• [NEWS] Still no release date for "The War Between the Land and Sea" (Doctor Who spin-off)

    From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.drwho on Mon Aug 18 12:54:15 2025
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    Airdate of Doctor Who Spin-Off, The War Between The Land And The Sea,
    "Up In The Air"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Russell T Davies, showrunner of Doctor Who, says that spin-off
    programme, The War Between the Land and the Sea, is "even better"
    than the production team thought it would be... but no one has any
    idea when it'll air on TV and Disney+.

    On the Pilot TV podcast, Davies enthuses: "Sometimes you finish a
    show and they're like, 'Great, good, we did a really good job'...
    Sometimes they go through post-production where everything comes in.
    You work on the effects, on the music and the grading of it.
    Sometimes magic happens - and it's happening with this. It's even
    better than we thought it was! I'm delighted with it."

    However, he says the airdate is "up in the air", so we don't know if
    we'll see the series any time soon.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the Sea
    Devils vs UNIT, though the former looks rather different to anything
    we've seen before, looking more humanoid than appearances in, say,
    Warriors of the Deep and Legend of the Sea Devils. Otherwise, it's
    an aquatic species coming into conflict with mankind.

    The show features Gugu Mbatha-Raw (who previously played Martha
    Jones' sister, Tish) as Salt, and Russell Tovey (Voyage of the
    Damned) as Barclay, alongside Jemma Redgrave as Kate Stewart. It
    also stars Ruth Madeley, Colin McFarlane, Alexander Devrient,
    Adrian Lukis, Mei Mac, Patrick Baladi, Francesca Corney, and
    Vincent Franklin.

    The series is co-written by Davies and Pete McTighe (Kerblam!, Lucky
    Day).

    The War Between the Land and the Sea will screen on BBC1, BBC
    iPlayer, and internationally on Disney+... at some point in the
    future, we think/hope. Could it be the last gasp of this era of
    Doctor Who? It seems likely.



    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who-spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>





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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Sun Aug 17 18:57:23 2025
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    Verily, in article <107ttjn$2n75v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
    The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the
    Sea
    Devils vs UNIT,


    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who-spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>

    Hunh. That doesn't sound appealing to me.

    The Brig's daughter may be in it. A Doctor may appear. Not sure I'll
    bother with it, though.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 14:14:47 2025
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    On 2025-08-18 01:57:23 +0000, Melissa Hollingsworth said:
    Verily, in article <107ttjn$2n75v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the Sea
    Devils vs UNIT,

    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who-spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>


    Hunh. That doesn't sound appealing to me.

    The Brig's daughter may be in it. A Doctor may appear. Not sure I'll
    bother with it, though.

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>




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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Mon Aug 18 03:24:55 2025
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    In article <107ttjn$2n75v$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:



    Airdate of Doctor Who Spin-Off, The War Between The Land And The Sea,
    "Up In The Air"
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Russell T Davies, showrunner of Doctor Who, says that spin-off
    programme, The War Between the Land and the Sea, is "even better"
    than the production team thought it would be... but no one has any
    idea when it'll air on TV and Disney+.

    On the Pilot TV podcast, Davies enthuses: "Sometimes you finish a
    show and they're like, 'Great, good, we did a really good job'...
    Sometimes they go through post-production where everything comes in.
    You work on the effects, on the music and the grading of it.
    Sometimes magic happens - and it's happening with this. It's even
    better than we thought it was! I'm delighted with it."

    However, he says the airdate is "up in the air", so we don't know if
    we'll see the series any time soon.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the Sea
    Devils vs UNIT, though the former looks rather different to anything
    we've seen before, looking more humanoid than appearances in, say,
    Warriors of the Deep and Legend of the Sea Devils. Otherwise, it's
    an aquatic species coming into conflict with mankind.

    The show features Gugu Mbatha-Raw (who previously played Martha
    Jones' sister, Tish) as Salt, and Russell Tovey (Voyage of the
    Damned) as Barclay, alongside Jemma Redgrave as Kate Stewart. It
    also stars Ruth Madeley, Colin McFarlane, Alexander Devrient,
    Adrian Lukis, Mei Mac, Patrick Baladi, Francesca Corney, and
    Vincent Franklin.

