• Famine In Gaza Is Official

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,aus.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Fri Aug 22 09:41:02 2025
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    The UN has officially declared that there is a state of full-blown famine
    in Gaza.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to nz.politics,aus.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Fri Aug 22 20:39:09 2025
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    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:41:02 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    The UN has officially declared that there is a state of full-blown famine
    in Gaza.

    While Hamas may interfere with some aid internally, the broader and
    more critical factor limiting food reaching Gaza is the blockade and restrictions enforced primarily by Israel, justified by its claims
    that Hamas misuses aid.
    The blockade and conflict operations create immense barriers and
    shortages for food and essential supplies.

    Thus, Hamas is not the sole or main actor stopping food getting
    through to Gaza; the humanitarian crisis results from a complex
    interplay of restrictions, security concerns, and conflict, with the
    blockade playing a central role.
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    Petzl
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  • From Michael Ejercito@MEjercit@HotMail.com to nz.politics,aus.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Fri Aug 22 08:28:41 2025
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    Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:41:02 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    The UN has officially declared that there is a state of full-blown famine
    in Gaza.

    While Hamas may interfere with some aid internally, the broader and
    more critical factor limiting food reaching Gaza is the blockade and restrictions enforced primarily by Israel, justified by its claims
    that Hamas misuses aid.
    The blockade and conflict operations create immense barriers and
    shortages for food and essential supplies.

    Thus, Hamas is not the sole or main actor stopping food getting
    through to Gaza; the humanitarian crisis results from a complex
    interplay of restrictions, security concerns, and conflict, with the
    blockade playing a central role.

    Sure, because there were breakfast buffets open in Hiroshima the
    morning of August 7, 1945!


    Michael
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,aus.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Sun Aug 24 05:14:48 2025
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    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:41:02 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    The UN has officially declared that there is a state of full-blown
    famine in Gaza.

    Just learned another fun fact: the UN IPC group that meets to decide such things has been convening every three months, and just before each
    meeting, Israel has been letting through a (small) burst of aid, just
    enough to try to head off the declaration of full-blown famine.

    Unfortunately, this time, they were too little, too late.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to alt.politics.trump,aus.politics,nz.politics,soc.culture.israel on Sun Aug 24 07:19:39 2025
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    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:41:02 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    The UN has officially declared that there is a state of full-blown
    famine in Gaza.

    Just learned another fun fact: the UN IPC group that meets to decide such >things has been convening every three months, and just before each
    meeting, Israel has been letting through a (small) burst of aid, just
    enough to try to head off the declaration of full-blown famine.

    Unfortunately, this time, they were too little, too late.
    You are always full of "fun" facts - almost never with evidence. Where is the cite for this particular "fun" fact.
    You never post "fun" facts criticising Hamas or Gaza.
    Are you anti semitic or just anti jewish?
    I am not anti anybody but I am pro truth and balance - you should try it, it is
    quite invigorating.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,aus.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Sun Aug 24 08:54:43 2025
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    Israel keeps insisting there is no starvation in Gaza, that they have sent
    in enough food aid to cause an rCLobesity epidemicrCY (in the words of that guy David Mencer, that they hired as a professional liar on their behalf),
    and that all the blame goes to Hamas for hoarding the food for their own fighters and starving the hostages and everybody else.

    So how come theyrCOve never caught any fat, well-fed Hamas fighters they
    could show us? All these unarmed civilians they have caught and killed, on
    the pretext that they are somehow connected with Hamas -- how come they
    only get caught when theyrCOre unarmed? How come Israel has never caught or killed any in actual combat that they could show us?
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to nz.politics,aus.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Sun Aug 24 20:25:55 2025
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    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 05:14:48 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:41:02 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    The UN has officially declared that there is a state of full-blown
    famine in Gaza.

    Just learned another fun fact: the UN IPC group that meets to decide such >things has been convening every three months, and just before each
    meeting, Israel has been letting through a (small) burst of aid, just
    enough to try to head off the declaration of full-blown famine.

    Unfortunately, this time, they were too little, too late.

    Not Israel stopping food going into Gaza.

