• Re: Eternal-september problems

    From HenHanna@HenHanna@devnull.tb to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Sat Aug 10 11:52:44 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On 8/10/2024 10:57 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    Ar an deichi|| l|i de m|! L||nasa, scr|!obh occam:

    > On 10/08/2024 08:12, Peter Moylan wrote:
    > > If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're not the
    > > only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption that leads
    > > to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just have to
    > > hope that it settles down soon.
    > >
    >
    > It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the reason
    > why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
    > (news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have eternal-september as
    > a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]

    I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they require a German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for that for them. They accept payment using Paypal, IrCOm not sure what they do in that event
    to confirm a German domicile.



    really? i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S (and TB).

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  • From guido wugi@wugi@brol.invalid to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Sat Aug 10 21:08:14 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Op 10-8-2024 om 20:52 schreef HenHanna:
    On 8/10/2024 10:57 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    -a Ar an deichi|| l|i de m|! L||nasa, scr|!obh occam:

    -a > On 10/08/2024 08:12, Peter Moylan wrote:
    -a > > If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're
    not the
    -a > > only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption
    that leads
    -a > > to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just
    have to
    -a > > hope that it settles down soon.
    -a > >
    -a >
    -a > It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the
    reason
    -a > why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
    -a > (news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have
    eternal-september as
    -a > a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]

    I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they
    require a
    German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for
    that for
    them. They accept payment using Paypal, IrCOm not sure what they do in
    that event
    to confirm a German domicile.



    really?-a-a i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S-a (and TB).

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it takes time,
    three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.
    --
    guido wugi

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  • From Boris@nospam@invalid.com to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Sun Aug 11 01:31:25 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote in news:v98dqv$sdie$1@dont-email.me:

    Op 10-8-2024 om 20:52 schreef HenHanna:
    On 8/10/2024 10:57 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    -a Ar an deichi|| l|i de m|! L||nasa, scr|!obh occam:

    -a > On 10/08/2024 08:12, Peter Moylan wrote:
    -a > > If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're
    not the
    -a > > only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption
    that leads
    -a > > to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just
    have to
    -a > > hope that it settles down soon.
    -a > >
    -a >
    -a > It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the
    reason
    -a > why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
    -a > (news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have
    eternal-september as
    -a > a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]

    I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they
    require a
    German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for
    that for
    them. They accept payment using Paypal, IrCOm not sure what they do in
    that event
    to confirm a German domicile.



    really?-a-a i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S-a (and TB).

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.


    Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the older
    articles comes back.

    Wonder if this will be fixed.
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Sun Aug 11 02:58:04 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:

    [...]

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.


    Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the older
    articles comes back.

    Wonder if this will be fixed.


    Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
    As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.
    --
    ^-^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

    My pet rock Gordon just is.
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  • From noreply@noreply@mixmin.net to news.software.readers on Sun Aug 11 03:16:12 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 01:31:25 -0000 (UTC), Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote: >Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to June >29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, I use >Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the older
    articles comes back.
    Wonder if this will be fixed.

    e-s could restore their server database, but until if/when that happens?
    this list is about three months old, but many of these free news servers
    have good retention for a year or more (e.g. blueworld is near 20 years):

    read-only test (using Tor Browser 13.5.2): http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=paganini.bofh.team&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: paganini.bofh.team (48696) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=freenews.netfront.net&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: freenews.netfront.net (47473) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.samoylyk.net&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.samoylyk.net (45909) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.dizum.net&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.dizum.net (45728) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.alphared.net&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.alphared.net (45728) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.blueworldhosting.com&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.blueworldhosting.com (45059) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.novabbs.org&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.novabbs.org (42485) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.i2pn2.org&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.i2pn2.org (42473) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.mixmin.net&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.mixmin.net (41841) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.alt119.net&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.alt119.net (40530) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.usenet.ovh&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.usenet.ovh (15322) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.chmurka.net&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.chmurka.net (3752) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.grc.com&btnsubmit=Go
    Server: news.grc.com (39) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.eternal-september.org&btnsubmit=Go >Server: news.eternal-september.org (12) *requires login, tor disabled

    there are probably dozens of other free news servers, some of which
    are known to work with tor and also use ssl/port 563, albeit posting
    via some of these free news servers may not work with or without tor
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  • From Boris@nospam@invalid.com to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Sun Aug 11 02:42:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in news:1qy3urs.ksuyhatn0tc0N%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:

    [...]

