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It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
https://file770.com/montreal-in-2027-worldcon-bid-wins-site-selection-vote/
On 8/16/2025 5:23 PM, Gary McGath wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be in
Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in a day,
assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
https://file770.com/montreal-in-2027-worldcon-bid-wins-site-selection-vote/
I may well do so too.
It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon
will be in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can
drive there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still
feasible in 2027.
It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be
in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in
a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
In article <107qsrs$1ucf8$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be
in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in
a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying. Train travel much mote relaxing and nice scenery, too. (And I don't drive.)
garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will
be in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive
there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
2027.
I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying. Train travel much
mote relaxing and nice scenery, too. (And I don't drive.)
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will
be in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive
there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
2027.
I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying. Train travel much
mote relaxing and nice scenery, too. (And I don't drive.)
I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
to Europe, and presumably also to Asia. But unfortunately, there's no railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
summit meeting. That way something productive would have come from it.
On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising:-a The 2027 Worldcon will
be in Montreal on September 2-6.-a I like this since I can drive
there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
2027.
I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.-a Train travel much
mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.-a (And I don't drive.)
I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.-a But unfortunately, there's no
railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
summit meeting.-a That way something productive would have come from it.
Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.
America, Netherlands, that is.
On 8/17/25 11:22 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <107qsrs$1ucf8$1@dont-email.me>, garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) >> wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising: The 2027 Worldcon will be
in Montreal on September 2-6. I like this since I can drive there in
a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in 2027.
I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying. Train travel much mote
relaxing and nice scenery, too. (And I don't drive.)
Neither does my friend in Massachusetts, but if we decide to go, I'll
drive four hours to her place; hang out overnight, then drive four hours >with her to Montreal.
On 8/17/2025 2:58 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising:-a The 2027 Worldcon will
be in Montreal on September 2-6.-a I like this since I can drive
there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
2027.
I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.-a Train travel much
mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.-a (And I don't drive.)
I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.-a But unfortunately, there's no
railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
summit meeting.-a That way something productive would have come from it.
Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.
America, Netherlands, that is.
I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.
Cryptoengineer wrote:
I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.
There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
border between it is a river.
On 8/17/2025 2:58 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
It's now official, though not surprising:-a The 2027 Worldcon will
be in Montreal on September 2-6.-a I like this since I can drive
there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
2027.
I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.-a Train travel much
mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.-a (And I don't drive.)
I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.-a But unfortunately, there's no
railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
summit meeting.-a That way something productive would have come from it.
Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.
America, Netherlands, that is.
I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.
I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
to Europe, and presumably also to Asia. But unfortunately, there's no railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
summit meeting. That way something productive would have come from it.
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
Cryptoengineer wrote:
I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.
There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
border between it is a river.
I live in Vienna. I've never been to Austria.
There really is a land border between Denmark and Canada. It's on a
small uninhabited island that those two nations share.
I don't think you can get to the Russian side of the Bering Strait
by rail. About the closest you can get is Yakutsk.
There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
border between it is a river.
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the
border between it is a river.
Is there something rotten there?
I live in Vienna. I've never been to Austria.
UK through the Chunnel
kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
UK through the Chunnel
That name never caught on, it's always the Channel tunnel.
In article <107tlb6$3bb$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
I live in Vienna. I've never been to Austria.
I spent my 70th birthday in the original Vienna having Wiener schnitzel.
On 8/18/25 12:22 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <107tlb6$3bb$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. >> Lynch) wrote:
I live in Vienna. I've never been to Austria.
I spent my 70th birthday in the original Vienna having Wiener schnitzel.
I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.
Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
UK through the Chunnel
That name never caught on, it's always the Channel tunnel.
In that case, it's just as well that a tunnel under the Bering Strait
has never been built. I would have embarrassed myself by calling it
the Strunnell.
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.
I'm reminded of _Violent Is the Word for Curly_, a 1938 Three Stooges
short in which a professor says he plans to return to Hamburg on the
Clipper. Curly, mishearing it, says he never heard of a hamburger
with a zipper. It's noteworthy as containing the first-ever music
video. It can be viewed for free on YouTube.
Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
(Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
Kentucky.)
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
I once had a hamburger in Hamburg.
Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
(Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
Kentucky.)
That's much farther away. You might as well have chili in Chile if
you're going to do that.
Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
of a Bering Strait Tunnel
(<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and <https://www.interbering.com>), among others.
Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a
pastry similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and
I'm told it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons,
JFK's audience wasn't confused.
