• Trump on Windmills

    From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Wed Jul 30 03:41:12 2025
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    Trump is certainly smarter about wind turbines than NZers are. Here
    is his commentary about windmills while announcing the new trade rules
    with EU, with Ursula von der Leyen (EU Prezzy) alongside. Key point:
    "You need subsidy for wind, and energy should not need subsidy. With
    energy, you make money, you donAt lose money."

    Trump speaks:

    "And the other thing I say to Europe, we will not allow a windmill to
    be built in the United States. TheyAre killing us. TheyAre killing
    the beauty of our scenery, our valleys, our beautiful plains. And IAm
    not talking about airplanes. IAm talking about beautiful plains, the
    beautiful areas in the United States. And you look up and you see
    windmills all over the place. ItAs a horrible thing. ItAs the most
    expensive form of energy. ItAs no good.

    "TheyAre made in China, almost all of them. When they start to rust
    and rot in eight years, you canAt really turn them off. You canAt
    bury them. They wonAt let you bury the propellers, you know, the
    props, because theyAre a certain type of fiber that doesnAt go well
    with the land. ThatAs what they say. The environmentalists say you
    canAt bury them because the fiber doesnAt go well with the land. In
    other words, if you bury it, it will harm our soil.

    "The whole thing is a con job. ItAs very expensive. And in all
    fairness, Germany tried it and, wind doesnAt work. You need subsidy
    for wind, and energy should not need subsidy. With energy, you make
    money, you donAt lose money.

    "But more important than that is it ruins the landscape. It kills the
    birds. TheyAre noisy. You know, you have a certain place in the
    Massachusetts area that over the last 20 years had one or two whales
    wash ashore and over the last short period of time they had 18, okay,
    because itAs driving them loco, itAs driving them crazy. Now,
    windmills will not come, itAs not going to happen in the United
    States, and itAs a very expensive ...

    "I would love to see, I mean, today IAm playing the best course I
    think in the world, Turnberry, even though I own it, itAs probably the
    best course in the world, right? And I look over the horizon and I
    see nine windmills. ItAs like right at the end of the 18. I said,
    "Isn't that a shame? What a shame." You have the same thing all over,
    all over Europe in particular. You have windmills all over the place.

    "Some of the countries prohibit it. But, people ought to know that
    these windmills are very destructive. TheyAre environmentally
    unsound. Just the exact opposite. Because the environmentalists,
    theyAre not really environmentalists, theyAre political hacks. These
    are people that, they almost want to harm the country. But you look
    at these beautiful landscapes all over all, over the the world. Many
    countries have gotten smart. They will not allow it. They will not.
    It's the worst form of energy, the most expensive form of energy.
    But, windmills should not be allowed. Okay?"

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Wed Jul 30 21:56:13 2025
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    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 03:41:12 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    "But more important than that is it ruins the landscape. It kills the
    birds. TheyrCOre noisy ..."

    But isnrCOt that how a Greenie would talk, prioritizing the environment over making a buck?
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Wed Jul 30 22:36:57 2025
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    On 2025-07-30, Willy Nilly <wn@nosuch.com> wrote:
    Trump is certainly smarter about wind turbines than NZers are. Here
    is his commentary about windmills while announcing the new trade rules
    with EU, with Ursula von der Leyen (EU Prezzy) alongside. Key point:
    "You need subsidy for wind, and energy should not need subsidy. With
    energy, you make money, you don-At lose money."


    So China is manking no money for the sale of solar cells to the USA?

    The susidy should not exist for all this "Net Zero", for it is the taxpayer, many of them not rich, who pays for this.

    Another point is that subsidies are making some rich, apart from the
    Chinese. While making the poor poorer.

    Still to date the majority have voted in the Governments they want. UK and Australia, among others.



    Trump speaks:

    "And the other thing I say to Europe, we will not allow a windmill to
    be built in the United States. They-Are killing us. They-Are killing
    the beauty of our scenery, our valleys, our beautiful plains. And I-Am
    not talking about airplanes. I-Am talking about beautiful plains, the beautiful areas in the United States. And you look up and you see
    windmills all over the place. It-As a horrible thing. It-As the most expensive form of energy. It-As no good.

    "They-Are made in China, almost all of them. When they start to rust
    and rot in eight years, you can-At really turn them off. You can-At
    bury them. They won-At let you bury the propellers, you know, the
    props, because they-Are a certain type of fiber that doesn-At go well
    with the land. That-As what they say. The environmentalists say you
    can-At bury them because the fiber doesn-At go well with the land. In
    other words, if you bury it, it will harm our soil.

    "The whole thing is a con job. It-As very expensive. And in all
    fairness, Germany tried it and, wind doesn-At work. You need subsidy
    for wind, and energy should not need subsidy. With energy, you make
    money, you don-At lose money.

    "But more important than that is it ruins the landscape. It kills the
    birds. They-Are noisy. You know, you have a certain place in the Massachusetts area that over the last 20 years had one or two whales
    wash ashore and over the last short period of time they had 18, okay,
    because it-As driving them loco, it-As driving them crazy. Now,
    windmills will not come, it-As not going to happen in the United
    States, and it-As a very expensive ...

    "I would love to see, I mean, today I-Am playing the best course I
    think in the world, Turnberry, even though I own it, it-As probably the
    best course in the world, right? And I look over the horizon and I
    see nine windmills. It-As like right at the end of the 18. I said,
    "Isn't that a shame? What a shame." You have the same thing all over,
    all over Europe in particular. You have windmills all over the place.

    "Some of the countries prohibit it. But, people ought to know that
    these windmills are very destructive. They-Are environmentally
    unsound. Just the exact opposite. Because the environmentalists,
    they-Are not really environmentalists, they-Are political hacks. These
    are people that, they almost want to harm the country. But you look
    at these beautiful landscapes all over all, over the the world. Many countries have gotten smart. They will not allow it. They will not.
    It's the worst form of energy, the most expensive form of energy.
    But, windmills should not be allowed. Okay?"

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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Thu Jul 31 00:37:51 2025
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    On 30 Jul 2025 22:36:57 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    Still to date the majority have voted in the Governments they want. UK and >Australia, among others.

    And what they vote for, they will get, good and hard. Wait for the
    first Europe-wide blackouts; Spain was just a forerunner.

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