• More success

    From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Thu Jul 24 00:31:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/567892/government-calls-infamous-everyone-must-go-campagin-a-winner

    Strange how some people do not realise that advertising is about getting people's attention. Sure it could have been a flop bit is had the elements
    of sucess built in.

    So for $800,000 investment the return was $22 million. Not a great deal in
    the billion of $ budgets but a good return nevertheless.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Thu Jul 24 01:33:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/567892/government-calls-infamous-everyone-must-go-campagin-a-winner

    Strange how some people do not realise that advertising is about getting >people's attention. Sure it could have been a flop bit is had the elements
    of sucess built in.

    So for $800,000 investment the return was $22 million. Not a great deal in >the billion of $ budgets but a good return nevertheless.
    Those who apposed or ridiculed the advert have no understanding of marketing or
    were biased or both. A rule if thumb is anything that works is OK in that discipline. And it worked - thanks Gordon.
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  • From Rich80105@Rich80105@hotmail.com to nz.general on Mon Jul 28 15:29:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On 24 Jul 2025 00:31:20 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/567892/government-calls-infamous-everyone-must-go-campagin-a-winner

    Strange how some people do not realise that advertising is about getting >people's attention. Sure it could have been a flop bit is had the elements
    of sucess built in.

    So for $800,000 investment the return was $22 million. Not a great deal in >the billion of $ budgets but a good return nevertheless.

    The campaign involved money from the government, paying to persuade
    tourists from Australia. The tourism industry has low profitability -
    usually regarded as in the range of 2% to 5% of revenue - and with
    'specials' reducing prices for this campaign those margins will have
    been squeezed a little below normal. So it is possible that $800,000
    profit did come through for the tourism industry, and in that sense
    the campaign can be regarded as a success - it may well have assisted
    survival of some parts of the industry.

    From memory a lot of the attention given to the advertising here arose
    from it being done at the same time as the government was telling a
    lot of New Zealanders, and particularly those involved in the building industry, as well as public sector employees, that "Everyone Must Go"
    - so we have lost between 30,000 and 45,000 permanent residents, and
    made it very hard to get construction work started again . . . Now
    that has been a flop . . .
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Mon Jul 28 04:02:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 24 Jul 2025 00:31:20 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/567892/government-calls-infamous-everyone-must-go-campagin-a-winner

    Strange how some people do not realise that advertising is about getting >>people's attention. Sure it could have been a flop bit is had the elements >>of sucess built in.

    So for $800,000 investment the return was $22 million. Not a great deal in >>the billion of $ budgets but a good return nevertheless.

    The campaign involved money from the government, paying to persuade
    tourists from Australia. The tourism industry has low profitability -
    usually regarded as in the range of 2% to 5% of revenue - and with
    'specials' reducing prices for this campaign those margins will have
    been squeezed a little below normal. So it is possible that $800,000
    profit did come through for the tourism industry, and in that sense
    the campaign can be regarded as a success - it may well have assisted >survival of some parts of the industry.
    Yes indeed, a good post from Gordon then.

    From memory a lot of the attention given to the advertising here arose
    from it being done at the same time as the government was telling a
    lot of New Zealanders, and particularly those involved in the building >industry, as well as public sector employees, that "Everyone Must Go"
    - so we have lost between 30,000 and 45,000 permanent residents, and
    made it very hard to get construction work started again . . . Now
    that has been a flop . . .
    Irrelevant. A new topic.

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  • From Rich80105@Rich80105@hotmail.com to nz.general on Mon Jul 28 16:27:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 04:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 24 Jul 2025 00:31:20 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/567892/government-calls-infamous-everyone-must-go-campagin-a-winner

    Strange how some people do not realise that advertising is about getting >>>people's attention. Sure it could have been a flop bit is had the elements >>>of sucess built in.

    So for $800,000 investment the return was $22 million. Not a great deal in >>>the billion of $ budgets but a good return nevertheless.

    The campaign involved money from the government, paying to persuade >>tourists from Australia. The tourism industry has low profitability - >>usually regarded as in the range of 2% to 5% of revenue - and with >>'specials' reducing prices for this campaign those margins will have
    been squeezed a little below normal. So it is possible that $800,000
    profit did come through for the tourism industry, and in that sense
    the campaign can be regarded as a success - it may well have assisted >>survival of some parts of the industry.
    Yes indeed, a good post from Gordon then.
    It is unusual to get a decision from this government that is even
    marginally acceptable, that this one was indicates that the relevant
    Minister (yes most would have to look up who that is) had little to do
    with the advertising - it only got attention here because of the
    contrast with ''persuading'' workers to go to Australia . . .


    From memory a lot of the attention given to the advertising here arose
    from it being done at the same time as the government was telling a
    lot of New Zealanders, and particularly those involved in the building >>industry, as well as public sector employees, that "Everyone Must Go"
    - so we have lost between 30,000 and 45,000 permanent residents, and
    made it very hard to get construction work started again . . . Now
    that has been a flop . . .
    Irrelevant. A new topic.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Mon Jul 28 08:20:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: nz.general

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 04:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 24 Jul 2025 00:31:20 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/567892/government-calls-infamous-everyone-must-go-campagin-a-winner

    Strange how some people do not realise that advertising is about getting >>>>people's attention. Sure it could have been a flop bit is had the elements >>>>of sucess built in.

    So for $800,000 investment the return was $22 million. Not a great deal in >>>>the billion of $ budgets but a good return nevertheless.

    The campaign involved money from the government, paying to persuade >>>tourists from Australia. The tourism industry has low profitability - >>>usually regarded as in the range of 2% to 5% of revenue - and with >>>'specials' reducing prices for this campaign those margins will have
    been squeezed a little below normal. So it is possible that $800,000 >>>profit did come through for the tourism industry, and in that sense
    the campaign can be regarded as a success - it may well have assisted >>>survival of some parts of the industry.
    Yes indeed, a good post from Gordon then.
    It is unusual to get a decision from this government that is even
    marginally acceptable, that this one was indicates that the relevant
    Minister (yes most would have to look up who that is) had little to do
    with the advertising - it only got attention here because of the
    contrast with ''persuading'' workers to go to Australia . . .
    That is laughably silly. Do try harder.


    From memory a lot of the attention given to the advertising here arose >>>from it being done at the same time as the government was telling a
    lot of New Zealanders, and particularly those involved in the building >>>industry, as well as public sector employees, that "Everyone Must Go"
    - so we have lost between 30,000 and 45,000 permanent residents, and
    made it very hard to get construction work started again . . . Now
    that has been a flop . . .
    Irrelevant. A new topic.

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