    The series is co-written by Davies and Pete McTighe (Kerblam!, Lucky
    Day).

    The War Between the Land and the Sea will screen on BBC1, BBC
    iPlayer, and internationally on Disney+... at some point in the
    future, we think/hope. Could it be the last gasp of this era of
    Doctor Who? It seems likely.



    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who-spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>






    Or not.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Mon Aug 18 03:25:16 2025
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    In article <MPG.430c28626657b1e4989833@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <107ttjn$2n75v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
    The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the
    Sea
    Devils vs UNIT,


    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who-spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>

    Hunh. That doesn't sound appealing to me.

    The Brig's daughter may be in it. A Doctor may appear. Not sure I'll
    bother with it, though.


    That is what most are saying.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 03:26:53 2025
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    In article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-08-18 01:57:23 +0000, Melissa Hollingsworth said:
    Verily, in article <107ttjn$2n75v$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the Sea
    Devils vs UNIT,

    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who-spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>


    Hunh. That doesn't sound appealing to me.

    The Brig's daughter may be in it. A Doctor may appear. Not sure I'll
    bother with it, though.

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    Just after the end of Relaity War.


    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>




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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Mon Aug 18 12:55:15 2025
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    In article <107ttjn$2n75v$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    Russell T Davies, showrunner of Doctor Who, says that spin-off
    programme, The War Between the Land and the Sea, is "even better"
    than the production team thought it would be... but no one has any
    idea when it'll air on TV and Disney+.

    IOW, he's lying.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Mon Aug 18 13:15:42 2025
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    In article <LRSdnTYLCs26QT_1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <107ttjn$2n75v$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:

    Russell T Davies, showrunner of Doctor Who, says that spin-off
    programme, The War Between the Land and the Sea, is "even better"
    than the production team thought it would be... but no one has any
    idea when it'll air on TV and Disney+.

    IOW, he's lying.


    Looks like Fire RTD is in order.

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Mon Aug 18 14:24:37 2025
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    On 18/08/2025 01:54, Your Name wrote:



    -a-a Airdate of Doctor Who Spin-Off, The War Between The Land And The Sea,
    -a-a "Up In The Air"
    -a-a ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    -a-a Russell T Davies, showrunner of Doctor Who, says that spin-off
    -a-a programme, The War Between the Land and the Sea, is "even better"
    -a-a than the production team thought it would be... but no one has any
    -a-a idea when it'll air on TV and Disney+.

    Even better than they thought it would be? You mean they thought it
    would be absolute crap, but now it's just crap?

    Does this mean there had to be numerous reshoots in order to make it
    appear coherent? Is this the reason for the delay?


    -a-a On the Pilot TV podcast, Davies enthuses: "Sometimes you finish a
    -a-a show and they're like, 'Great, good, we did a really good job'...
    -a-a Sometimes they go through post-production where everything comes in.
    -a-a You work on the effects, on the music and the grading of it.
    -a-a Sometimes magic happens - and it's happening with this. It's even
    -a-a better than we thought it was! I'm delighted with it."

    So basically the story and the acting is absolute crap.


    -a-a However, he says the airdate is "up in the air", so we don't know if
    -a-a we'll see the series any time soon.


    So midnight on a day hardly anyone watches TV like they did with Class.

    -a-a The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the Sea
    -a-a Devils vs UNIT, though the former looks rather different to anything
    -a-a we've seen before, looking more humanoid than appearances in, say,
    -a-a Warriors of the Deep and Legend of the Sea Devils. Otherwise, it's
    -a-a an aquatic species coming into conflict with mankind.

    -a-a The show features Gugu Mbatha-Raw (who previously played Martha
    -a-a Jones' sister, Tish) as Salt, and Russell Tovey (Voyage of the
    -a-a Damned) as Barclay, alongside Jemma Redgrave as Kate Stewart. It

    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who behaves
    like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man hating bitch,
    surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and other DEI hires?