    Hamas are finding this lucrative!
    Delivering food aid in Gaza currently involves very high risks, both
    for those distributing supplies and those trying to receive them.
    These risks stem from violence, insecurity, armed conflict, and an
    unstable humanitarian environment, making even basic relief efforts

    Hamas leaders are well away from Gaza, worth $11B and live luxury
    lives in Qatar

    The main entry points for food aid to Gaza currently are:

    The main entry points for food aid to Gaza are the Kerem Shalom
    crossing (south), Erez crossing (north), and, when open, the Rafah
    crossing (south, Egypt border), with the Kerem Shalom crossing being
    the primary active route now.
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    Petzl
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  • From b20e327l39p7315he9845gor@rog5489eh5137p93l723302b.org.invalid@leck-mich.am@arsch.invalid to alt.politics.trump,nz.politics,soc.culture.israel on Mon Aug 25 09:46:17 2025
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    Tony bot wrote a lovely piece of genocide apologism

    Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Just learned another fun fact: the UN IPC group that meets to decide
    such
    things has been convening every three months, and just before each
    meeting, Israel has been letting through a (small) burst of aid, just
    enough to try to head off the declaration of full-blown famine.
    Unfortunately, this time, they were too little, too late.
    You are always full of "fun" facts
    Yeah. Ruthless genocide is so much fun ... ha-ha-ha.
    Clearly you must be having a laughing cramp while watching the induced suffering and murder of innocent civilians by the thousands as carried
    out by your chosen people!

    - almost never with evidence.
    As if you were able to produce any credible evidence to the contrary?
    You never post "fun" facts criticising Hamas or Gaza.
    In this clearly asymmetrical theatre of war you desperate trying to
    compare apples o oranges. Good luck with that stupid endeavour.

    Are you anti semitic or just anti jewish?
    ROTFLOL!
    How nice of you to admit that Antisemitism is more than just an
    anti-Jewish mental defect. After all, Palestinians are also a Semitic
    ethnic group.

    Here are a few real fun facts for you to choke on:

    -Anti ethnic-cleansing and anti-genocide activism is neither Antisemitic
    nor anti-Jewish.

    -Not tolerating such crimes against humanity is a universal concept and
    it condemns any party attempting do carry out such atrocities...thus it
    is valid for both the Netanyahu regime run IDF and its counterpart
    HAMAS. Pot Kettle Black!

    -Those Jewish people who have not intentional divested their humanity
    also condemn what the Zionist extremist do in the Palestinian
    territories. Or do you accuse them also of being Antisemitic and anti-Jewish???

    *Rabbi Weiss denounces IsraelrCOs atrocities in PalestinerCOs Gaza* <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uOvP3J3QBtU>

    *Jewish filmmaker calls out Israel's 'genocide in Gaza' at Venice Film Festival*
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgP8uh42t9w>

    I am not anti anybody but I am pro truth and balance -
    you should try it, it is quite invigorating.

    Yawn! You are spewing one sided propaganda rubbish. Go away in shame and
    crawl back under your rock where you belong.
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    Stingendes MAGA M|+llhaufen
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to alt.politics.trump,nz.politics,soc.culture.israel on Mon Aug 25 03:51:11 2025
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    "b20e327l39p7315he9845gor@rog5489eh5137p93l723302b.org.invalid" <leck-mich.am@arsch.invalid> wrote:
    Tony bot wrote a lovely piece of genocide apologism

    Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Just learned another fun fact: the UN IPC group that meets to decide
    such
    things has been convening every three months, and just before each
    meeting, Israel has been letting through a (small) burst of aid, just
    enough to try to head off the declaration of full-blown famine.
    Unfortunately, this time, they were too little, too late.
    You are always full of "fun" facts
    Yeah. Ruthless genocide is so much fun ... ha-ha-ha.
    Clearly you must be having a laughing cramp while watching the induced >suffering and murder of innocent civilians by the thousands as carried
    out by your chosen people!
    I genuinely desp[ise people who make assumptions like those that you make - you
    really deserve to be in Gaza.

    - almost never with evidence.
    As if you were able to produce any credible evidence to the contrary?
    Not up to me to show him wrong, it is up to him to provide evidence, but as usual there was none.
    You never post "fun" facts criticising Hamas or Gaza.
    In this clearly asymmetrical theatre of war you desperate trying to
    compare apples o oranges. Good luck with that stupid endeavour.
    Not me, you and Lawrence.

    Are you anti semitic or just anti jewish?
    ROTFLOL!
    How nice of you to admit that Antisemitism is more than just an
    anti-Jewish mental defect. After all, Palestinians are also a Semitic
    ethnic group.
    Obviously, but I already knew that. So repeating the fundamentally obvious is something you are good at. Glad there is something.

    Here are a few real fun facts for you to choke on:

    -Anti ethnic-cleansing and anti-genocide activism is neither Antisemitic
    nor anti-Jewish.

    -Not tolerating such crimes against humanity is a universal concept and
    it condemns any party attempting do carry out such atrocities...thus it
    is valid for both the Netanyahu regime run IDF and its counterpart
    HAMAS. Pot Kettle Black!

    -Those Jewish people who have not intentional divested their humanity
    also condemn what the Zionist extremist do in the Palestinian
    territories. Or do you accuse them also of being Antisemitic and >anti-Jewish???