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
of a Bering Strait Tunnel
(<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and
<https://www.interbering.com>), among others.
YASID: I seem to recall an old SF story about such a construction project. It discovered ancient remains of a similar project, which proved to be the results of time travel. Does anyone recall this? Thanks.
Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry >similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >wasn't confused.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
of a Bering Strait Tunnel
(<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and
<https://www.interbering.com>), among others.
YASID: I seem to recall an old SF story about such a construction project. >> It discovered ancient remains of a similar project, which proved to be the >> results of time travel. Does anyone recall this? Thanks.
As they say, "DuckDuckGo is your friend." "Subterrestrial" by
Michael McBride.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
(Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
Kentucky.)
That's much farther away. You might as well have chili in Chile if
you're going to do that.
In article <1080fgi$se6$1@panix3.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
(Frankfurt is a city in Germany. Frankfort is the capital of
Kentucky.)
That's much farther away. You might as well have chili in Chile if
you're going to do that.
Not for me it isn't.
As it happened, I spent a few days in Frankfurt on my way back from
Vienna. Didn't have any frankfurters, though.
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience
wasn't confused.
Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.
On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >> wasn't confused.
Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.
You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)
On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Gary McGath-a <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >>> wasn't confused.
Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.
You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)
On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >>> wasn't confused.
Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.
You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)
Don't expect to get anything other than a blank stare if you ask for
an
English Muffin in England.
(Muffin the Mule was a different thing, but not an illegal offence).
On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Having a Berliner in Berlin is more difficult. That name for a pastry
similar to the American jelly doughnut is a regional one, and I'm told
it isn't much used in Berlin. For that and other reasons, JFK's audience >>> wasn't confused.
Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.
You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows why.)
On 8/20/25 2:41 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
On 8/18/25 11:51 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:It's earl-y, but I still know this one.
Gary McGath-a <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Perhaps, but I did have a Berlinerweisse in Berlin.
You could also have a sandwich in Hawaii. (Points to anyone who knows
why.)
In NJ we have Egg Harbor and, if you stretch it, Cranbury.
For me, the shortest trip of this kind would be to have a sandwich in Sandwich, NH, possibly on rye bread from Rye, NH.
I don't know how far Sandwich is to you, but Sandwich in Kent is
about 140km due east of here. (I presume it is the one associated
with the Earl of Sandwich, after whom the snack is named.
Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
Is the next one on the bucket list to have a frankfurter in Frankfort?
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home. There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary
Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them
spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of
the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in
the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of
cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and
wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
On 8/19/25 12:01 PM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <1080fgi$se6$1@panix3.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a frankfurter in Frankfurt?
(Frankfurt is a city in Germany.-a Frankfort is the capital of
Kentucky.)
That's much farther away.-a You might as well have chili in Chile if
you're going to do that.
Not for me it isn't.
As it happened, I spent a few days in Frankfurt on my way back from
Vienna.-a-a-a Didn't have any frankfurters, though.
For me, the shortest trip of this kind would be to have a sandwich in Sandwich, NH, possibly on rye bread from Rye, NH.
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the "Chili
Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders who settled
in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in the
city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin
and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often served
with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders
who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and
cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in
the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin
and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild
onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a
foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging
personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.
On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary
Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them
spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of
the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in
the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of
cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and
wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a
foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging
personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or
No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.
I go vegan, with beans and soy crumbles (Nutrela, from the Indian
grocery) to give it texture and more protein. I also make three
different kinds: green (cannellini/Great Northern beans), mole (kidney/ pinto beans), and (imitation) Texas Roadhouse (kidney) (though I suspect when I have used up my current TR blend of spices, I will retire that one).
ObSF: My mole chili recipe was modified from the one LoneStarCon II published.
On 8/22/2025 4:54 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:....
A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
invited into someone's home.-a There doesn't seem to be so
much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
could open a thermos.
Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoctionrCa
I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make
goulash with local ingredients.
San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne,
with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the
"Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th
centuries. While the exact origins are debated, the influence of
Canary Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with
them spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key
part of the story.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Canary Islander Influence:
-a-a-a-a In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to
settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential
in the city's business and political landscape.
They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of
cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and
wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a
foundational element of early chili recipes.
2. The Chili Queens:
-a-a-a-a In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a
popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from
outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging
personalities and flavorful dishes.
Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often
served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San
Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
....
No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or
No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.
If you only raised a bit of a flamewar there must not have been many
Texans on it.