    -a-a also stars Ruth Madeley, Colin McFarlane, Alexander Devrient,
    -a-a Adrian Lukis, Mei Mac, Patrick Baladi, Francesca Corney, and
    -a-a Vincent Franklin.


    Ah yes, people who imbue total incompetence and total lack of capability
    to actually do the job of protecting the world from coming to harm, or
    follow orders and respect the chain of command.

    -a-a The series is co-written by Davies and Pete McTighe (Kerblam!, Lucky
    -a-a Day).

    Ah yes, the writer of the lowest rating episode ever.


    -a-a The War Between the Land and the Sea will screen on BBC1, BBC
    -a-a iPlayer, and internationally on Disney+... at some point in the
    -a-a future, we think/hope. Could it be the last gasp of this era of
    -a-a Doctor Who? It seems likely.


    I'm guessing that Disney+ doesn't want to show it because if it did it
    would lose money by having to promote it and it would do irreparable
    damage to its reputation which is already badly damaged as it is through
    its attempts to sexually groom children. Maybe they want to do what
    Warner did to Batgirl by claiming it as a tax write-off if they don't
    release it.


    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who- spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>
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  • From solar penguin@solar.penguin@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 18 13:53:44 2025
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    The True loon would like to be told:

    On 18/08/2025 01:54, Your Name wrote:

    -a-a The show features Gugu Mbatha-Raw (who previously played
    Martha Jones' sister, Tish) as Salt, and Russell Tovey (Voyage
    -a-a of the Damned) as Barclay, alongside Jemma Redgrave as
    Kate Stewart.

    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who
    behaves like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man
    hating bitch, surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and
    other DEI hires?


    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    (OTOH yourCOll be watching every episode just so you can complain
    about how much you hate watching it.)
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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 07:04:20 2025
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    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship between Barclay
    and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.
    --
    A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.drwho on Mon Aug 18 14:22:44 2025
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    In article <107v9il$32cf7$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/08/2025 01:54, Your Name wrote:



    -a-a Airdate of Doctor Who Spin-Off, The War Between The Land And The Sea, >> -a-a "Up In The Air"
    -a-a --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -a-a Russell T Davies, showrunner of Doctor Who, says that spin-off
    -a-a programme, The War Between the Land and the Sea, is "even better"
    -a-a than the production team thought it would be... but no one has any
    -a-a idea when it'll air on TV and Disney+.

    Even better than they thought it would be? You mean they thought it
    would be absolute crap, but now it's just crap?

    Does this mean there had to be numerous reshoots in order to make it
    appear coherent? Is this the reason for the delay?


    -a-a On the Pilot TV podcast, Davies enthuses: "Sometimes you finish a
    -a-a show and they're like, 'Great, good, we did a really good job'...
    -a-a Sometimes they go through post-production where everything comes in. >> -a-a You work on the effects, on the music and the grading of it.
    -a-a Sometimes magic happens - and it's happening with this. It's even
    -a-a better than we thought it was! I'm delighted with it."

    So basically the story and the acting is absolute crap.


    -a-a However, he says the airdate is "up in the air", so we don't know if >> -a-a we'll see the series any time soon.


    So midnight on a day hardly anyone watches TV like they did with Class.

    -a-a The War Between the Land and the Sea is expected to feature the Sea
    -a-a Devils vs UNIT, though the former looks rather different to anything >> -a-a we've seen before, looking more humanoid than appearances in, say,
    -a-a Warriors of the Deep and Legend of the Sea Devils. Otherwise, it's
    -a-a an aquatic species coming into conflict with mankind.

    -a-a The show features Gugu Mbatha-Raw (who previously played Martha
    -a-a Jones' sister, Tish) as Salt, and Russell Tovey (Voyage of the
    -a-a Damned) as Barclay, alongside Jemma Redgrave as Kate Stewart. It

    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who behaves >like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man hating bitch, >surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and other DEI hires?

