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On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:31:25 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:53:21 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

But that kind of attack in Qatar may be a step too far.

Assassins, commandos, a neater quieter ground attack would have been
better than huge explosions.

Agreed.

With a big US military base so nearby, letting such an attack on one of
its supposed allies go unanswered makes Trump look weak.
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 00:09:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:31:25 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 12:53:21 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

But that kind of attack in Qatar may be a step too far.

Assassins, commandos, a neater quieter ground attack would have been
better than huge explosions.

Agreed.

With a big US military base so nearby, letting such an attack on one of
its supposed allies go unanswered makes Trump look weak.

Trump IS weak.

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:25:31 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:42:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 09:19:14 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 08:25:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 22:20:26 -0700, chine.bleu wrote:

You prove you are better than evildoers by doing exactly like them.

How do you tell the good guys from the bad guys, then?

That's an evaluation and the parameters are as subjective as the
perceptions.

There is such a thing as right and wrong, and most countries in the
world are agreed that reneging on prior agreements is wrong.

Correct. However, those considerations as well as perceptions and the
means of evaluation, and the goals in mind, are all subjective.

rCLThe ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between
fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction
between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer
exist.rCY rCo Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:28:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:25:31 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:42:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 09:19:14 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 08:25:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 22:20:26 -0700, chine.bleu wrote:

You prove you are better than evildoers by doing exactly like them. >>>>>

How do you tell the good guys from the bad guys, then?

That's an evaluation and the parameters are as subjective as the
perceptions.

There is such a thing as right and wrong, and most countries in the
world are agreed that reneging on prior agreements is wrong.

Correct. However, those considerations as well as perceptions and the
means of evaluation, and the goals in mind, are all subjective.

oThe ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between
fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction >between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer
exist.o ? Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

Iow, their subjective perceptions and opinions.
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:54:34 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:28:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

rCLThe ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi
or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction
between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the
distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought)
no longer exist.rCY rCo Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

Iow, their subjective perceptions and opinions.

Is that your subjective perception and opinion about what Hannah
Arendt wrote?
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 21:29:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:54:34 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:28:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DAOliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

oThe ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi
or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction
between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the
distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought)
no longer exist.o ? Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

Iow, their subjective perceptions and opinions.

Is that your subjective perception and opinion about what Hannah
Arendt wrote?

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

"The distinction between fact and fiction," perception - what you
sense.
"The distinction between true and false," opinion - what you think
about it.
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 21:29:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:54:34 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:28:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-AOliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

-oThe ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi
or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction
between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the
distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought)
no longer exist.-o ? Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

Iow, their subjective perceptions and opinions.

Is that your subjective perception and opinion about what Hannah
Arendt wrote?

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 21:29:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:54:34 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 07:28:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

?The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi
or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction
between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the
distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought)
no longer exist.? ? Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

Iow, their subjective perceptions and opinions.

Is that your subjective perception and opinion about what Hannah
Arendt wrote?

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:04:40 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!

May not be someone elserCOs.
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:04:40 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!

May not be someone elseAs.

Exactly. It's "subjective". They have their own perceptions and
opinions.
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than it is in blue cities in blue states?"

8647!
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:35:29 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:04:40 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!

May not be someone elserCOs.

Exactly. It's "subjective".

Is that a fact?
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:04:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:35:29 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:04:40 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!

May not be someone elseAs.

Exactly. It's "subjective".

Is that a fact?

It's subjective. ;)
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8647!
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 21:17:47 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:04:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:35:29 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:04:40 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!

May not be someone else-As.

Exactly. It's "subjective".

Is that a fact?

It's subjective. ;)

So rCLnorCY, then.
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 01:36:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 21:17:47 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:04:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:35:29 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:04:40 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!

May not be someone else?s.

Exactly. It's "subjective".

Is that a fact?

It's subjective. ;)

So onoo, then.

Ok, this is boring. Do you have a point to make?
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 16:57:55 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 01:36:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 21:17:47 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:04:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:35:29 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 07:17:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:04:40 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 03:54:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|+Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:31:36 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

All peceptions and opinions are subjective. :)

Is that your subjective pe[r]ception and opinion?

Bingo!

May not be someone else?s.

Exactly. It's "subjective".

Is that a fact?

It's subjective. ;)

So rCLnorCY, then.

Ok, this is boring. Do you have a point to make?

Is it your subjective perception and opinion that this is boring?
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