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
    recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
    takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.


    Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to
    June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see,
    I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
    older articles comes back.

    Wonder if this will be fixed.


    Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
    As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.


    Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org. Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.

    Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.
    --
    "If you don't like it, go on the internet and complain."

    B. Griffin
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Sun Aug 11 05:50:06 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote at 02:42 this Sunday (GMT):
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in news:1qy3urs.ksuyhatn0tc0N%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:

    [...]

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
    recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
    takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.


    Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to
    June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see,
    I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
    older articles comes back.

    Wonder if this will be fixed.


    Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
    As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.


    Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org. Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.

    Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.


    Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
    old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
    won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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  • From Silvano@Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it to alt.usage.english, news.software.readers on Sun Aug 11 08:56:20 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    candycanearter07 hat am 11.08.2024 um 07:50 geschrieben:
    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote at 02:42 this Sunday (GMT):
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in
    news:1qy3urs.ksuyhatn0tc0N%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:

    [...]

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
    recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it
    takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.


    Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to >>>> June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, >>>> I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
    older articles comes back.

    Wonder if this will be fixed.


    Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
    As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.


    Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org.
    Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.

    Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.


    Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
    old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
    won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^


    Learnt the hard way after losing interesting messages. If you want to
    keep old messages, copy them to a folder on _your_ computer. Server
    problems and closures will not bother you anymore.

    And make a backup to an external disk to be doubly sure. I still have
    messages from 2014 here.

    P.S. I don't read NSR, but this discussion is more relevant to that NG.
    So I don't set a follow-up, because I'd like to read the continuation.




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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Sun Aug 11 13:10:40 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On 11/08/2024 07:56, Silvano wrote:
    candycanearter07 hat am 11.08.2024 um 07:50 geschrieben:
    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote at 02:42 this Sunday (GMT):
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in
    news:1qy3urs.ksuyhatn0tc0N%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:

    [...]

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
    recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it >>>>>> takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.


    Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to >>>>> June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, >>>>> I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
    older articles comes back.

    Wonder if this will be fixed.


    Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
    As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.

    Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org. >>> Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.

    Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.

    Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
    old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
    won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^

    Learnt the hard way after losing interesting messages. If you want to
    keep old messages, copy them to a folder on _your_ computer. Server
    problems and closures will not bother you anymore.

    Or a router which has decided to play up just when you need it!

    And make a backup to an external disk to be doubly sure. I still have messages from 2014 here.

    +1
    --
    Jeff

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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@devnull.tb to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Mon Aug 12 10:25:23 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On 8/10/2024 11:52 AM, HenHanna wrote:
    On 8/10/2024 10:57 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    -a Ar an deichi|| l|i de m|! L||nasa, scr|!obh occam:

    -a > On 10/08/2024 08:12, Peter Moylan wrote:
    -a > > If the eternal-september is behaving strangely for you, you're
    not the
    -a > > only one. I suspect that there's been a database corruption that
    leads
    -a > > to our being served with duplicate articles. I guess we just
    have to
    -a > > hope that it settles down soon.
    -a > >
    -a >
    -a > It's a good free service, with occasional hiccups. This is the reason >> -a > why I switched to an alternative (almost free) service
    -a > (news.individual.net) a few years ago. I still have eternal-
    september as
    -a > a backup. [This message is sent, courtesy of E-S.]

    I use news.individual.net and am very happy with it. In theory they
    require a
    German domicile and my German IBAN from N26 is sufficient proof for
    that for
    them. They accept payment using Paypal, IrCOm not sure what they do in
    that event
    to confirm a German domicile.



    really?-a-a i'm not seeing any problems (recently) with E-S-a (and TB).



    i see the problem... NOW... i click on a MSG from June and it's gone.

