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The UN on Wednesday said access for medical professionals into the
Gaza Strip remains severely restricted, with over 100 health workers, >including surgeons and specialized staff, denied entry since March,
Anadolu reports.
oYesterday, emergency medical teams were denied entry into Gaza,o UN >spokesperson Farhan Haq told a news conference, adding that othe World
Health Organization tells us that more than 100 health professionals, >including surgeons and other specialized medical staff, have been
barred from entry since March this year.o
Asked whether the group denied entry was a specialized team, Haq said:
oAs far as IAm aware, this was not a specialized group.o
oThis is part of the constant practice of banning the entry of medical >professionals since March,o he added.
Noting that not all medical staff were barred from entering the Gaza
Strip since March, Haq stressed that ocertainly, 100 of them have been
banned since March, so itAs a huge number.o
He said access issues also stem from visa and movement restrictions by >Israeli authorities.
Citing the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA),
Haq described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as obeyond
catastrophic.o
oMore people are being killed and injured, either along convoy routes
or where theyAre staying,o he added.
The spokesman said ostarvation continues to happen,o with five new >malnutrition-related deaths reported in the past 24 hours, bringing
the toll to nearly 200, half of them children.
Saying that Israel continues to block the entry of shelter materials
since March, Haq said: oToday, the Israeli military renewed two
displacement orders spanning some 1.5 square miles across five
neighborhoods in Gaza and Khan Younis governorates.o
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250806-un-says-over-100-doctors-barred-from-gaza-since-march-amid-worsening-crisis/
On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:00:16 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
<void@invalid.noy> in alt.atheism with message-id ><gl889k925q9on6finfu4pvgp3umb64hi5t@4ax.com> wrote:
The UN on Wednesday said access for medical professionals into the
Gaza Strip remains severely restricted, with over 100 health workers, >>including surgeons and specialized staff, denied entry since March,
Anadolu reports.
-oYesterday, emergency medical teams were denied entry into Gaza,-o UN >>spokesperson Farhan Haq told a news conference, adding that -othe World >>Health Organization tells us that more than 100 health professionals, >>including surgeons and other specialized medical staff, have been
barred from entry since March this year.-o
Asked whether the group denied entry was a specialized team, Haq said:
-oAs far as I-Am aware, this was not a specialized group.-o
-oThis is part of the constant practice of banning the entry of medical >>professionals since March,-o he added.
Noting that not all medical staff were barred from entering the Gaza
Strip since March, Haq stressed that -ocertainly, 100 of them have been >>banned since March, so it-As a huge number.-o
He said access issues also stem from visa and movement restrictions by >>Israeli authorities.
Citing the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA),
Haq described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as -obeyond >>catastrophic.-o
-oMore people are being killed and injured, either along convoy routes
or where they-Are staying,-o he added.
The spokesman said -ostarvation continues to happen,-o with five new >>malnutrition-related deaths reported in the past 24 hours, bringing
the toll to nearly 200, half of them children.
Saying that Israel continues to block the entry of shelter materials
since March, Haq said: -oToday, the Israeli military renewed two >>displacement orders spanning some 1.5 square miles across five >>neighborhoods in Gaza and Khan Younis governorates.-o
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250806-un-says-over-100-doctors-barred-from-gaza-since-march-amid-worsening-crisis/
The UN is a joke and few pay any attention to it's grandiose
named offices or organizations.
On 2025-08-07, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:00:16 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
<void@invalid.noy> in alt.atheism with message-id
<gl889k925q9on6finfu4pvgp3umb64hi5t@4ax.com> wrote:
The UN on Wednesday said access for medical professionals into the
Gaza Strip remains severely restricted, with over 100 health workers,
including surgeons and specialized staff, denied entry since March,
Anadolu reports.
-oYesterday, emergency medical teams were denied entry into Gaza,-o UN
spokesperson Farhan Haq told a news conference, adding that -othe World
Health Organization tells us that more than 100 health professionals,
including surgeons and other specialized medical staff, have been
barred from entry since March this year.-o
Asked whether the group denied entry was a specialized team, Haq said:
-oAs far as I-Am aware, this was not a specialized group.-o
-oThis is part of the constant practice of banning the entry of medical
professionals since March,-o he added.
Noting that not all medical staff were barred from entering the Gaza
Strip since March, Haq stressed that -ocertainly, 100 of them have been
banned since March, so it-As a huge number.-o
He said access issues also stem from visa and movement restrictions by
Israeli authorities.
