• Re: Trump knows what he's doing with the tariffs.

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Mon Jul 21 08:21:08 2025
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    Sure he does. Damaging the standing of the US in the world, destroying the value of the US dollar and driving the US economy into the ground is all
    part of the plan.
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Mon Jul 21 22:18:37 2025
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    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:21:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Sure he does. Damaging the standing of the US in the world, destroying the >value of the US dollar and driving the US economy into the ground is all >part of the plan.

    Prices always drop during a depression.
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Tue Jul 22 06:42:13 2025
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    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 22:18:37 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:21:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Sure he does. Damaging the standing of the US in the world, destroying the >>value of the US dollar and driving the US economy into the ground is all >>part of the plan.

    Prices always drop during a depression.

    Unless something called rCLstagflationrCY happens ...
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Tue Jul 22 06:33:24 2025
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    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:21:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Sure he does. Damaging the standing of the US in the world, destroying the >>value of the US dollar and driving the US economy into the ground is all >>part of the plan.

    Prices always drop during a depression.

    So does income.
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  • From chine.bleu@chine.bleu@yahoo.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Tue Jul 22 03:41:58 2025
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    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:21:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Sure he does. Damaging the standing of the US in the world, destroying the >>> value of the US dollar and driving the US economy into the ground is all >>> part of the plan.

    Prices always drop during a depression.

    So does income.


    We will not pay as much tariffs.
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Tue Jul 22 13:20:36 2025
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    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 06:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 22:18:37 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:21:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Sure he does. Damaging the standing of the US in the world, destroying the >>>value of the US dollar and driving the US economy into the ground is all >>>part of the plan.

    Prices always drop during a depression.

    Unless something called ostagflationo happens ...

    Then it's not "depression" is it?

    Recession - GDP contracts
    Depression - recession plus deflation
    Stagflation - recession plus inflation
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Tue Jul 22 22:36:06 2025
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    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:20:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    Depression - recession plus deflation

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_depression>, rCLDefinitionsrCY:

    Generally, periods labeled depressions are marked by a substantial
    and sustained shortfall of the ability to purchase goods relative
    to the amount that could be produced using current resources and
    technology (potential output).[3] Another proposed definition of
    depression includes two general rules:[4][5]

    1. a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, or
    2. a recession lasting 2 or more years.

    Further above from that:

    Other signs of depression are prices deflation, financial crises,
    stock market crash or even bank failures, or even specific
    behaviour of economic agents or population, that are also common
    or also non common elements of a depression that do not normally
    occur during a recession.
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Tue Jul 22 20:14:01 2025
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    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 22:36:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:20:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    Depression - recession plus deflation

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_depression>, oDefinitionso:

    Generally, periods labeled depressions are marked by a substantial
    and sustained shortfall of the ability to purchase goods relative
    to the amount that could be produced using current resources and
    technology (potential output).[3] Another proposed definition of
    depression includes two general rules:[4][5]

    1. a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, or
    2. a recession lasting 2 or more years.

    Further above from that:

    Other signs of depression are prices deflation, financial crises,
    stock market crash or even bank failures, or even specific
    behaviour of economic agents or population, that are also common
    or also non common elements of a depression that do not normally
    occur during a recession.

    Thanks for the details. Since the subject was Trump's claim to
    lowering prices, a depression would certainly do that and for that
    purpose, the simple definiction of recession accompanied by deflation
    will suffice.
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Wed Jul 23 00:55:09 2025
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    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:14:01 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    Since the subject was Trump's claim to lowering prices, a depression
    would certainly do that and for that purpose, the simple definiction
    of recession accompanied by deflation will suffice.

    Unless, like I said, he creates a rCLstagflationrCY situation instead.

    His tariffs could contribute to that.
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Wed Jul 23 22:11:31 2025
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    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 00:55:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:14:01 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    Since the subject was Trump's claim to lowering prices, a depression
    would certainly do that and for that purpose, the simple definiction
    of recession accompanied by deflation will suffice.

    Unless, like I said, he creates a ostagflationo situation instead.

    His tariffs could contribute to that.

    Yes, but stagflation is not lowering prices.
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Thu Jul 24 05:36:54 2025
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    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:11:31 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 00:55:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:14:01 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    Since the subject was Trump's claim to lowering prices, a depression
    would certainly do that and for that purpose, the simple definiction
    of recession accompanied by deflation will suffice.

    Unless, like I said, he creates a rCLstagflationrCY situation instead.

    His tariffs could contribute to that.

    Yes, but stagflation is not lowering prices.

    Precisely my point.
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Thu Jul 24 11:25:33 2025
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    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 05:36:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:11:31 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 00:55:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:14:01 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    Since the subject was Trump's claim to lowering prices, a depression
    would certainly do that and for that purpose, the simple definiction
    of recession accompanied by deflation will suffice.

    Unless, like I said, he creates a ostagflationo situation instead.

    His tariffs could contribute to that.

    Yes, but stagflation is not lowering prices.

    Precisely my point.

    So, the choices are two.

    1) he lowers prices by engineering a depression
    2) he fails to lower prices by engineering inflation - stag or
    otherwise.
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  • From Derek Nash@dereknash@outlooky.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Thu Jul 24 09:00:43 2025
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    On 7/24/2025 8:25 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 05:36:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:11:31 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 00:55:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 20:14:01 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    Since the subject was Trump's claim to lowering prices, a depression >>>>> would certainly do that and for that purpose, the simple definiction >>>>> of recession accompanied by deflation will suffice.

    Unless, like I said, he creates a rCLstagflationrCY situation instead. >>>>
    His tariffs could contribute to that.

    Yes, but stagflation is not lowering prices.

    Precisely my point.

    So, the choices are two.

    1) he lowers prices by engineering a depression
    2) he fails to lower prices by engineering inflation - stag or
    otherwise.

    Trump has no intention of lowering any prices.
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Thu Jul 24 21:18:51 2025
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    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 11:25:33 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    So, the choices are two.

    1) [Trump] lowers prices by engineering a depression
    2) he fails to lower prices by engineering inflation - stag or
    otherwise.

    Those are possibilities for what might happen, not choices that the US President is smart enough to make.
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.politics.media,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.economics,nz.politics on Fri Jul 25 22:47:21 2025
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    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 21:18:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 11:25:33 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    So, the choices are two.

    1) [Trump] lowers prices by engineering a depression
    2) he fails to lower prices by engineering inflation - stag or
    otherwise.

    Those are possibilities for what might happen, not choices that the US >President is smart enough to make.

    Point taken.
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