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... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the places
they will be from.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the places
they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those very lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax.
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to propping up that US Federal deficit.
The Republicans refused to go along with the idea, for some reason.
On 7/14/25 8:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the
places they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those
very lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax.
16th amendment already requires them to pay taxes. Of course, many
didn't, adding to their lawbreaking.
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to
propping up that US Federal deficit.
You know as well as I do that not one red cent would go towards
deficit and/or debt reduction.
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:1055has$2m85$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/14/25 8:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the
places they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those
very lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax.
16th amendment already requires them to pay taxes. Of course, many
didn't, adding to their lawbreaking.
When is the last time Trump paid any taxes?
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to
propping up that US Federal deficit.
You know as well as I do that not one red cent would go towards
deficit and/or debt reduction.
LOL!
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
How droll.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/senate-gop-tax-bill-would-raise- budget-deficits-4-trillion-over-10-years-crfb
https://www.crfb.org/blogs/senate-reconciliation-bill-could-add-over-4- trillion-debt
On 7/14/25 8:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the
places they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those
very lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax.
16th amendment already requires them to pay taxes.
Of course, many didn't, adding to their lawbreaking.
On 7/15/25 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:1055has$2m85$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/14/25 8:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the
places they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those
very lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax.
16th amendment already requires them to pay taxes. Of course, many
didn't, adding to their lawbreaking.
-a-a-a When is the last time Trump paid any taxes?
Don't know. You tell us.
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to
propping up that US Federal deficit.
You know as well as I do that not one red cent would go towards
deficit and/or debt reduction.
-a-a-a LOL!
-a-a-a Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
On 7/15/25 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
When is the last time Trump paid any taxes?
Don't know. You tell us.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 08:25:00 -0400, Yak wrote:
On 7/14/25 8:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the
places they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those
very lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax.
16th amendment already requires them to pay taxes.
Does the US Constitution apply to non-citizens? If it gives
responsibilities to non-citizens, then it must give them rights also, must
it not?
Of course, many didn't, adding to their lawbreaking.
I had a look at the 16th Amendment. It just says Congress has the power to levy taxes,
so IrCOm not sure which part of that you think the non-citizens
are breaking.
On 7/15/25 3:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
I had a look at the 16th Amendment. It just says Congress has the power
to levy taxes,
It says more than that. It says - The Congress shall have power to lay
and collect taxes on incomes, *from whatever source derived*
so IrCOm not sure which part of that you think the non-citizens
are breaking.
Are *all* illegals paying income taxes on their income, from whatever
source derived?
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to propping up >> that US Federal deficit.
You know as well as I do that not one red cent would go towards deficit >and/or debt reduction.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the places
they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those very >lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax. Overnight, you would have had >something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to propping up >that US Federal deficit.
The Republicans refused to go along with the idea, for some reason.
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:25:02 -0400, Yak wrote:
On 7/15/25 3:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
I had a look at the 16th Amendment. It just says Congress has the power
to levy taxes,
It says more than that. It says - The Congress shall have power to lay
and collect taxes on incomes, *from whatever source derived*
In other words, they get to choose the source from which they collect
those taxes.
so IrCOm not sure which part of that you think the non-citizens
are breaking.
Are *all* illegals paying income taxes on their income, from whatever
source derived?
Congress gets to make that choice. Obama proposed to include illegal immigrants as another such rCLsourcerCY, but his Republican opponents refused.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 08:25:00 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to propping up >>> that US Federal deficit.
You know as well as I do that not one red cent would go towards deficit
and/or debt reduction.
Got that right! The Republicans would cut the tax rates and jack up
spending to maintain debt growth.
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not conservative (i.e. CINOs).
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not >conservative (i.e. CINOs).
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
That's not what is meant by 'source.' The source is the income itself. >Illegal or not, they are required by law to declare their income, from >whatever source they derive it. Instead of Juan wiring his under the
table cash back to Consuela in full, he is required to, by law, declare
it as income and pay income taxes on it. In many cases, that isn't >happening.
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 08:25:00 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to propping up >>>> that US Federal deficit.
You know as well as I do that not one red cent would go towards deficit
and/or debt reduction.
Got that right! The Republicans would cut the tax rates and jack up
spending to maintain debt growth.