Citing the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA),
Haq described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as -obeyond
catastrophic.-o
-oMore people are being killed and injured, either along convoy routes
or where they-Are staying,-o he added.
The spokesman said -ostarvation continues to happen,-o with five new
malnutrition-related deaths reported in the past 24 hours, bringing
the toll to nearly 200, half of them children.
Saying that Israel continues to block the entry of shelter materials
since March, Haq said: -oToday, the Israeli military renewed two
displacement orders spanning some 1.5 square miles across five
neighborhoods in Gaza and Khan Younis governorates.-o
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250806-un-says-over-100-doctors-barred-from-gaza-since-march-amid-worsening-crisis/
The UN is a joke and few pay any attention to it's grandiose
named offices or organizations.
Sadly that is the truth.
It's nothing more than a cocktail circuit for the elite to pretend they actually matter.
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every time they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
On 2025-08-07, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:<snip>
The UN is a joke and few pay any attention to it's grandiose
named offices or organizations.
Sadly that is the truth.
It's nothing more than a cocktail circuit for the elite to pretend they >actually matter.
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every time >they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
On 2025-08-07, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:00:16 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
<void@invalid.noy> in alt.atheism with message-id >><gl889k925q9on6finfu4pvgp3umb64hi5t@4ax.com> wrote:
The UN on Wednesday said access for medical professionals into the
Gaza Strip remains severely restricted, with over 100 health workers, >>>including surgeons and specialized staff, denied entry since March, >>>Anadolu reports.
?Yesterday, emergency medical teams were denied entry into Gaza,? UN >>>spokesperson Farhan Haq told a news conference, adding that ?the World >>>Health Organization tells us that more than 100 health professionals, >>>including surgeons and other specialized medical staff, have been
barred from entry since March this year.?
Asked whether the group denied entry was a specialized team, Haq said: >>>?As far as I?m aware, this was not a specialized group.?
?This is part of the constant practice of banning the entry of medical >>>professionals since March,? he added.
Noting that not all medical staff were barred from entering the Gaza >>>Strip since March, Haq stressed that ?certainly, 100 of them have been >>>banned since March, so it?s a huge number.?
He said access issues also stem from visa and movement restrictions by >>>Israeli authorities.
Citing the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), >>>Haq described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as ?beyond >>>catastrophic.?
?More people are being killed and injured, either along convoy routes
or where they?re staying,? he added.
The spokesman said ?starvation continues to happen,? with five new >>>malnutrition-related deaths reported in the past 24 hours, bringing
the toll to nearly 200, half of them children.
Saying that Israel continues to block the entry of shelter materials >>>since March, Haq said: ?Today, the Israeli military renewed two >>>displacement orders spanning some 1.5 square miles across five >>>neighborhoods in Gaza and Khan Younis governorates.?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250806-un-says-over-100-doctors-barred-from-gaza-since-march-amid-worsening-crisis/
The UN is a joke and few pay any attention to it's grandiose
named offices or organizations.
Sadly that is the truth.
It's nothing more than a cocktail circuit for the elite to pretend they >actually matter.
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every time >they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
On 2025-08-07, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:00:16 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
<void@invalid.noy> in alt.atheism with message-id >><gl889k925q9on6finfu4pvgp3umb64hi5t@4ax.com> wrote:
The UN on Wednesday said access for medical professionals into the
Gaza Strip remains severely restricted, with over 100 health workers, >>>including surgeons and specialized staff, denied entry since March, >>>Anadolu reports.
?Yesterday, emergency medical teams were denied entry into Gaza,? UN >>>spokesperson Farhan Haq told a news conference, adding that ?the World >>>Health Organization tells us that more than 100 health professionals, >>>including surgeons and other specialized medical staff, have been
barred from entry since March this year.?
Asked whether the group denied entry was a specialized team, Haq said: >>>?As far as I?m aware, this was not a specialized group.?
?This is part of the constant practice of banning the entry of medical >>>professionals since March,? he added.
Noting that not all medical staff were barred from entering the Gaza >>>Strip since March, Haq stressed that ?certainly, 100 of them have been >>>banned since March, so it?s a huge number.?
He said access issues also stem from visa and movement restrictions by >>>Israeli authorities.
Citing the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), >>>Haq described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as ?beyond >>>catastrophic.?
?More people are being killed and injured, either along convoy routes
or where they?re staying,? he added.
The spokesman said ?starvation continues to happen,? with five new >>>malnutrition-related deaths reported in the past 24 hours, bringing
the toll to nearly 200, half of them children.
