• MT VOID, 09/12/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 11, Whole Number 2397

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    THE MT VOID
    09/12/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 11, Whole Number 2397

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    Topics:
    SON OF KONG (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    3I/Atlas Interstellar Object (comment
    by Gregory Frederick)
    Silent Films at Boskone and Elsewhere (letters
    of comment by Scott Dorsey, Tim Illingworth,
    Gary McGath, Hal Heydt, and Paul Dormer)
    This Week's Reading (MOBY-DICK)
    (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

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    TOPIC: SON OF KONG (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    (A few weeks ago I commented on KING KONG (1933), so I decided to
    do SON OF KONG as well.)

    The "NRA" mentioned at the beginning is not the National Rifle
    Association, but the National Recovery Administration.

    This at least recognizes that Denham would be sued by hundreds of
    people for the damage caused by Kong.

    The boat is definitely docked in New York this time, on the East
    River, since we see the Brooklyn Bridge in the background.

    They sail to Colombo, Singapore, Semarang, Makassar, Lombak, and
    Dakang (which is 1753 miles from Skull Island). All of these are
    real places except for Dakang.

    Hilda is no Fay Wray, but she does seem more real. Even Denham
    notes her "personality". And she clearly an animal lover, since
    her first thought is to free the animals so they can escape the
    fire.

    The local population seems more racially authentic than that of
    Skull Island.

    Where would the supposed treasure on Skull Island have come from?

    Where did Denham get the money to give to Hilda?

    We see basically the same evolution of the shipboard romance as in
    KING KONG.

    This has the familiar trope of the mutinous crew, but somehow they
    just put Englehorn, Denham, Hilda, and Charlie off in a lifeboat.

    And the mutiny is couched in terms of the Russian Revolution
    ("we're through with bosses", references to the bourgeoisie, etc.).

    They land inside a cave/tunnel, which Peter Jackson duplicated in
    the 2005 version.

    The styracosaurus is a more reasonable size than the stegosaurus
    in KING KONG.

    Little Kong's "humorous" gestures are merely annoying.

    Why there is a sudden combination typhoon and earthquake isn't
    clear--the two phenomena are not related.

    How does Little Kong know when to release Denham?

    How do they manage to attract the attention of a ship so far away?
    I suppose it's possible that someone on the ship is scanning the
    ocean, but it seems unlikely.

    Why would Denham and Hilda getting married mean they should get
    only one of three shares instead of two of four?

    [-ecl]

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    TOPIC: 3I/Atlas Interstellar Object (comment by Gregory Frederick)

    The 3I/Atlas interstellar object is really strange. Most comets
    have more water ice compared to CO2 but this object has more CO2
    in it compared to any other comet ever seen. And it has much less
    water ice than comets usually have so it does not have a long tail
    made of sublimated water ice. This tail is seen as a typical comet
    heats up during its approach to the Sun. It does have a very large
    coma made of CO2 though. Mars orbiter may try to image the object
    as it will pass very close to Mars. Also the core seems to
    generate a great deal of energy. Article is listed below.

    <https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ 4-powerful-telescopes-agree-interstellar-025023118.html>

    [-gf]

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    TOPIC: WEDNESDAY (letter of comment by Daniel Kimmel)

    In response to Paul S. R. Chisholm's comments on WEDNESDAY in the
    09/05/25 issue of the MT VOID, Daniel Kimmel writes:

    Correction: Enid is a wolf, not a vampire. [-dk]

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    TOPIC: Silent Films at Boskone and Elsewhere (letters of comment
    by Scott Dorsey, Tim Illingworth, Gary McGath, Hal Heydt, and Paul
    Dormer)

    In response to Gary McGath's comments on silent films with organ
    accompaniment at Boskone in the 09/05/25 issue of the MT VOID,
    Scott Dorsey writes:

    Boskone still does this. This year Boskone ran only a short NACA
    film and the 16mm film from Worldcon with our own Gary McGath
    accompanying on synthesizer, though, and not a full silent
    feature. We hope to have a feature in February.