    -a-a also stars Ruth Madeley, Colin McFarlane, Alexander Devrient,
    -a-a Adrian Lukis, Mei Mac, Patrick Baladi, Francesca Corney, and
    -a-a Vincent Franklin.


    Ah yes, people who imbue total incompetence and total lack of capability
    to actually do the job of protecting the world from coming to harm, or >follow orders and respect the chain of command.

    -a-a The series is co-written by Davies and Pete McTighe (Kerblam!, Lucky >> -a-a Day).

    Ah yes, the writer of the lowest rating episode ever.


    -a-a The War Between the Land and the Sea will screen on BBC1, BBC
    -a-a iPlayer, and internationally on Disney+... at some point in the
    -a-a future, we think/hope. Could it be the last gasp of this era of
    -a-a Doctor Who? It seems likely.


    I'm guessing that Disney+ doesn't want to show it because if it did it
    would lose money by having to promote it and it would do irreparable
    damage to its reputation which is already badly damaged as it is through
    its attempts to sexually groom children. Maybe they want to do what
    Warner did to Batgirl by claiming it as a tax write-off if they don't >release it.


    <https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2025/08/18/airdate-of-doctor-who-
    spin-off-the-war-between-the-land-and-the-sea-up-in-the-air/>


    RTD and the disney+ deal is not going well.

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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 15:26:33 2025
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    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship between
    Barclay and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.

    I suppose there had to be some sort of a relationship in it
    somewhere didn't there? It's not like we could have a drama
    telling a story about a conflict between humans and sea reptiles
    without it...

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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 18 15:37:39 2025
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    On 18/08/2025 14:53, solar idiot wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/08/2025 01:54, Your Name wrote:

    -a-a The show features Gugu Mbatha-Raw (who previously played
    Martha Jones' sister, Tish) as Salt, and Russell Tovey (Voyage
    -a-a of the Damned) as Barclay, alongside Jemma Redgrave as
    Kate Stewart.

    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who
    behaves like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man
    hating bitch, surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and
    other DEI hires?


    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    It isn't an interpretation. It's a fact which emerges from the script
    because that is how the character is written. She release a monster
    inside UNIT HQ which could have killed everyone so that she could
    sexually harass, demean, and insult Conrad because he was a man when she
    could have just ordered the security guards there to shoot him on the
    spot the moment the lift doors opened.


    (OTOH yourCOll be watching every episode just so you can complain
    about how much you hate watching it.)


    I will only be watching it so that others don't have to.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 18 14:40:57 2025
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    In article <107vb98$33gvc$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The True loon would like to be told:

    On 18/08/2025 01:54, Your Name wrote:

    -a-a The show features Gugu Mbatha-Raw (who previously played
    Martha Jones' sister, Tish) as Salt, and Russell Tovey (Voyage
    -a-a of the Damned) as Barclay, alongside Jemma Redgrave as
    Kate Stewart.

    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who
    behaves like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man
    hating bitch, surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and
    other DEI hires?


    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    (OTOH yourCOll be watching every episode just so you can complain
    about how much you hate watching it.)


    I wonder if He is still love the Doctor's Wife.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 14:42:49 2025
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    In article <MPG.430cd2bec7d9918b989834@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship between Barclay
    and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.


    Most are.


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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 15:45:19 2025
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    On 18/08/2025 15:26, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship between
    Barclay and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.

    I suppose there had to be some sort of a relationship in it
    somewhere didn't there? It's not like we could have a drama

    The disgusting woke perverts have to find a way to sexually groom kids somehow.
    telling a story about a conflict between humans and sea reptiles
    without it...


    Not with a bunch of sick, perverted, soap opera hacks writing.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 14:46:54 2025
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    In article <107vea0$34b8u$3@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 18/08/2025 15:26, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship between
    Barclay and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.

    I suppose there had to be some sort of a relationship in it
    somewhere didn't there? It's not like we could have a drama

    The disgusting woke perverts have to find a way to sexually groom kids >somehow.
    telling a story about a conflict between humans and sea reptiles
    without it...


