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Reflections by Greenpeace Aotearoa executive director Russel Norman on FrancerCOs infamous act of state-sponsored terrorism on us <https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743714/we-have-be-courageous-now-too-why-rainbow-warrior-still-matters-40-years>:

rCLPeople imagine that the nuclear-free stuff happened through
consensus, with everyone being nice to each other. It didnrCOt.

rCLThat embrace of a nuclear-free identity for New Zealand, which
now seems common sense and is core to what makes us special, was
extremely divisive back then, and it was not embraced by
everyone.rCY

Well, some of us do like to draw a distinction between being nuclear-weapons-free, and being nuclear-power-free ...

rCLThe idea that we could have achieved a nuclear-free Pacific
without conflict is not true. And the idea that we can deal with
climate change and cut emissions without conflict is also not
true.rCY
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 23:09:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

Reflections by Greenpeace Aotearoa executive director Russel Norman on >FranceAs infamous act of state-sponsored terrorism on us ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743714/we-have-be-courageous-now-too-why-rainbow-warrior-still-matters-40-years>:

oPeople imagine that the nuclear-free stuff happened through
consensus, with everyone being nice to each other. It didnAt.

oThat embrace of a nuclear-free identity for New Zealand, which
now seems common sense and is core to what makes us special, was
extremely divisive back then, and it was not embraced by
everyone.o

Well, some of us do like to draw a distinction between being >nuclear-weapons-free, and being nuclear-power-free ...

oThe idea that we could have achieved a nuclear-free Pacific
without conflict is not true. And the idea that we can deal with
climate change and cut emissions without conflict is also not
true.o

The fact of the matter is that the World will never be Nuclear-free
and neither will we ever be able to address the causes of climate
change. The reasons are simple: totalitarian Governments control
significant parts of the Northern Hemisphere. They have nuclear arms
and will continue to do whatever they please with respect to climate
change mitigation (or lack thereof).

We stood up to the French when they violated our sovereignty but
ultimately the French government did what it normally does -
threatened us with trade sanctions and ignored the release conditions
imposed on them to get their agents back.

We are well-known for our opposition to nuclear armaments being
brought to us by our military allies but ultimately this has not
achieved elimination of nuclear arms and is therefore as insignificant
as it is pointless.
--
Crash McBash
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Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 23:09:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

Reflections by Greenpeace Aotearoa executive director Russel Norman on >>FranceAs infamous act of state-sponsored terrorism on us >><https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743714/we-have-be-courageous-now-too-why-rainbow-warrior-still-matters-40-years>:

oPeople imagine that the nuclear-free stuff happened through
consensus, with everyone being nice to each other. It didnAt.

oThat embrace of a nuclear-free identity for New Zealand, which
now seems common sense and is core to what makes us special, was
extremely divisive back then, and it was not embraced by
everyone.o

Well, some of us do like to draw a distinction between being >>nuclear-weapons-free, and being nuclear-power-free ...

oThe idea that we could have achieved a nuclear-free Pacific
without conflict is not true. And the idea that we can deal with
climate change and cut emissions without conflict is also not
true.o

The fact of the matter is that the World will never be Nuclear-free
and neither will we ever be able to address the causes of climate
change. The reasons are simple: totalitarian Governments control
significant parts of the Northern Hemisphere. They have nuclear arms
and will continue to do whatever they please with respect to climate
change mitigation (or lack thereof).

We stood up to the French when they violated our sovereignty but
ultimately the French government did what it normally does -
threatened us with trade sanctions and ignored the release conditions
imposed on them to get their agents back.

We are well-known for our opposition to nuclear armaments being
brought to us by our military allies but ultimately this has not
achieved elimination of nuclear arms and is therefore as insignificant
as it is pointless.

--
Crash McBash

Exactly Crash, I visited the last US navy nuclear powered surface ship to visit
New Zealand - they could not understand what we were trying to achieve and we don't understand it either. An exercise that annoyed an ally to no purpose.

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