• Re: Six Lost Worlds: The Dramatic Adaptations of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Novel (film comments by Mark R. Leeper)

    From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.movies on Sun Oct 9 09:29:20 2022
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    On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 08:25:11 -0700 (PDT), Mark Leeper
    <mleeper@optonline.net> wrote:

    Six Lost Worlds: The Dramatic Adaptations of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Novel (film comments by Mark R. Leeper)

    [Originally published in Argentus, Number 3, Summer 2003]

    <snippo; I have a few remarks on the first two>

    The silent 1925 version is, indeed, much closer to the book than the
    1960 version, including the outer wrapper: the protagonist's going on
    the expedition to impress his sweetie, only to find on his return that
    she has married a bank clerk and her desire for a man of adventure was
    merely a "girlish whim". And in other ways as well, as you noted.

    It is marred by the dialog it assigns to Zambo, the comic relief, an African-American from the Deep South who is heavily stereotyped and,
    for unexplained reasons, is somehow working in the Amazon.

    But the stop-motion is, for its time, fantastic.

    The 1960 version has a few problems. Unlike the 1925 version, where
    the obligatory (in a movie) female member of the expedition is a
    trained explorer herself, the female /here/ is very much a fluff-head.
    The dinosaur action is, however, first-rate -- because (as you noted)
    they are not stop-motion dinosaurs but lizards wearing costumes. I
    don't recall if the film was monitored by an SPCA. Had they ditched
    the costumes and modified the script to talk about "giant lizards"
    instead of "dinosaurs", they would have avoided a lot of the
    criticism. (I have read a suggestion that this happened because CB
    DeMille was sucking all the special effects money out of the studio to
    make /Cleopatra/, leaving O'Brien with few options.)

    OTOH, the comic relief here is the storekeeper, and he is just a
    greedy, grubby opportunist.

    Incidentally, the DVD I purchased for /The Lost World/ contains both
    versions. The 1925 version is 75 minutes long and claims to have been
    restored from the original 35mm negative. In addition to telling you
    this when the disc starts up, starting the movie tells it to you in
    more detail before the actual film starts. The people who did this are
    clearly proud of their work. This leaves it, what, 18 minutes short
    (Maltin gives 93 minutes)? The disk also has 9 minutes of "Outtakes".
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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to rec.arts.sf.movies on Sun Mar 3 21:43:56 2024
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    Paul S Person wrote:

    On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 08:25:11 -0700 (PDT), Mark Leeper wrote:

    Six Lost Worlds: The Dramatic Adaptations of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Novel (film comments by Mark R. Leeper)

    [Originally published in Argentus, Number 3, Summer 2003]

    <snippo; I have a few remarks on the first two>



    The silent 1925 version is, indeed, much closer to the book than the
    1960 version, including the outer wrapper: the protagonist's going on
    the expedition to impress his sweetie, only to find on his return that
    she has married a bank clerk and her desire for a man of adventure was
    merely a "girlish whim". And in other ways as well, as you noted. ................
    But the stop-motion is, for its time, fantastic.


    The dinosaur action is, however, first-rate -- because (as you noted)
    they are not stop-motion dinosaurs but lizards wearing costumes. ...........




    "In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
    development was the disintegration, under Christian
    influence, of classical conceptions of the family and of family right."

    ---------------- an interesting quote.




    Wow. both of you guys know what you're talking about!!!


    i think .... Most younger folks today (say, under 40 y.o.) have trouble
    being interested in the Older Sci.Fi. films


    i remember watching Disney's original 1954 [20000 Leagues Under the Sea]
    and was blown-away by the quality not found in the recent Sci.Fi. films


    _________________20000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954 film) https://en.wikipedia.org

    It stars Kirk Douglas, James Mason, Paul Lukas, and Peter Lorre. Photographed in Technicolor, the film was one of the first feature-length motion pictures to be ...
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