• Re: Another study in the Covid-19 response

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Mon Jul 7 02:39:52 2025
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    Looks like those who suffer from Long COVID are being excluded from
    the current inquiry:

    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-inquiry-who-is-being-excluded-from-inquiry-hearings/EVUPLEFHVNCQTJZ564CW54U27U/>
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  • From Rich80105@Rich80105@hotmail.com to nz.general on Mon Jul 7 18:17:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 02:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Looks like those who suffer from Long COVID are being excluded from
    the current inquiry:

    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-inquiry-who-is-being-excluded-from-inquiry-hearings/EVUPLEFHVNCQTJZ564CW54U27U/>

    That is a shame, because it was getting to be recognised as a problem
    before restrictions on movement were lifted; some people found a
    second infection easier to recover from than the first infection, but increasingly others were finding the second infection to be much
    harder to recover from, and sadly those getting multiple infection
    were often nurses or hospital workers who were, despite precautions,
    still able to be infected.

    Regrettably, the danger of multiple infections was increased by the
    sustained campaign to object to anything the government did, not
    matter what it was - and that was most obvious around the time of the parliamentary protests; many of the deaths then, and now, can be
    attributed in part to the propaganda that asserted that vaccination
    was dangerous and that the infection was mild - the reality is that we
    are still getting deaths each week - there were over 1000 new cases
    reported in the last week, and 13 deaths - see: https://www.tewhatuora.govt.nz/for-health-professionals/data-and-statistics/covid-19-data/covid-19-current-cases#current-situation
    So Covid is not far away from as big a problem as deaths from traffic accidents; but currently gets much less funding and attention - the
    government needs to be held to account for wrecking peoples lives
    through ignoring the problem and pandering to the anti-vaccination
    nutters









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  • From Rich80105@Rich80105@hotmail.com to nz.general on Mon Jul 7 22:48:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Mon, 07 Jul 2025 18:17:45 +1200, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 02:39:52 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Looks like those who suffer from Long COVID are being excluded from
    the current inquiry:
    <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-inquiry-who-is-being-excluded-from-inquiry-hearings/EVUPLEFHVNCQTJZ564CW54U27U/>

    That is a shame, because it was getting to be recognised as a problem
    before restrictions on movement were lifted; some people found a
    second infection easier to recover from than the first infection, but >increasingly others were finding the second infection to be much
    harder to recover from, and sadly those getting multiple infection
    were often nurses or hospital workers who were, despite precautions,
    still able to be infected.

    I found this article confirming that the ability to catch it more than
    once was well known fairly early on: https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity



    Regrettably, the danger of multiple infections was increased by the
    sustained campaign to object to anything the government did, not
    matter what it was - and that was most obvious around the time of the >parliamentary protests; many of the deaths then, and now, can be
    attributed in part to the propaganda that asserted that vaccination
    was dangerous and that the infection was mild - the reality is that we
    are still getting deaths each week - there were over 1000 new cases
    reported in the last week, and 13 deaths - see: >https://www.tewhatuora.govt.nz/for-health-professionals/data-and-statistics/covid-19-data/covid-19-current-cases#current-situation
    So Covid is not far away from as big a problem as deaths from traffic >accidents; but currently gets much less funding and attention - the >government needs to be held to account for wrecking peoples lives
    through ignoring the problem and pandering to the anti-vaccination
    nutters








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