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Sir Ian Taylor writes well on this:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743654/ian-taylor-dear-jacinda-most-difficult-letter-i-have-written-you
We would also do well to remember the reaction to the Parliamentary
protest - anarchy and Barry Manilow's music.
Hindsight does give insight.
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Sir Ian Taylor writes well on this:Stuff published a number of responses, they are very interesting. Not all >supported Sir Ian's view but many did. Interstingly those that were against >were often so for emotional and not very rational reasons.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743654/ian-taylor-dear-jacinda-most-difficult-letter-i-have-written-you
We would also do well to remember the reaction to the Parliamentary
protest - anarchy and Barry Manilow's music.
Hindsight does give insight.
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 00:12:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyNone oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Sir Ian Taylor writes well on this:Stuff published a number of responses, they are very interesting. Not all >>supported Sir Ian's view but many did. Interstingly those that were against >>were often so for emotional and not very rational reasons.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743654/ian-taylor-dear-jacinda-most-difficult-letter-i-have-written-you
We would also do well to remember the reaction to the Parliamentary >>>protest - anarchy and Barry Manilow's music.
Hindsight does give insight.
Those that are against Jacinda are often emotional and not very
rational. The reality is that New Zealand did much better than other >countries in saving lives - estimates are between 20,000 and 22,000
lives saved by the response. The protests at parliament were fostered
for in the best "Trumpian" far right political traditions by the likes
of Eft-postle Tamaki and the NZ Taxpayer Union and NZ First - courting >"anti-vaxx" nutters to "foment mischief." That protest was handled >relatively gently - and the music chosen had nothing to do with
Jacinda Ardern, but that just shows again the ignorance of those that
wish to distract from the extremely good Covid response in New
Zealand. The reality of that protest was that it caused a peak in
Wellington Hospital of those needing assistance due to Covid
infection.
Yes there were difficulties for many individuals - being locked in orNone oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
out of New Zealand caused less disruption than death however . . .
Most of the protests were made at a time when some relaxation of
restrictions was close in any event - and when different parts of the
country could be treated differently. The larger the centre the harder
it was to end the pandemic - and Auckland been large with moderately
high population density was understandably slower to achieve lower
infection rates.
We could each ask ourselves how many additional deaths would have beenNone oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
an acceptable cost for removing restrictions earlier?
As far as economic recovery is concerned; New Zealand recovered more
quickly than any other developed country - we restored GDP growth per
person very quickly as employment and spending power had been
protected; and company closures were nowhere near the levels we have
had over the last year . . . .
It is worth considering now just how long it is since the pandemic wasNone oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
over - when do you think that happened?
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 00:12:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyNone oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Sir Ian Taylor writes well on this:Stuff published a number of responses, they are very interesting. Not all >>>supported Sir Ian's view but many did. Interstingly those that were against >>>were often so for emotional and not very rational reasons.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743654/ian-taylor-dear-jacinda-most-difficult-letter-i-have-written-you
We would also do well to remember the reaction to the Parliamentary >>>>protest - anarchy and Barry Manilow's music.
Hindsight does give insight.
Those that are against Jacinda are often emotional and not very
rational. The reality is that New Zealand did much better than other >>countries in saving lives - estimates are between 20,000 and 22,000
lives saved by the response. The protests at parliament were fostered
for in the best "Trumpian" far right political traditions by the likes
of Eft-postle Tamaki and the NZ Taxpayer Union and NZ First - courting >>"anti-vaxx" nutters to "foment mischief." That protest was handled >>relatively gently - and the music chosen had nothing to do with
Jacinda Ardern, but that just shows again the ignorance of those that
wish to distract from the extremely good Covid response in New
Zealand. The reality of that protest was that it caused a peak in >>Wellington Hospital of those needing assistance due to Covid
infection.
None oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
Yes there were difficulties for many individuals - being locked in or
out of New Zealand caused less disruption than death however . . .
Most of the protests were made at a time when some relaxation of >>restrictions was close in any event - and when different parts of the >>country could be treated differently. The larger the centre the harder
it was to end the pandemic - and Auckland been large with moderately
high population density was understandably slower to achieve lower >>infection rates.
None oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
We could each ask ourselves how many additional deaths would have been
an acceptable cost for removing restrictions earlier?