Saying that Israel continues to block the entry of shelter materials >>>since March, Haq said: ?Today, the Israeli military renewed two >>>displacement orders spanning some 1.5 square miles across five >>>neighborhoods in Gaza and Khan Younis governorates.?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250806-un-says-over-100-doctors-barred-from-gaza-since-march-amid-worsening-crisis/
The UN is a joke and few pay any attention to it's grandiose
named offices or organizations.
Sadly that is the truth.
It's nothing more than a cocktail circuit for the elite to pretend they >actually matter.
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every time >they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 00:59:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <1073i62$cchu$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 2025-08-07, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:00:16 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
<void@invalid.noy> in alt.atheism with message-id
<gl889k925q9on6finfu4pvgp3umb64hi5t@4ax.com> wrote:
The UN on Wednesday said access for medical professionals into the
Gaza Strip remains severely restricted, with over 100 health workers,
including surgeons and specialized staff, denied entry since March,
Anadolu reports.
?Yesterday, emergency medical teams were denied entry into Gaza,? UN
spokesperson Farhan Haq told a news conference, adding that ?the World >>>> Health Organization tells us that more than 100 health professionals,
including surgeons and other specialized medical staff, have been
barred from entry since March this year.?
Asked whether the group denied entry was a specialized team, Haq said: >>>> ?As far as I?m aware, this was not a specialized group.?
?This is part of the constant practice of banning the entry of medical >>>> professionals since March,? he added.
Noting that not all medical staff were barred from entering the Gaza
Strip since March, Haq stressed that ?certainly, 100 of them have been >>>> banned since March, so it?s a huge number.?
He said access issues also stem from visa and movement restrictions by >>>> Israeli authorities.
Citing the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), >>>> Haq described the humanitarian situation in Gaza as ?beyond
catastrophic.?
?More people are being killed and injured, either along convoy routes
or where they?re staying,? he added.
The spokesman said ?starvation continues to happen,? with five new
malnutrition-related deaths reported in the past 24 hours, bringing
the toll to nearly 200, half of them children.
Saying that Israel continues to block the entry of shelter materials
since March, Haq said: ?Today, the Israeli military renewed two
displacement orders spanning some 1.5 square miles across five
neighborhoods in Gaza and Khan Younis governorates.?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250806-un-says-over-100-doctors-barred-from-gaza-since-march-amid-worsening-crisis/
The UN is a joke and few pay any attention to it's grandiose
named offices or organizations.
Sadly that is the truth.
It's nothing more than a cocktail circuit for the elite to pretend they
actually matter.
It tries to take more power than it has and more authority
than it was granted. It wants globalization for everything.
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every time >> they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
And we pay most of the costs.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 00:59:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On 2025-08-07, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:<snip>
The UN is a joke and few pay any attention to it's grandiose
named offices or organizations.
Sadly that is the truth.
It's nothing more than a cocktail circuit for the elite to pretend they >>actually matter.
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce
its resolutions.
--<snip>
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforceBut it does have, as George Carlin once put it, "the Blue-Helmeted
its resolutions.
Hordes".
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce its resolutions.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 00:59:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id <1073i62$cchu$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every
time they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
And we [the US] pay most of the costs.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:06:17 -0400, Attila wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 00:59:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id <1073i62$cchu$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every
time they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
And we [the US] pay most of the costs.
And in return, the US gets to control who is allowed into the country to >attend UN meetings.
IAm sure there are lots of people who would be quite happy for the UN to >move more of its operations to a venue with a much more credible
reputation for neutrality ... like Geneva.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:09:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> in alt.atheism with message-id
And in return, the US gets to control who is allowed into the
country to attend UN meetings.
But how often is anyone barred?
IrCOm sure there are lots of people who would be quite happy for the
UN to move more of its operations to a venue with a much more
credible reputation for neutrality ... like Geneva.
As long as we continue to pay the bills.
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Giving people a quiet, safe place to sip tea is a good way to keep warsThe UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforceBut it does have, as George Carlin once put it, "the Blue-Helmeted
its resolutions.
Hordes".
from starting.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce its
resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
It tries to take more power than it has and more authority
than it was granted. It wants globalization for everything.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:09:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> in alt.atheism with message-id ><10763jd$10n9v$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:06:17 -0400, Attila wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 00:59:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> >>> in alt.atheism with message-id <1073i62$cchu$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
I wish NYC would refuse to support it so it can be moved because every >>>> time they have any type of meeting traffic turns to crap.
What a total, corrupt waste the UN has become.