    Not with a bunch of sick, perverted, soap opera hacks writing.


    Hacks is the key word!


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  • From solar penguin@solar.penguin@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 18 17:16:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv


    The True loon refused to listen:

    On 18/08/2025 14:53, solar idiot wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:


    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who
    behaves like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man
    hating bitch, surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and
    other DEI hires?


    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    It isn't an interpretation. It's a fact which emerges from the script because that is how the character is written. She release a monster
    inside UNIT HQ which could have killed everyone so that she could
    sexually harass, demean, and insult Conrad because he was a man when she could have just ordered the security guards there to shoot him on the
    spot the moment the lift doors opened.


    Again, not everyone shares that interpretation.

    What was the point of asking us why we would watch it if yourCOre
    not going to accept the answer!?!
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 18 18:29:42 2025
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    On 18/08/2025 18:16, solar imbecile wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/08/2025 14:53, solar idiot wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:


    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who
    behaves like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man
    hating bitch, surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and
    other DEI hires?


    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    It isn't an interpretation. It's a fact which emerges from the script
    because that is how the character is written. She release a monster
    inside UNIT HQ which could have killed everyone so that she could
    sexually harass, demean, and insult Conrad because he was a man when she
    could have just ordered the security guards there to shoot him on the
    spot the moment the lift doors opened.


    Again, not everyone shares that interpretation.


    It isn't an interpretation. It's an absolute fact. The sexist bigot set
    a monster loose upon UNIT and the whole world and then tried to blame
    Conrad with putting the world in danger, when it was she who had put the
    world in danger because of her hatred of men.

    What was the point of asking us why we would watch it if yourCOre
    not going to accept the answer!?!


    It was a rhetorical question.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 20:12:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/08/2025 15:26, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship
    between Barclay and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.

    I suppose there had to be some sort of a relationship in it
    somewhere didn't there?

    The disgusting woke perverts have to find a way to sexually
    groom kids somehow.

    Yeah, reptiles and humans mating seemed to go down well last
    time, so why not?

    It's not like we could have a drama telling a story about
    a conflict between humans and sea reptiles without it...

    Not with a bunch of sick, perverted, soap opera hacks writing.

    From the trailer I expect the worst, but as always, I hope for
    the best...

    It was only a short trailer so I hope when "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" airs it turns out to be an enjoyable story.



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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Tue Aug 19 10:31:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 2025-08-18 14:26:33 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship between
    Barclay and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.

    I suppose there had to be some sort of a relationship in it
    somewhere didn't there? It's not like we could have a drama
    telling a story about a conflict between humans and sea reptiles
    without it...

    It's just a rip-off of the old Gerry Anderson series "Stingray". ;-)

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv on Mon Aug 18 23:27:11 2025
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    In article <xn0p9p7y97riymy002@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/08/2025 15:26, Blueshirt wrote:
    Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    Verily, in article <107u2an$2o8im$1@dont-email.me>, did
    YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

    A short teaser trailer was released about two months ago.

    The War Between the Land and the Sea
    trailer (50secs)
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-aP7V9XtE>

    Thanks. Looks like a lot of focus on the relationship
    between Barclay and that one Silurian. I'll probably pass.

    I suppose there had to be some sort of a relationship in it
    somewhere didn't there?

    The disgusting woke perverts have to find a way to sexually
    groom kids somehow.

    Yeah, reptiles and humans mating seemed to go down well last
    time, so why not?

    It's not like we could have a drama telling a story about
    a conflict between humans and sea reptiles without it...

    Not with a bunch of sick, perverted, soap opera hacks writing.

    From the trailer I expect the worst, but as always, I hope for
    the best...

    It was only a short trailer so I hope when "The War Between the
    Land and the Sea" airs it turns out to be an enjoyable story.




    Whenever it airs.
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  • From solar penguin@solar.penguin@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Tue Aug 19 05:41:35 2025
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    The True loon was lost as usual:

    On 18/08/2025 18:16, solar imbecile wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/08/2025 14:53, solar idiot wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:


    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who
    behaves like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man
    hating bitch, surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and
    other DEI hires?