    *Rabbi Weiss denounces IsraelrCOs atrocities in PalestinerCOs Gaza* ><https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uOvP3J3QBtU>

    *Jewish filmmaker calls out Israel's 'genocide in Gaza' at Venice Film >Festival*
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgP8uh42t9w>

    I am not anti anybody but I am pro truth and balance -
    you should try it, it is quite invigorating.

    Yawn! You are spewing one sided propaganda rubbish. Go away in shame and >crawl back under your rock where you belong.

    --
    Stingendes MAGA M|+llhaufen
    Nice to see you also provide no evidence - are you Lawrence's missus?
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  • From b20e327l39p7315he9845gor@rog5489eh5137p93l723302b.org.invalid@leck-mich.am@arsch.invalid to alt.politics.trump,nz.politics,soc.culture.israel on Tue Aug 26 09:01:16 2025
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    Tony bot empties his bowel content all over the keyboard

    "b20e327l39p7315he9845gor@rog5489eh5137p93l723302b.org.invalid" <leck-mich.am@arsch.invalid> wrote:
    Tony bot wrote a lovely piece of genocide apologism

    Lawrence D|a-+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Just learned another fun fact: the UN IPC group that meets to decide
    such
    things has been convening every three months, and just before each
    meeting, Israel has been letting through a (small) burst of aid, just
    enough to try to head off the declaration of full-blown famine.
    Unfortunately, this time, they were too little, too late.
    You are always full of "fun" facts

    Yeah. Ruthless genocide is so much fun ... ha-ha-ha.
    Clearly you must be having a laughing cramp while watching the induced
    suffering and murder of innocent civilians by the thousands as carried
    out by your chosen people!

    I genuinely desp[ise people who make assumptions like those that you make - you
    really deserve to be in Gaza.

    Oh the irony! :-P

    Just curious, could you get even more pathetic if you tried harder???

    - almost never with evidence.

    As if you were able to produce any credible evidence to the contrary?

    Not up to me to show him wrong, it is up to him to provide evidence, but as usual there was none.

    You have asserted that he was not providing facts. Where is your
    evidence for making such an assertion, eh fucker? Have none? It figures.

    So now I'd say either put up or shut the fuck up!

    You never post "fun" facts criticising Hamas or Gaza.

    In this clearly asymmetrical theatre of war you desperate trying to
    compare apples to oranges. Good luck with that stupid endeavour.

    Not me, you and Lawrence.

    Another empty assertion! just as expected.

    Yes,we now! Hard-right wankers like you are masters of deflection and projectionism.


    Are you anti semitic or just anti jewish?

    ROTFLOL!
    How nice of you to admit that Antisemitism is more than just an
    anti-Jewish mental defect. After all, Palestinians are also a Semitic
    ethnic group.

    Obviously, but I already knew that.

    LOL! Apparently your previous post does not reflect that alleged
    knowledge at all. After all you seem to be rolling with laughter as the
    IDF murders the innocent women, children and the elderly by the
    thousands in Palestinian territories. Yes Semitic people are murdered
    and you clearly defend the criminals.

    So repeating the fundamentally obvious is
    something you are good at. Glad there is something.

    Apparently, the even the very obvious does not properly register in your
    fully fried alt-right brain as your genocide apologism posts clearly
    attest to this sad fact.

    You ain't qualified to pontificate over what I am supposed to be good at
    nor what I am not. After all you actually know fuck all about me.

    After all this is only our first rodeo, eh scumbag?

    Here are a few real fun facts for you to choke on:

    -Anti ethnic-cleansing and anti-genocide activism is neither Antisemitic
    nor anti-Jewish.

    -Not tolerating such crimes against humanity is a universal concept and
    it condemns any party attempting do carry out such atrocities...thus it
    is valid for both the Netanyahu regime run IDF and its counterpart
    HAMAS. Pot Kettle Black!

    -Those Jewish people who have not intentional divested their humanity
    also condemn what the Zionist extremist do in the Palestinian
    territories. Or do you accuse them also of being Antisemitic and
    anti-Jewish???

    *Rabbi Weiss denounces Israeli atrocities in Palestinian Gaza*
    <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uOvP3J3QBtU>

    *Jewish filmmaker calls out Israel's 'genocide in Gaza' at Venice Film
    Festival*
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgP8uh42t9w>

    I am not anti anybody but I am pro truth and balance -
    you should try it, it is quite invigorating.

    Yawn! You are spewing one sided propaganda rubbish. Go away in shame and
    crawl back under your rock where you belong.

