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Perhaps a bit off-topic for .written, but I went to see
Dune 2 last weekend. I quite enjoyed it (orders of magnitude
better than the the 1984 version with Sting, and better than
the 2000 miniseries).
It was an adept telling of the second half of the first novel,
terminating with the emperor kneeling to Muad'dib.
The best part was Paul's first worm-ride (done as a practical
effect rather than visual magic), but the rest of the film
(aside the modern cinemetographic tendancy to poor contrast
and lighting - not as bad as the first film, but still)
was excellent.
The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
one of which I think should not have been made in this time
and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
premiers.
On 3/6/2024 12:04 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Perhaps a bit off-topic for .written, but I went to see
Dune 2 last weekend.-a I quite enjoyed it (orders of magnitude
better than the the 1984 version with Sting, and better than
the 2000 miniseries).
It was an adept telling of the second half of the first novel,
terminating with the emperor kneeling to Muad'dib.
The best part was Paul's first worm-ride (done as a practical
effect rather than visual magic), but the rest of the film
(aside the modern cinemetographic tendancy to poor contrast
and lighting - not as bad as the first film, but still)
was excellent.
The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
one of which I think should not have been made in this time
and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
premiers.
Thanks !-a My 85 year old Dad and I are going to see it on Friday.
I am hoping for a complete series.
The director definitely want to do Dune Messiah.
But after that, who knows. Things get weird with
half-worm half human rulers, and gholas.
In article <uscmfk$1422v$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
The director definitely want to do Dune Messiah.
But after that, who knows. Things get weird with
half-worm half human rulers, and gholas.
I liked Dune Messiah. Children of Dune, however...
in the memorable words of old time usenetter Brett
Jolly (Trolly? I forget...) "My willing suspension
of disbelief chewed a hole in the back of my skull
to escape, and fled shrieking into the night."
That's the last Dune I ever read. God-Emperor of
Dune, as near as I could tell, was everything I
hated about Children of Dune to the fourth power.
In article <usleon$373ft$1@dont-email.me>,
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
In article <uscmfk$1422v$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
The director definitely want to do Dune Messiah.
But after that, who knows. Things get weird with
half-worm half human rulers, and gholas.
I liked Dune Messiah. Children of Dune, however...
in the memorable words of old time usenetter Brett
Jolly (Trolly? I forget...) "My willing suspension
of disbelief chewed a hole in the back of my skull
to escape, and fled shrieking into the night."
That's the last Dune I ever read. God-Emperor of
Dune, as near as I could tell, was everything I
hated about Children of Dune to the fourth power.
OTOH, I hated DM, and rather liked COD & GEOD, although apparently
not sufficiently to follow things after that.
On 3/10/24 10:44 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:That's a good summary.
In article <usleon$373ft$1@dont-email.me>,
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
In article <uscmfk$1422v$2@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
The director definitely want to do Dune Messiah.
But after that, who knows. Things get weird with
half-worm half human rulers, and gholas.
I liked Dune Messiah. Children of Dune, however...
in the memorable words of old time usenetter Brett
Jolly (Trolly? I forget...) "My willing suspension
of disbelief chewed a hole in the back of my skull
to escape, and fled shrieking into the night."
That's the last Dune I ever read. God-Emperor of
Dune, as near as I could tell, was everything I
hated about Children of Dune to the fourth power.
OTOH, I hated DM, and rather liked COD & GEOD, although apparently
not sufficiently to follow things after that.
In my very humble opinion, you didn't miss much. A million years ago
here in rasfw, I mentioned Heretics of Dune (aka My Own Private Duncan >Idaho) as the worst SFF "turkey" I had finished reading. For the life of
me, I don't know why I then went on to read Chapterhouse: Dune, but I
did, and it was not much better. At this remove, I don't remember a
whole lot of either one - my sense is that they weren't "throw at the
wall" bad, but they were really disappointing.
In my very humble opinion, you didn't miss much. A million years ago
here in rasfw, I mentioned Heretics of Dune (aka My Own Private Duncan >Idaho) as the worst SFF "turkey" I had finished reading. For the life of
me, I don't know why I then went on to read Chapterhouse: Dune, but I
did, and it was not much better. At this remove, I don't remember a
whole lot of either one - my sense is that they weren't "throw at the
wall" bad, but they were really disappointing.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:40:10 -0400, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
wrote:
I don't know why I then went on to read Chapterhouse: Dune, but IIs that one of those "Dune" books written by Herbert's son and a ghost >writer?
did, and it was not much better. At this remove, I don't remember a
whole lot of either one - my sense is that they weren't "throw at the >>wall" bad, but they were really disappointing.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:40:10 -0400, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
wrote:
In my very humble opinion, you didn't miss much. A million years agoIs that one of those "Dune" books written by Herbert's son and a ghost writer?
here in rasfw, I mentioned Heretics of Dune (aka My Own Private Duncan
Idaho) as the worst SFF "turkey" I had finished reading. For the life of
me, I don't know why I then went on to read Chapterhouse: Dune, but I
did, and it was not much better. At this remove, I don't remember a
whole lot of either one - my sense is that they weren't "throw at the
wall" bad, but they were really disappointing.
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:40:10 -0400, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> >>wrote:
I don't know why I then went on to read Chapterhouse: Dune, but IIs that one of those "Dune" books written by Herbert's son and a ghost >>writer?
did, and it was not much better. At this remove, I don't remember a >>>whole lot of either one - my sense is that they weren't "throw at the >>>wall" bad, but they were really disappointing.
It claims to have been written by Frank Herbert. I would have hoped a
ghost writer would have done better.
On 3/17/24 2:36 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:I would have liked to learn more about the Honored Matres, but my
On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:40:10 -0400, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
wrote:
In my very humble opinion, you didn't miss much. A million years agoIs that one of those "Dune" books written by Herbert's son and a ghost
here in rasfw, I mentioned Heretics of Dune (aka My Own Private Duncan
Idaho) as the worst SFF "turkey" I had finished reading. For the life of >>> me, I don't know why I then went on to read Chapterhouse: Dune, but I
did, and it was not much better. At this remove, I don't remember a
whole lot of either one - my sense is that they weren't "throw at the
wall" bad, but they were really disappointing.
writer?
No - Or at least, Frank Herbert passed away in 1986, and Heretics of
Dune & Chapterhouse: Dune were published in 1984 & 1985 respectively. >Chapterhouse was the last Dune novel I ever read - and it is very likely
to remain so.