    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    It isn't an interpretation. It's a fact which emerges from the script
    because that is how the character is written. She release a monster
    inside UNIT HQ which could have killed everyone so that she could
    sexually harass, demean, and insult Conrad because he was a man when she >>> could have just ordered the security guards there to shoot him on the
    spot the moment the lift doors opened.


    Again, not everyone shares that interpretation.


    It isn't an interpretation.

    And you accused me of not paying attention in English lessons!?!

    It's an absolute fact. The sexist bigot set
    a monster loose upon UNIT and the whole world and then tried to blame
    Conrad with putting the world in danger, when it was she who had put the world in danger because of her hatred of men.

    Even if that were true, it would just mean that your interpretation
    was the same as the authorrCOs, that you interpreted it in the intended
    way. But thatrCOs still interpretation. Interpreting something right
    is still interpreting it. The authorrCOs intended interpretation is still an interpretation.

    (And yourCOve no evidence that this was the authorrCOs intended
    interpretation anyway.)
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    solar penguin
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  • From Hornplayer9599@Hornplayer9599@aol.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Tue Aug 19 06:27:53 2025
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    On 8/18/2025 08:53, solar penguin wrote:



    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    (OTOH yourCOll be watching every episode just so you can complain
    about how much you hate watching it.)


    He'll be watching, "so that others don't have to". He's still trying
    for the martyr designation.
    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Tue Aug 19 14:31:54 2025
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    In article <10812qf$3igjm$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    The True loon was lost as usual:

    On 18/08/2025 18:16, solar imbecile wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 18/08/2025 14:53, solar idiot wrote:

    The True Doctor wrote:


    Why would anyone want to watch a show fronted by a character who
    behaves like an incompetent, self centred, misandristic, man
    hating bitch, surrounded by a bunch of homosexuals and
    other DEI hires?


    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    It isn't an interpretation. It's a fact which emerges from the script
    because that is how the character is written. She release a monster
    inside UNIT HQ which could have killed everyone so that she could
    sexually harass, demean, and insult Conrad because he was a man when she >>>> could have just ordered the security guards there to shoot him on the
    spot the moment the lift doors opened.


    Again, not everyone shares that interpretation.


    It isn't an interpretation.

    And you accused me of not paying attention in English lessons!?!

    It's an absolute fact. The sexist bigot set
    a monster loose upon UNIT and the whole world and then tried to blame
    Conrad with putting the world in danger, when it was she who had put the
    world in danger because of her hatred of men.

    Even if that were true, it would just mean that your interpretation
    was the same as the authorrCOs, that you interpreted it in the intended
    way. But thatrCOs still interpretation. Interpreting something right
    is still interpreting it. The authorrCOs intended interpretation is still an >interpretation.

    (And yourCOve no evidence that this was the authorrCOs intended >interpretation anyway.)


    Yes Melissa, radw on a good day.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Tue Aug 19 14:37:43 2025
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    In article <ZcZoQ.4$dq31.2@fx05.ams4>,
    Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:
    On 8/18/2025 08:53, solar penguin wrote:



    Simple. ItrCOs because they donrCOt agree with that interpretation
    of the characters. IrCOm surprised you needed to ask.

    (OTOH yourCOll be watching every episode just so you can complain
    about how much you hate watching it.)


    He'll be watching, "so that others don't have to". He's still trying
    for the martyr designation.


    Honk you!

    --

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  • From Melissa Hollingsworth@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Tue Aug 19 08:09:22 2025
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    Verily, in article <10821sq$2m7l$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Yes Melissa, radw on a good day.


    This is normal Usenet. :)
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    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv on Tue Aug 19 15:15:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <MPG.430e33742dc15d6f989846@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10821sq$2m7l$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>, did >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca deliver unto us this message:
    Yes Melissa, radw on a good day.


    This is normal Usenet. :)


    Exactly!

    --
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    depend on the support of Paul.
    --George Bernard Shaw

    A definition of socialism.
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