• =?UTF-8?B?R292ZXJubWVudOKAmXM=?= Proposed E-RUC-tations

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Thu Aug 7 09:00:18 2025
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    So, what do you think of the idea of road-user-charges for all? The
    Government is trying to stem the decline in the roading revenue, currently mostly coming from taxes on fuel, by extending the RUC system to all
    vehicles, and making the payment system more automated (rCLE-RUCsrCY, I guess?). If they want more revenue, then we will end up paying more
    overall.

    Dropping the fuel tax entirely would get rid of a lot of the incentive to
    move to alternative power sources.
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  • From BR@blah@blah.blah to nz.general on Fri Aug 8 07:18:22 2025
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    On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 09:00:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    So, what do you think of the idea of road-user-charges for all? The >Government is trying to stem the decline in the roading revenue, currently >mostly coming from taxes on fuel, by extending the RUC system to all >vehicles, and making the payment system more automated (oE-RUCso, I
    guess?). If they want more revenue, then we will end up paying more
    overall.

    Dropping the fuel tax entirely would get rid of a lot of the incentive to >move to alternative power sources.

    What is the point of such an incentive?

    Petrol and diesel are far better than any alternatives. If these
    alternatives are really an improvement, then they will eventually
    displace petrol and diesel in the same way that cars and trucks
    displaced horses and carts.

    Bill.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Fri Aug 8 00:50:51 2025
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    On 2025-08-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    So, what do you think of the idea of road-user-charges for all? The Government is trying to stem the decline in the roading revenue, currently mostly coming from taxes on fuel, by extending the RUC system to all vehicles, and making the payment system more automated (rCLE-RUCsrCY, I guess?). If they want more revenue, then we will end up paying more
    overall.

    The Government has said that it wishes to rise more money for better roads
    and at the same time get the present system of RUC revamped.

    Once again the response to this will be; It is going to cost us more
    headines. Not are we willing to pay for better roads.

    Dropping the fuel tax entirely would get rid of a lot of the incentive to move to alternative power sources.

    Not if the RUC rate is high enough on EVs.

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