Meanwhile, as those tax cuts increase revenues democrats would spend it
all, and more.
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:not
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are
whereconservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured out
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of advice -
read the site that you posted to.
On 7/15/2025 7:13 AM, Gak, *fat* little Nazi cocksucker fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times rCo and *admits* it rCo lied:
On 7/15/25 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:1055has$2m85$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/14/25 8:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 00:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Dhu on Gate wrote:
... you MAKE Citizens (who PAY TAX) and the rest ship back to the
places they will be from.
Funny, I remember President Obama put forward a proposal along those >>>>> very lines, to make illegal immigrants pay tax.
16th amendment already requires them to pay taxes. Of course, many
didn't, adding to their lawbreaking.
-a-a-a When is the last time Trump paid any taxes?
Don't know. You tell us.
Overnight, you would have had
something like 4 million additional taxpayers to contribute to
propping up that US Federal deficit.
You know as well as I do that not one red cent would go towards
deficit and/or debt reduction.
-a-a-a LOL!
-a-a-a Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
You're one of them, you priest-fucked *fat* little cocksucker.
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105bhlv$1fqem$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:not
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are
whereconservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured out
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of advice -
read the site that you posted to.
Unlike you I have done field work.
It is manifestly awful. I admired the
"wets" (local term) who did it and did it
well. They worked at a pace that made
decent money for them.
Your "slave wages" rant is both wrong
and stupid, you should apoglize for it.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:04:46 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
Reagan was a CINO? The Bushes were CINOs? Clinton, the one modern
President who actually cared about deficit and debt was once described
by a Time Magazine writer as the best Republican President the GOP
never had.
Tell us, when was the last time a Republican President cared about
debt and deficit?
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:08:02 -0400, Yak wrote:
That's not what is meant by 'source.' The source is the income itself.
Illegal or not, they are required by law to declare their income, from
whatever source they derive it. Instead of Juan wiring his under the
table cash back to Consuela in full, he is required to, by law, declare
it as income and pay income taxes on it. In many cases, that isn't
happening.
So? Juan is making minimum wage if that much. If he actually filed,
he'd end up getting money BACK under the EIC among other tax rules
that govern taxation of the poor.
Hadn't thought about that, had you?
On 7/17/25 10:13 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:to
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105bhlv$1fqem$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:not
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are
whereconservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured out
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of advice -
read the site that you posted to.
Unlike you I have done field work.
It is manifestly awful. I admired the
"wets" (local term) who did it and did it
well. They worked at a pace that made
decent money for them.
Then, idiot, you should realize that the 'field work' that you linked
is not crop/fruit picking field work.
You're comparing two completely
separate things.
theYour "slave wages" rant is both wrong
and stupid, you should apoglize for it.
Boo hoo...cry me a river, snowflake. Since you aren't even comparing
right kind of field work there's nothing to apologize for. You should apologize for your continued desire for low prices on the back slaveand
child labor.
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dfac$21rc3$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 10:13 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:to
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105bhlv$1fqem$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:not
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are
whereconservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured out
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of advice -
read the site that you posted to.
Unlike you I have done field work.
It is manifestly awful. I admired the
"wets" (local term) who did it and did it
well. They worked at a pace that made
decent money for them.
Then, idiot, you should realize that the 'field work' that you linked
is not crop/fruit picking field work.
Huh?
The cite proves you wrong,
my
personal experience proves you wrong,
you are wrong, just admit it.
You're comparing two completelythe
separate things.
Your "slave wages" rant is both wrong
and stupid, you should apoglize for it.
Boo hoo...cry me a river, snowflake. Since you aren't even comparing
right kind of field work there's nothing to apologize for. You shouldand
apologize for your continued desire for low prices on the back slave
child labor.
On 7/18/25 8:59 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:are
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dfac$21rc3$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 10:13 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105bhlv$1fqem$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to
-not
whereconservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured out
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of advice
toread the site that you posted to.
Unlike you I have done field work.
It is manifestly awful. I admired the
"wets" (local term) who did it and did it
well. They worked at a pace that made
decent money for them.
Then, idiot, you should realize that the 'field work' that you linked
is not crop/fruit picking field work.
Huh?
