I regret that. Now I just hope people lay off before they
    bully her into something drastic.

    They need to stop this degeneracy being taught in schools. Governor Ron DeSantis is on the right track but more needs to be done in the same direction. No sex education for kids until they reach the age of 13, and
    even then it needs to limited to being taught as the means by which to
    produce children, no different to how animals mate, and it is naturally between a man and a woman, and how to protect yourself and prevent
    unwanted pregnancies. Children also need to be taught about sexual
    predators, especially those in the entertainment industry and how to
    report them to the authorities.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." --William Shatner
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 02:25:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.431287e2bf0e5714989869@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?



    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.


    Screw the fools!

    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 02:26:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <108apnt$1q5p4$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/08/2025 22:58, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?



    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    That is called sexual grooming, not trendy.


    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.


    So she was sexually groomed into thinking she was gay and now the
    groomers are attacking and bullying her for refusing to submit to their >will. Disgusting bunch of perverts! They should be allowed nowhere
    children or social media.


    The perverts should be in jail!

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 02:26:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.43128a84b1c4425a98986a@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <108ao8h$emi$3@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Given what Gaiman planted in The Doctor's Wife.


    My memory of that episode consists largely of "The TARDIS turned human.
    So dumb." What did he plant?


    The Corsair making timieLords gender fluid.

    --
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    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 02:27:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.43128ae6d85179f698986b@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <108aoid$emi$14@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    The total erasure of the entire RTD era since 2005 is probably the only
    viable option. All trust has been lost in the BBC thanks to its
    perverted agenda.


    Woke agenda you mean.

    Some might say that's the same thing.


    You got the idea.


    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ;
    All I want to hear from JEsus Christ is WEll done Good and Faithful servant
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 02:27:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <108aq42$1qnnf$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/08/2025 23:11, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108aoid$emi$14@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    In article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    The total erasure of the entire RTD era since 2005 is probably the only >>>> viable option. All trust has been lost in the BBC thanks to its
    perverted agenda.


    Woke agenda you mean.

    Some might say that's the same thing.


    Woke and perverted are both synonyms for each other.


    Spot on!

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ;
    All I want to hear from JEsus Christ is WEll done Good and Faithful servant
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 02:29:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.431295a763d6833e98986d@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <108apnt$1q5p4$2@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 22/08/2025 22:58, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite?



    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    That is called sexual grooming, not trendy.

    That's the thing. The kids themselves decide what kids find trendy.
    They're highly influenced in those decisions, and for years now most of >those influencing them have been gay or trans or sympathetic. So, yes,
    it is trendy.

    The good news -- from my POV, and probably yours -- is that GenZ is
    shaping up to be more conservative than many predicted. They may have
    just plain gone too far, running into some hardwired instincts like
    "protect the children." Even so, reversing the trend will take time and >different influences.

    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.


    So she was sexually groomed into thinking she was gay and now the
    groomers are attacking and bullying her for refusing to submit to their
    will.

    Yeah, pretty much. I felt bad for her. I laughed at her initial gaypop >video, but I regret that. Now I just hope people lay off before they
    bully her into something drastic.



    Bullying is bullying even from Homosexuals.


    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ;
    All I want to hear from JEsus Christ is WEll done Good and Faithful servant
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 02:31:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <108avuo$1s0au$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 22/08/2025 23:57, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108apnt$1q5p4$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:

    On 22/08/2025 22:58, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <108al9p$1pjl8$2@dont-email.me>, did
    agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
    Why would any child dare admit to watching this show at school
    when it would be bullied and accused of being gay or a transvestite? >>>>>


    That's been trendy for quite some time. Many kids report feeling
    pressured to be gay or trans, for cred.

    That is called sexual grooming, not trendy.

    That's the thing. The kids themselves decide what kids find trendy.

    They don't and never have done. They're told by marketing companies and >sexual predators what they should think is trendy. This has been the
    case since the 1950s when people figured out how to make money from
    them, or in the case of the music industry, sexually groom and entice them.

    They're highly influenced in those decisions, and for years now most of
    those influencing them have been gay or trans or sympathetic. So, yes,
    it is trendy.

    The good news -- from my POV, and probably yours -- is that GenZ is
    shaping up to be more conservative than many predicted. They may have
    just plain gone too far, running into some hardwired instincts like
    "protect the children." Even so, reversing the trend will take time and
    different influences.

    We have Donald Trump and Elon Musk to thank for that.

    Have you been following the story of former child star Jojo Siwa? For
    about two minutes, she performed "gaypop" and billed herself as "the
    gayest person in the world." Then, she met a guy. She is now being
    wildly attacked as a so-called tradwife, just for dating a guy.


    So she was sexually groomed into thinking she was gay and now the
    groomers are attacking and bullying her for refusing to submit to their
    will.

    Yeah, pretty much. I felt bad for her. I laughed at her initial gaypop
    video, but I regret that. Now I just hope people lay off before they
    bully her into something drastic.

    They need to stop this degeneracy being taught in schools. Governor Ron >DeSantis is on the right track but more needs to be done in the same >direction. No sex education for kids until they reach the age of 13, and >even then it needs to limited to being taught as the means by which to >produce children, no different to how animals mate, and it is naturally >between a man and a woman, and how to protect yourself and prevent
    unwanted pregnancies. Children also need to be taught about sexual >predators, especially those in the entertainment industry and how to
    report them to the authorities.


    Fully concurred.
    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Sat Aug 23 07:34:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 22/08/2025 20:43, Blueshirt wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!

    The BBC don't seem to be in a rush to air it anyway...

    They're waiting for the graveyard shift to become available,
    or Disney are. Disney probably doesn't want to air it so they
    can use it as a tax break like Warner did with Batgirl.

    The BBC probably want to broadcast it around some environment
    themed event as a tie-in to make it look like they are modern
    and on point with their messaging...

    Is there a "Love a Reptile Day"? If so, it'll air then!
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Aug 28 04:30:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:
    YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron
    in management says something (not just TV and movies either)
    is not being cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or
    months later to say it is cancelled.

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!

    The BBC don't seem to be in a rush to air it anyway...

    I imagine it's hard to find actors with the stamina required to film it.

    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Thu Aug 28 12:54:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <108ph4p$19k1h$8@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    blueshirt@indigo.news wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:
    YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    SUPPOSEDLY!
    There have been numerous examples in the past where a moron
    in management says something (not just TV and movies either)
    is not being cancelled, only to then turn around weeks or
    months later to say it is cancelled.

    I imagine this spin-off is as doomed as doomed can be!

    The BBC don't seem to be in a rush to air it anyway...

    I imagine it's hard to find actors with the stamina required to film it.


    If they can.

    --
    Not a joke! Don't jump!

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