• Media not trusted: this is why

    From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.general on Thu Aug 28 08:17:34 2025
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    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/571159/they-suggested-we-wear-more-clothes-households-hit-with-huge-power-bills?cid=newsletter

    Entirely missing from the article:

    1. What was the KW/H consumption (and rate)?
    2. What was their bill (KW/H and amount) for the same month in
    previous years?

    My electricity costs are rising, but that is in part because of
    increasing consumption and in part because of increased unit pricing.
    So my bill may be greater this year event if prices per KW/H were
    reduced.

    Consumption rates as well as unit pricing are critical to
    understanding the problem, but only unit pricing is indirectly covered
    in this article. How is this considered an acceptable level of
    accuracy in reporting this issue?

    Originally posted by mistake in nz.politics.
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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Wed Aug 27 21:02:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    My electricity costs are rising, but that is in part because of
    increasing consumption and in part because of increased unit pricing.
    So my bill may be greater this year event if prices per KW/H were
    reduced.

    "Wind Farms to blame for rising energy bills, says Ofgem": https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/27/energy-bills-ofgem-price-cap-october-rise/

    As I've continually said, every new wind turbine is another increase
    in your monthly electricity cost.

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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Wed Aug 27 23:23:49 2025
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    On 2025-08-27, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/571159/they-suggested-we-wear-more-clothes-households-hit-with-huge-power-bills?cid=newsletter

    Entirely missing from the article:

    1. What was the KW/H consumption (and rate)?
    2. What was their bill (KW/H and amount) for the same month in
    previous years?

    My electricity costs are rising, but that is in part because of
    increasing consumption and in part because of increased unit pricing.
    So my bill may be greater this year event if prices per KW/H were
    reduced.

    Consumption rates as well as unit pricing are critical to
    understanding the problem, but only unit pricing is indirectly covered
    in this article. How is this considered an acceptable level of
    accuracy in reporting this issue?

    Originally posted by mistake in nz.politics.

    This is indeed a half the story effort. There is an saying Compare apple to oranges. One needs to compare like with like.

    When asked what is my last power bill, I point out that I have done many activities in the last months which have resulted in a very large power
    bill. Even charging a EV at home will blow out the bill.

    All too often people grab a figure and run with it.

    While an in depth investigation with figures would take some effort, both on part of the journalist part and the readers it is probable that the
    majority of the readers will just accept the amount without some critical thought being applied.

    Another factor in my experience is that most people just use the power with seldom a thought that their use is putting the power bill through the roof.
    The household with 2 children and working from home is vastly different to a single person household who goes to work.

    The article could have at least given the rate and the amount used for
    various situations. Doing so would have educated the readers, if only by a little bit.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Wed Aug 27 23:37:15 2025
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    On 2025-08-27, Willy Nilly <wn@nosuch.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    My electricity costs are rising, but that is in part because of
    increasing consumption and in part because of increased unit pricing.
    So my bill may be greater this year event if prices per KW/H were
    reduced.

    "Wind Farms to blame for rising energy bills, says Ofgem": https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/27/energy-bills-ofgem-price-cap-october-rise/

    As I've continually said, every new wind turbine is another increase
    in your monthly electricity cost.

    There is a school of thought which is gaining traction. If you go solar and wind energy you will have to pay for the solar and wind power to shut down
    as the power supply is too great. Later that day you do not have enough
    power to meet the demand.
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