And we [the US] pay most of the costs.
And in return, the US gets to control who is allowed into the country to >>attend UN meetings.
But how often is anyone barred?
IAm sure there are lots of people who would be quite happy for the UN to >>move more of its operations to a venue with a much more credible >>reputation for neutrality ... like Geneva.
As long as we continue to pay the bills.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce
its resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
No, and that's WHY the UN has no teeth. No country is willing to do
that.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:00:05 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Giving people a quiet, safe place to sip tea is a good way to keep wars >>from starting.The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforceBut it does have, as George Carlin once put it, "the Blue-Helmeted
its resolutions.
Hordes".
*applause*
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:06:17 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
It tries to take more power than it has and more authority
than it was granted. It wants globalization for everything.
Where do you get this goofy stuff?
Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 10:06:17 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
It tries to take more power than it has and more authority
than it was granted. It wants globalization for everything.
Where do you get this goofy stuff?
Well, Mr. President, it's the bees and spiders again. They stole my food stamps fo to sell them to the rats! I went to my car to honk the horn fo help, but the snakes is guarding it or the cockaroaches. I go back
upstairs but the spiders has jammed the police lock! I ain't been inside
fo a week, and I know my wife is sleepin wif the bees!
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 21:02:28 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce
its resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
No, and that's WHY the UN has no teeth. No country is willing to do
that.
But countries such as yours must find the UN useful for *some*thing, >otherwise why do they stay a member? Why not just leave?
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 21:02:28 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce
its resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
No, and that's WHY the UN has no teeth. No country is willing to do
that.
But countries such as yours must find the UN useful for *some*thing, otherwise why do they stay a member? Why not just leave?
On 8/9/2025 7:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 21:02:28 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce
its resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
No, and that's WHY the UN has no teeth. No country is willing to do
that.
But countries such as yours must find the UN useful for *some*thing,
otherwise why do they stay a member? Why not just leave?
The UN is a U.S. creation that has served the interests of the U.S. extremely >well for 80 years.
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:08:35 -0700, DoD <danskisanjar@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 8/9/2025 7:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 21:02:28 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce >>>>>> its resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
No, and that's WHY the UN has no teeth. No country is willing to do
that.
But countries such as yours must find the UN useful for *some*thing,
otherwise why do they stay a member? Why not just leave?
The UN is a U.S. creation that has served the interests of the U.S. extremely
well for 80 years.
Thank you for pointing that out.
On 8/11/2025 4:41 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:08:35 -0700, DoD <danskisanjar@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 8/9/2025 7:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 21:02:28 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce >>>>>>> its resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
No, and that's WHY the UN has no teeth. No country is willing to do >>>>> that.
But countries such as yours must find the UN useful for *some*thing,
otherwise why do they stay a member? Why not just leave?
The UN is a U.S. creation that has served the interests of the U.S. extremely
well for 80 years.
Thank you for pointing that out.
It's not to say the UN has always done the bidding of the U.S., but mostly it
has, and biggest benefit to the U.S. is that it has largely kept other countries
in line. It isn't perfect, but it works in America's interest most of the time,
and pretty close to always on all the big things. Far right-wingnut rabid foaming about the UN is utterly misguided.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:00:05 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Giving people a quiet, safe place to sip tea is a good way to keep wars >>>from starting.The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce >>>>>> its resolutions.But it does have, as George Carlin once put it, "the Blue-Helmeted
Hordes".
*applause*
The stupidity of the 1914 war was because the idiots running governments
did not have a place for civilised talking and listenning.
The Cuban missile crisis was just as stupid but at least we had a place
to let ambassadors rant until they exhausted themselves.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:00:05 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Giving people a quiet, safe place to sip tea is a good way to keep wars >>>from starting.The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce >>>>>> its resolutions.But it does have, as George Carlin once put it, "the Blue-Helmeted
Hordes".
*applause*
The stupidity of the 1914 war was because the idiots running governments
did not have a place for civilised talking and listenning.
The Cuban missile crisis was just as stupid but at least we had a place
to let ambassadors rant until they exhausted themselves.
In soc.culture.jewish chine.bleu <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 11:00:05 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Giving people a quiet, safe place to sip tea is a good way to keep wars >>>>from starting.The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce >>>>>>> its resolutions.But it does have, as George Carlin once put it, "the Blue-Helmeted
Hordes".
*applause*
The stupidity of the 1914 war was because the idiots running governments
did not have a place for civilised talking and listenning.