The cite proves you wrong,
The cite says *nothing* about field workers in the context of crop
pickers. Did you even read it?
claim.my
personal experience proves you wrong,
Given your history here I call into question every last thing you
comparingyou are wrong, just admit it.
Nah, I got this one spot on correct. You need to admit you are
two different kinds of 'field work.'
You're comparing two completelythe
separate things.
Your "slave wages" rant is both wrong
and stupid, you should apoglize for it.
Boo hoo...cry me a river, snowflake. Since you aren't even comparing
right kind of field work there's nothing to apologize for. You shouldand
apologize for your continued desire for low prices on the back slave
child labor.
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dhj9$22ejj$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/18/25 8:59 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:are
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dfac$21rc3$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 10:13 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105bhlv$1fqem$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>>
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits. >>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to
-not
whereconservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured out
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of advice
toread the site that you posted to.
Unlike you I have done field work.
It is manifestly awful. I admired the
"wets" (local term) who did it and did it
well. They worked at a pace that made
decent money for them.
Then, idiot, you should realize that the 'field work' that you linked
is not crop/fruit picking field work.
Huh?
The cite proves you wrong,
The cite says *nothing* about field workers in the context of crop
pickers. Did you even read it?
It says field workers. What do you
think field workers DO, if not pick crops
in the field?
claim.
my
personal experience proves you wrong,
Given your history here I call into question every last thing you
comparing
you are wrong, just admit it.
Nah, I got this one spot on correct. You need to admit you are
two different kinds of 'field work.'
What two kinds?
You're comparing two completelythe
separate things.
Your "slave wages" rant is both wrong
and stupid, you should apoglize for it.
Boo hoo...cry me a river, snowflake. Since you aren't even comparing
right kind of field work there's nothing to apologize for. You shouldand
apologize for your continued desire for low prices on the back slave
child labor.
On 7/18/25 1:41 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:email.me:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dhj9$22ejj$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/18/25 8:59 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dfac$21rc3$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 10:13 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105bhlv$1fqem$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-
wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com>
outare
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to
not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured
advicewhere
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of
linked-
read the site that you posted to.
Unlike you I have done field work.
It is manifestly awful. I admired the
"wets" (local term) who did it and did it
well. They worked at a pace that made
decent money for them.
Then, idiot, you should realize that the 'field work' that you
to
is not crop/fruit picking field work.
Huh?
The cite proves you wrong,
The cite says *nothing* about field workers in the context of crop
pickers. Did you even read it?
It says field workers. What do you
think field workers DO, if not pick crops
in the field?
If you could be bothered to even read the site that you posted to you
would see what a field worker does. As I previously said, the site you
are relying on makes no reference, nor bears any connection, to crop pickers. Why don't you quit while you're behind and spare yourself any further embarrassment?
claim.
my
personal experience proves you wrong,
Given your history here I call into question every last thing you
comparing
you are wrong, just admit it.
Nah, I got this one spot on correct. You need to admit you are
two different kinds of 'field work.'
What two kinds?
1 - the kind that you claim to have taken part in.
2 - the kind described at the site that you clearly did not read; or,
for some inexplicable reason, don't understand.
On 7/17/25 7:05 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:04:46 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
Reagan was a CINO? The Bushes were CINOs? Clinton, the one modern
President who actually cared about deficit and debt was once described
by a Time Magazine writer as the best Republican President the GOP
never had.
Tell us, when was the last time a Republican President cared about
debt and deficit?
The debt went up under all of them. Therefore, they are not fiscal >conservatives. This isn't hard.
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105e236$26e4o$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/18/25 1:41 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:email.me:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dhj9$22ejj$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/18/25 8:59 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105dfac$21rc3$1@dont-email.me:
On 7/17/25 10:13 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105bhlv$1fqem$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>
On 7/17/25 2:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105at41$1ccfm$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>>
On 7/17/25 9:05 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:105aot0$1bjln$1@dont-
wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com>
outare
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to
not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
The No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that the best you can do?
It's the truth. That's all I need.
What would you know about truth?
I know that you're incapable of telling it.
"You want low prices. And you are now
demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide
it for you."
Yak, July 9, 2025.