    For years, John Kiley joked with us that when he died we would
    have to start running transitional films (films that were still
    acted and composed like silent films, but with some dialogue
    added). When he did die in the early 2000s we ran WHITE ZOMBIE
    with Bela Lugosi. [-sd]

    Evelyn responds:

    With no slur intended to Gary, a synthesizer is hardly the same as
    a full-size pipe organ. I know that Boskone 29 (1992) showed
    AELITA with live accompaniment by the Shirim Klezmer Orchestra.
    This had its pros and cons. The accompaniment was good, but the
    fact that there was a twenty-minute intermission between reels
    (for the band to rest) was not so good. [-ecl]

    Tim Illingworth adds:

    John Kiley was also the organist at the Garden, thus making him
    the only person to play for the Red Sox, the Celtics and the
    Bruins. [-ti]

    Gary McGath responds to Scott:

    I'm glad to talk about this whenever you're ready. The only reason
    I stopped accompanying silent films at Boskone was that a lot of
    silents were still under copyright then, and Kino in particular
    charged expensive licensing fees.

    Some early sound films didn't have musical scores, and adding live accompaniment is a possibility. I've heard of the 1931
    FRANKENSTEIN being done this way. However, it's still in
    copyright. [-gmg]

    Hal Heydt notes:

    That copyright should run out the end of next year. (To the best
    of my knowledge, corporate held copyrights run for 95 years. I
    will admit to being fairly surprised that The Mouse Kingdom
    didn't get that extended a few years ago.) [-hh]

    Evelyn adds:

    And (probably) the 1931 DRACULAs as well (both the Lugosi and the
    Villarias versions), though see comments at <https://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2025/01/ universal-studios-dracula-and.html>

    Actually, some claim the Villarias version is already in public
    domain because the copyright was not renewed. On the other hand,
    the restored version may be covered by a separate copyright. On
    the gripping hand, supposedly someone at the copyright office said
    that a restoration cannot be copyrighted, because it's an effort
    to return the film to its original state. [-ecl]

    Scott adds further explanation:

    The problems are first of all that some of the older silent films
    are still in original copyright, but also that the restored and
    reconstructed versions are individually copyrighted.

    So... Boskone (or maybe Arisia, it's hard to tell) owns a 16mm
    print of METROPOLIS which they bought from Blackhawk Films in the
    seventies. The Blackhawk prints come with rights conveyed, so they
    can show that to anyone without paying any royalties.

    *But*... the new re-edited version of Metropolis sold by Kino
    Lorber is still in copyright because of the restoration work...
    and it is much easier to follow the plot in the restored version.
    (It still has a lot of important stuff missing though.)

    So, we can show a poor and fragmentary version but we can't show a
    more complete and better-looking (but still far from original)
    version without paying rights.

    There *are* some old 16mm prints and public domain video transfers
    of many great silent films, though. Some of them are available
    through the Library of Congress although their impending budget
    cuts may sink that. [-sd]

    Gary adds:

    Yes, "More than 95 years old, out of copyright" is a simple rule
    that turns out not always to be true. The copyright boundaries for
    restorations are often unsettled law. I've been stopped 3 times on
    YouTube for alleged copyright violations on silent films with my
    accompaniment. Twice the other side gave in; the other time I
    didn't find it worthwhile to fight it.

    In Europe there's the additional complication that movie
    copyrights tend to be tied to individuals rather than
    corporations, and the clock starts ticking only when the last
    copyright owner dies. [-gmg]

    Paul Dormer writes:

    I've seen Eisenstein's ALEXANDER NEVSKY shown with a live orchestra
    performing Prokoviev's score. [-pd]

    Hal notes:

    A couple of bits of trivia about that film...

    The helm that Nevsky wears is a direct copy of the historical
    original. They borrowed the actual helm from the Hermitage museum
    to make the copy used in the film.

    Prokoviev wrote the music for the battle on the ice before it was
    filmed. The battle was choreographed to match the music. [-hh]

    Paul also adds:

    And they hired strong swimmers as extras--filmed in summer.