As far as economic recovery is concerned; New Zealand recovered more >>quickly than any other developed country - we restored GDP growth per >>person very quickly as employment and spending power had been
protected; and company closures were nowhere near the levels we have
had over the last year . . . .
None oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
It is worth considering now just how long it is since the pandemic was
over - when do you think that happened?
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 06:11:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo little child, I have read it and the comments. I am on point and correct! However we all understand your shortcomings don/t we
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 00:12:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyNone oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Sir Ian Taylor writes well on this:Stuff published a number of responses, they are very interesting. Not all >>>>supported Sir Ian's view but many did. Interstingly those that were against
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743654/ian-taylor-dear-jacinda-most-difficult-letter-i-have-written-you
We would also do well to remember the reaction to the Parliamentary >>>>>protest - anarchy and Barry Manilow's music.
Hindsight does give insight.
were often so for emotional and not very rational reasons.
Those that are against Jacinda are often emotional and not very
rational. The reality is that New Zealand did much better than other >>>countries in saving lives - estimates are between 20,000 and 22,000
lives saved by the response. The protests at parliament were fostered
for in the best "Trumpian" far right political traditions by the likes
of Eft-postle Tamaki and the NZ Taxpayer Union and NZ First - courting >>>"anti-vaxx" nutters to "foment mischief." That protest was handled >>>relatively gently - and the music chosen had nothing to do with
Jacinda Ardern, but that just shows again the ignorance of those that >>>wish to distract from the extremely good Covid response in New
Zealand. The reality of that protest was that it caused a peak in >>>Wellington Hospital of those needing assistance due to Covid
infection.
None oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
Yes there were difficulties for many individuals - being locked in or
out of New Zealand caused less disruption than death however . . .
Most of the protests were made at a time when some relaxation of >>>restrictions was close in any event - and when different parts of the >>>country could be treated differently. The larger the centre the harder
it was to end the pandemic - and Auckland been large with moderately
high population density was understandably slower to achieve lower >>>infection rates.
None oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
We could each ask ourselves how many additional deaths would have been
an acceptable cost for removing restrictions earlier?
As far as economic recovery is concerned; New Zealand recovered more >>>quickly than any other developed country - we restored GDP growth per >>>person very quickly as employment and spending power had been
protected; and company closures were nowhere near the levels we have
had over the last year . . . .
None oif which addresses the subject. Read the open letter.
It is worth considering now just how long it is since the pandemic was >>>over - when do you think that happened?
Try reading the letter yourself, Tony - you are wrong, wrong, and
wrong again.
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 00:12:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Sir Ian Taylor writes well on this:Stuff published a number of responses, they are very interesting. Not all >>supported Sir Ian's view but many did. Interstingly those that were against >>were often so for emotional and not very rational reasons.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360743654/ian-taylor-dear-jacinda-most-difficult-letter-i-have-written-you
We would also do well to remember the reaction to the Parliamentary >>>protest - anarchy and Barry Manilow's music.
Hindsight does give insight.
Those that are against Jacinda are often emotional and not very
rational. The reality is that New Zealand did much better than other >countries in saving lives - estimates are between 20,000 and 22,000
lives saved by the response.
The protests at parliament were fostered
for in the best "Trumpian" far right political traditions by the likes
of Eft-postle Tamaki and the NZ Taxpayer Union and NZ First - courting >"anti-vaxx" nutters to "foment mischief."
That protest was handled--
relatively gently - and the music chosen had nothing to do with
Jacinda Ardern, but that just shows again the ignorance of those that
wish to distract from the extremely good Covid response in New
Zealand. The reality of that protest was that it caused a peak in
Wellington Hospital of those needing assistance due to Covid
infection.
Yes there were difficulties for many individuals - being locked in or
out of New Zealand caused less disruption than death however . . .
Most of the protests were made at a time when some relaxation of
restrictions was close in any event - and when different parts of the
country could be treated differently. The larger the centre the harder
it was to end the pandemic - and Auckland been large with moderately
high population density was understandably slower to achieve lower
infection rates.
We could each ask ourselves how many additional deaths would have been
an acceptable cost for removing restrictions earlier?
As far as economic recovery is concerned; New Zealand recovered more
quickly than any other developed country - we restored GDP growth per
person very quickly as employment and spending power had been
protected; and company closures were nowhere near the levels we have
had over the last year . . . .
It is worth considering now just how long it is since the pandemic was
over - when do you think that happened?