In fact field workers make 3 times the
minimum wage.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Field-Work-Salary
LOL...you're still running with this and still haven't figured
advicewhere
you're going wrong with it, huh? Let me give you a piece of
linked-
read the site that you posted to.
Unlike you I have done field work.
It is manifestly awful. I admired the
"wets" (local term) who did it and did it
well. They worked at a pace that made
decent money for them.
Then, idiot, you should realize that the 'field work' that you
to
is not crop/fruit picking field work.
Huh?
The cite proves you wrong,
The cite says *nothing* about field workers in the context of crop
pickers. Did you even read it?
It says field workers. What do you
think field workers DO, if not pick crops
in the field?
If you could be bothered to even read the site that you posted to you
would see what a field worker does. As I previously said, the site you
are relying on makes no reference, nor bears any connection, to crop
pickers. Why don't you quit while you're behind and spare yourself any
further embarrassment?
Your claim:
"you are now demanding the equivalent of migrant
slaves, at below minimum wage provide it for you."
Post your proof.
claim.
my
personal experience proves you wrong,
Given your history here I call into question every last thing you
comparing
you are wrong, just admit it.
Nah, I got this one spot on correct. You need to admit you are
two different kinds of 'field work.'
What two kinds?
1 - the kind that you claim to have taken part in.
2 - the kind described at the site that you clearly did not read; or,
for some inexplicable reason, don't understand.
Your claim was about field work.
My rebuttal was about field work.
While claiming my proof is wrong
you have posted NONE showing that your
claim is RIGHT.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:41:17 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/17/25 7:05 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:04:46 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not
conservative (i.e. CINOs).
Reagan was a CINO? The Bushes were CINOs? Clinton, the one modern
President who actually cared about deficit and debt was once described
by a Time Magazine writer as the best Republican President the GOP
never had.
Tell us, when was the last time a Republican President cared about
debt and deficit?
The debt went up under all of them. Therefore, they are not fiscal
conservatives. This isn't hard.
So you agree that Republicans are wastrels driving the debt. Good to
know.
On 7/19/25 6:22 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:41:17 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/17/25 7:05 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:04:46 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not >>>>> conservative (i.e. CINOs).
Reagan was a CINO? The Bushes were CINOs? Clinton, the one modern
President who actually cared about deficit and debt was once described >>>> by a Time Magazine writer as the best Republican President the GOP
never had.
Tell us, when was the last time a Republican President cared about
debt and deficit?
The debt went up under all of them. Therefore, they are not fiscal
conservatives. This isn't hard.
So you agree that Republicans are wastrels driving the debt. Good to
know.
No, I agree CINOs, and liberals, are wastrels driving debt.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:32:45 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/19/25 6:22 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:41:17 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/17/25 7:05 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:04:46 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not >>>>>> conservative (i.e. CINOs).
Reagan was a CINO? The Bushes were CINOs? Clinton, the one modern
President who actually cared about deficit and debt was once described >>>>> by a Time Magazine writer as the best Republican President the GOP
never had.
Tell us, when was the last time a Republican President cared about
debt and deficit?
The debt went up under all of them. Therefore, they are not fiscal
conservatives. This isn't hard.
So you agree that Republicans are wastrels driving the debt. Good to
know.
No, I agree CINOs, and liberals, are wastrels driving debt.
You hold Republicans blameless?
On 7/21/25 9:32 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 08:32:45 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/19/25 6:22 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:41:17 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/17/25 7:05 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 08:04:46 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
On 7/16/25 8:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:12 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
Conservatives pretend to care about deficits.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't. They just pretend they do.
Yes, they do. Problem is the 'they' that you are referring to are not >>>>>>> conservative (i.e. CINOs).
Reagan was a CINO? The Bushes were CINOs? Clinton, the one modern >>>>>> President who actually cared about deficit and debt was once described >>>>>> by a Time Magazine writer as the best Republican President the GOP >>>>>> never had.
Tell us, when was the last time a Republican President cared about >>>>>> debt and deficit?
The debt went up under all of them. Therefore, they are not fiscal
conservatives. This isn't hard.
So you agree that Republicans are wastrels driving the debt. Good to
know.
No, I agree CINOs, and liberals, are wastrels driving debt.
You hold Republicans blameless?
No, I don't.