• Arbitrary And Capricious Social Media Bans

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general on Sun Aug 10 01:45:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    This item <https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/08/09/quite-stressful-kiwis-stung-by-wrongful-facebook-and-instagram-bans/>
    from yesterdayrCOs news reports on people who have had their accounts on Instagram or Facebook (both owned by parent company Meta) suspended or
    banned for unknown reasons.

    This sort of thing has been happening, right across social media
    platforms, since the beginning. Maybe itrCOs happening more now. The
    processes at these companies are highly automated, and appeals against
    such suspension/termination decisions rarely seem to be successful.
    They almost never give any details about which exactly of their terms
    and conditions have been violated, so you end up groping in the dark
    when trying to defend yourself.

    About the only thing that does work is appealing to the media. All too
    often, within 24-48 hours of undesirable publicity getting out,
    decisions which were previously delivered as rCLfinalrCY somehow manage to
    earn a retraction, or at least another review.

    One thing I find sardonically funny is one suffering user is quoted as
    saying rCLthey need a better customer support systemrCY. Remember, if you
    are not paying for the service, then you are not the customer: you are
    the product.
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  • From John McCue@jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general on Sun Aug 10 15:52:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Follow-ups trimmed to comp.misc

    In comp.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    This item <https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/08/09/quite-stressful-kiwis-stung-by-wrongful-facebook-and-instagram-bans/>
    from yesterdayrCOs news reports on people who have had their accounts on Instagram or Facebook (both owned by parent company Meta) suspended or
    banned for unknown reasons.
    <snip>

    Those lucky kiwis! If Facebook wants to ban my account,
    please do!

    I was "encouraged" to signup for Facebook by multiple people
    at work, so I made them happy.

    I left that company a few years ago so I tried deleting my ID
    without luck. I ended up posted something like "I will never
    use Facebook going forward".

    So Facebook, please ban me or tell me how I can get banned :)
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    - Paraphrasing Star Wars
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general on Thu Aug 21 21:32:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 01:45:41 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    This item ... reports on people who have had their accounts on
    Instagram or Facebook (both owned by parent company Meta) suspended
    or banned for unknown reasons.

    The saga continues, with more account blocks that seem just as
    arbitrary as those that have gone before <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kiwi-users-face-facebook-instagram-bans-in-metas-ai-enforcement-crackdown/DSZB2Q7IB5AONCLKIUWYOIKUGM/>.

    One thing I find sardonically funny is one suffering user is quoted
    as saying rCLthey need a better customer support systemrCY. Remember, if
    you are not paying for the service, then you are not the customer:
    you are the product.

    I have to amend that. A couple of the users mentioned in the latest
    article were in fact paying money for their accounts. But it seems
    their service was no better than that meted out to non-paying users.

    However, itrCOs clear the social media sites are trying to offer a
    service that is as profitable for themselves as possible. That means
    keeping costs down to a minimum. Which means heavy use of automatic
    systems, with as little human involvement as possible. So not only are
    the bans automatic, but even the appeals lodged by users against those
    bans are also handled automatically for the most part.

    Human intervention is being reserved only for the most important
    cases. And the most important cases are the ones that are likely to
    cause the most PR damage to the company.
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