That is wrong. They had places. the forces that propelled that war
could not have been diplomatically resolved.
The Cuban missile crisis was just as stupid but at least we had a place
to let ambassadors rant until they exhausted themselves.
That is also wrong and we came very close to a shooting was and with
ICBMs. It was dumb luck that saved us and a the good conscious of a
Russian Navel officer who disobeyed orders.
In soc.culture.jewish DoD <danskisanjar@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/11/2025 4:41 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:08:35 -0700, DoD <danskisanjar@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 8/9/2025 7:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 21:02:28 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:04:56 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
The UN is a joke because it doesn't have a military able to enforce >>>>>>>> its resolutions.
Would your country agree to give such powers to the UN?
No, and that's WHY the UN has no teeth. No country is willing to do >>>>>> that.
But countries such as yours must find the UN useful for *some*thing, >>>>> otherwise why do they stay a member? Why not just leave?
The UN is a U.S. creation that has served the interests of the U.S. extremely
well for 80 years.
Thank you for pointing that out.
It's not to say the UN has always done the bidding of the U.S., but mostly it
has, and biggest benefit to the U.S. is that it has largely kept other countries
in line. It isn't perfect, but it works in America's interest most of the time,
and pretty close to always on all the big things. Far right-wingnut rabid >> foaming about the UN is utterly misguided.
This is not your grandfathers UN and it's rabid antisemetism and danger
is real. Rightwing ciritism of the UN is spot on. The UN is a danger
to Humanity.
Credit to that ship's captain for not starting the shooting. Credit
also goes to Kennedy who agreed in back channels to remove US/NATO
missiles recently installed in Turkey. The Soviet missiles in Cuba
were a reaction to those US missiles.
Iow, the Soviets were not aggressing, they were reacting.
Iow, the primary international forum for European discussion was dead
by the time the Archduke was shot.
The Cuban missile crisis was just as stupid but at least we had a place
to let ambassadors rant until they exhausted themselves.
The FACT of the CMC is, that Soviet missiles in Cuba were a direct
response to NATO missiles in Turkey. Once JFK agreed to removing the missiles in Turkey, the USSR removed its missiles from Cuba.
This was all very back channel stuff and history barely remembers it.
On Sat, 09 Aug 2025 00:09:56 -0400, Attila wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 00:09:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> in alt.atheism with message-id
And in return, the US gets to control who is allowed into the
country to attend UN meetings.
But how often is anyone barred?
Governor Swill wrote:
Credit to that ship's captain for not starting the shooting. Credit
also goes to Kennedy who agreed in back channels to remove US/NATO
missiles recently installed in Turkey. The Soviet missiles in Cuba
were a reaction to those US missiles.
Iow, the Soviets were not aggressing, they were reacting.
So called world leaders need a teensy bit of perspective.
Today we are not sure if any nuclear weapons work.
Governor Swill wrote:
Iow, the primary international forum for European discussion was dead
by the time the Archduke was shot.
And Wilson to craft a replacement
On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 10:24:11 -0700, "chine.bleu" wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
Credit to that ship's captain for not starting the shooting. Credit
also goes to Kennedy who agreed in back channels to remove US/NATO
missiles recently installed in Turkey. The Soviet missiles in Cuba
were a reaction to those US missiles.
Iow, the Soviets were not aggressing, they were reacting.
So called world leaders need a teensy bit of perspective.
Today we are not sure if any nuclear weapons work.
I disagree. We are quite sure quite a lot of them work.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 10:24:11 -0700, "chine.bleu" wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
Credit to that ship's captain for not starting the shooting. Credit
also goes to Kennedy who agreed in back channels to remove US/NATO
missiles recently installed in Turkey. The Soviet missiles in Cuba
were a reaction to those US missiles.
Iow, the Soviets were not aggressing, they were reacting.
So called world leaders need a teensy bit of perspective.
Today we are not sure if any nuclear weapons work.
I disagree. We are quite sure quite a lot of them work.
They did work. The guys who made them have retired. People making
weapons now have never tested them. US weapons use tritium. That has to
be replaced every few years. None of replacements have been tested. >Replacing tritium is expensive; it has been speculated Russia cannot pay
for it so all their weapons are now duds.
And this time since last testing will only go on getting longer. We
cannot know if a screw has ever been misplaced.
We only know Russia has not tried one successfully which would be
detected. If they tried and it was a dud, would they tell us?
So we go forward with these things nobody would be stupid enough to use,
not sure if they can be used, but not sure they are inert.
It sounds like peace might break out.