    At about the same time, Arthur Bliss was hired to write the music
    for THINGS TO COME. H. G. Wells was insistent that the music be
    written first, but he reckoned without the final editing. The
    result was some jarring key changes in the industrial montage, so
    they got someone to dub tam-tam crashes to cover them. [-pd]

    Evelyn adds:

    Along those lines, Mark and I once went to an outdoor performance
    of Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" at Monmouth Battlefield, with
    live cannon. These days orchestras apparently use recordings of
    live cannon when they are performing indoors. [-ecl]

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    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Okay, once again I'm punting the column and giving you another
    chapter's-worth of commentary on MOBY-DICK. (Well, two, actually,
    because Chapter 5's commentary is so short.)

    CHAPTER 4: The Counterpane

    Much has been made of: "Upon waking next morning about daylight, I
    found Queequeg's arm thrown over me in the most loving and
    affectionate manner. You had almost thought I had been his wife.
    ... For though I tried to move his armrCounlock his bridegroom
    clasprCoyet, sleeping as he was, he still hugged me tightly, as
    though naught but death should part us twain." And certainly
    Melville does emphasize the similarity to a marriage bed (even to
    the "till death do us part" aspect), but it is just as possible
    that he does this to point out the incongruity of it all rather
    than hint at a secret homosexual subtext.

    Ishmael comes from a family in which he has a stepmother and hence
    is a somewhat second-class child. This is similar to his Biblical
    namesake, who was the "illegitimate" son of Abraham and his
    servant Hagar. I put "illegitimate" in quotes because I am not
    sure the word really expresses the connotations in Biblical times.
    There was less stigma attached on men fathering children with
    their servants or slaves, but those children were nonetheless
    lower in status than those whose mother was married to their
    father.

    When Ishmael was sent to his room as a child, he feel asleep in
    the afternoon, he later woke up and relates, "I opened my eyes,
    and the before sun-lit room was now wrapped in outer darkness."
    This is just one of *many* references to black, or darkness,
    presumably to contrast with the whiteness of the whale. It is
    worth noting that while Biblical references connect darkness and
    blackness with evil, almost all the incidents of *actual* darkness
    and blackness in the novel are either benign or positive. The
    Spouter Inn is very dark, yet it provides a meal and a bed for
    Ishmael. Queequeg is dark, yet he is portrayed almost entirely in
    positive terms and is ultimately the means of Ishmael's salvation.

    In the morning, Queequeg climbs naked under the bed where soon "he
    was hard at work booting himself; though by no law of propriety
    that I ever heard of, is any man required to be private when
    putting on his boots. But Queequeg, do you see, was a creature in
    the transition stagerConeither caterpillar nor butterfly. He was
    just enough civilized to show off his outlandishness in the
    strangest possible manners. His education was not yet completed.
    He was an undergraduate ... If he had not been a small degree
    civilized, he very probably would not have troubled himself with
    boots at all; but then, if he had not been still a savage, he
    never would have dreamt of getting under the bed to put them on."
    One of the themes in MOBY-DICK is transitionrCoas the Pequod travels
    further from home (and civilization), many of the crew undergo
    transitions in the reverse of Queequeg's supposed direction.
    Ishmael thinks of Queequeg as transitioning from primitive to
    civilized, while the crew goes from civilized to primitive.

    When Ishmael sees Queequeg shaving with a harpoon, he thinks,
    "Queequeg, this is using Rogers's best cutlery with a vengeance.
    Afterwards I wondered the less at this operation when I came to
    know of what fine steel the head of a harpoon is made, and how
    exceedingly sharp the long straight edges are always kept." One
    might think Ishmael is referring to Wm. Rogers, who was a
    silversmith starting around 1825, and whose name is currently a
    trademark of the Oneida Company. (My parents' good silver was Wm.
    Rogers.) But harpoon points are steel, not silver.

    At breakfast, Ishmael sees "a brown and brawny company, with bosky
    beards." "Bosky" means "having an abundance of bushes, shrubs, or
    trees."

    CHAPTER 5: Breakfast

    Ledyard is John Ledyard, Connecticut-born explorer who traveled
    with Captain Cook, crossed overland from Paris to Irkutsk and
    back, and died on an African expedition. Mungo Park was a Scottish
    explorer who made several expeditions into Africa. Each died on
    one of his voyages.

    [-ecl]

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