    Nice to see you also provide no evidence -

    LOL!
    I just did. But it did not make any difference in face of your genocide apologist zionist zealotry, bot!
    Why am I NOT surprised! :-P :-P :-P
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to alt.politics.trump,nz.politics,soc.culture.israel on Tue Aug 26 00:43:18 2025
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    "b20e327l39p7315he9845gor@rog5489eh5137p93l723302b.org.invalid" <leck-mich.am@arsch.invalid> wrote:
    Tony bot empties his bowel content all over the keyboard

    "b20e327l39p7315he9845gor@rog5489eh5137p93l723302b.org.invalid"
    <leck-mich.am@arsch.invalid> wrote:
    Tony bot wrote a lovely piece of genocide apologism

    Lawrence D|a-+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Just learned another fun fact: the UN IPC group that meets to decide
    such
    things has been convening every three months, and just before each
    meeting, Israel has been letting through a (small) burst of aid, just >>>>> enough to try to head off the declaration of full-blown famine.
    Unfortunately, this time, they were too little, too late.
    You are always full of "fun" facts

    Yeah. Ruthless genocide is so much fun ... ha-ha-ha.
    Clearly you must be having a laughing cramp while watching the induced
    suffering and murder of innocent civilians by the thousands as carried
    out by your chosen people!

    I genuinely desp[ise people who make assumptions like those that you make - >>you
    really deserve to be in Gaza.

    Oh the irony! :-P

    Just curious, could you get even more pathetic if you tried harder???
    I have never tried that, do tell us of your personal successes in that manner.

    - almost never with evidence.

    As if you were able to produce any credible evidence to the contrary?

    Not up to me to show him wrong, it is up to him to provide evidence, but as >> usual there was none.

    You have asserted that he was not providing facts. Where is your
    evidence for making such an assertion, eh fucker? Have none? It figures.

    So now I'd say either put up or shut the fuck up!
    Ignosing your pathetic rudesnee. He provided no facts - I do not attempt, ever,
    to answer factless accusations like his and yours. It is illogical and pointless because people like you never listen.

    You never post "fun" facts criticising Hamas or Gaza.

    In this clearly asymmetrical theatre of war you desperate trying to
    compare apples to oranges. Good luck with that stupid endeavour.

    Not me, you and Lawrence.

    Another empty assertion! just as expected.
    Just like yours and Lawrences.

    Yes,we now! Hard-right wankers like you are masters of deflection and >projectionism.
    Your personal habits don't interest me - why are you so rude - pray tell?


    Are you anti semitic or just anti jewish?

    ROTFLOL!
    How nice of you to admit that Antisemitism is more than just an
    anti-Jewish mental defect. After all, Palestinians are also a Semitic
    ethnic group.

    Obviously, but I already knew that.

    LOL! Apparently your previous post does not reflect that alleged
    knowledge at all. After all you seem to be rolling with laughter as the
    IDF murders the innocent women, children and the elderly by the
    thousands in Palestinian territories. Yes Semitic people are murdered
    and you clearly defend the criminals.
    I do nothing of the sort, not one word have I written that does that - are you mad or just very ill?

    So repeating the fundamentally obvious is
    something you are good at. Glad there is something.

    Apparently, the even the very obvious does not properly register in your >fully fried alt-right brain as your genocide apologism posts clearly
    attest to this sad fact.
    No apologism from me for genocide - it is abhorent but you clearly don't want balance in your views - or if you do you simply are unable to achieve it. There
    are two sides to this catastrophe and that is all I referred to - but you go off half cocked as usual.

    You ain't qualified to pontificate over what I am supposed to be good at
    nor what I am not. After all you actually know fuck all about me.
    So how is it you can do exactly that concerning me eh? Do tell. You judge me with no knowledge and yet hate being judged - that really is a sickness.

    After all this is only our first rodeo, eh scumbag?

    Here are a few real fun facts for you to choke on:

    -Anti ethnic-cleansing and anti-genocide activism is neither Antisemitic >>> nor anti-Jewish.

    -Not tolerating such crimes against humanity is a universal concept and
    it condemns any party attempting do carry out such atrocities...thus it
    is valid for both the Netanyahu regime run IDF and its counterpart
    HAMAS. Pot Kettle Black!

    -Those Jewish people who have not intentional divested their humanity
    also condemn what the Zionist extremist do in the Palestinian
    territories. Or do you accuse them also of being Antisemitic and
    anti-Jewish???

    *Rabbi Weiss denounces Israeli atrocities in Palestinian Gaza*
    <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uOvP3J3QBtU>

    *Jewish filmmaker calls out Israel's 'genocide in Gaza' at Venice Film
    Festival*
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgP8uh42t9w>

    I am not anti anybody but I am pro truth and balance -
    you should try it, it is quite invigorating.

    Yawn! You are spewing one sided propaganda rubbish. Go away in shame and >>> crawl back under your rock where you belong.

    Nice to see you also provide no evidence -

    LOL!
    I just did. But it did not make any difference in face of your genocide >apologist zionist zealotry, bot!
    You are lkying - why do you do that? Particularly when the evidence is clear for all to see?
    Why am I NOT surprised! :-P :-P :-P

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