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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Mon Aug 26 16:40:04 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote at 06:56 this Sunday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 hat am 11.08.2024 um 07:50 geschrieben:
    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote at 02:42 this Sunday (GMT):
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in
    news:1qy3urs.ksuyhatn0tc0N%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

    Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:

    [...]

    My (and others') E-S newsgroups lost most of their content, only
    recent messages were kept. Someone will try to restore them but it >>>>>> takes time, three weeks for a start. See in e-s.support.


    Most of the newsgroups I subscribe to now only retain articles back to >>>>> June 29, 2024. Retention used to be way back to 2022. As you can see, >>>>> I use Xnews. I've tried "Refresh Headers Special", but none of the
    older articles comes back.

    Wonder if this will be fixed.


    Ray Banana, the E-S Admin, is working on it; it's a big job.
    As mentioned, see eternal-september.support for details.


    Thanks. I was looking for a 'support' tab on www.eternal-september.org. >>> Finally realized to go to the newsgroup you cite.

    Looks like Ray Banana has a big job. Hope it's not toast.


    Besides rec.arts.comics.creative, I don't entirely care about conserving
    old messages, but I do hope he can get everything sorted out and we
    won't lose more recent messages in the jump ^^


    Learnt the hard way after losing interesting messages. If you want to
    keep old messages, copy them to a folder on _your_ computer. Server
    problems and closures will not bother you anymore.

    And make a backup to an external disk to be doubly sure. I still have messages from 2014 here.

    P.S. I don't read NSR, but this discussion is more relevant to that NG.
    So I don't set a follow-up, because I'd like to read the continuation.


    Right, I use slrn's built in "save message" option.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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  • From Keith@User@invalid.invalid to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Mon Aug 26 19:30:04 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote at 06:56 this Sunday (GMT):


    What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?


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  • From Silvano@Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it to alt.usage.english, news.software.readers on Mon Aug 26 21:46:55 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Keith hat am 26.08.2024 um 21:30 geschrieben:
    Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote at 06:56 this Sunday (GMT):


    What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?


    Your question is more relevant to NSR, which I don't read. I'm not candycanearter07 and I don't know how he did it, but I know that in
    Thunderbird you can use about:config to configure the FROM line as you wish.

    Please don't ask me which are the right parametres. I did it many years
    ago and I've long forgotten how.
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  • From Bernd Rose@b.rose.tmpbox@arcor.de to news.software.readers on Tue Aug 27 06:24:58 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On 26th Aug 2024 19:30:04 GMT, Keith wrote:

    Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote at 06:56 this Sunday (GMT):

    What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?

    The slrn reply_string uses strftime(3) formatting codes:

    https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.29 https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.28 https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/strftime.3.html

    Full day name of the week would therefore be displayed with %A variable.

    HTH.
    Bernd
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  • From Keith@User@invalid.invalid to news.software.readers on Tue Aug 27 13:00:03 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On 2024-08-27, Bernd Rose <b.rose.tmpbox@arcor.de> wrote:
    On 26th Aug 2024 19:30:04 GMT, Keith wrote:

    Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote at 06:56 this Sunday (GMT): >>
    What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?

    The slrn reply_string uses strftime(3) formatting codes:

    https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.29 https://slrn.info/docs/slrn-manual.html#toc6.28 https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/strftime.3.html

    Full day name of the week would therefore be displayed with %A variable.

    HTH.
    Bernd


    Thank you.


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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to alt.usage.english,news.software.readers on Tue Aug 27 19:30:08 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote at 19:46 this Monday (GMT):
    Keith hat am 26.08.2024 um 21:30 geschrieben:
    Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> wrote at 06:56 this Sunday (GMT): >>

    What slang script do you use to create a FROM with the day of the week?


    Your question is more relevant to NSR, which I don't read. I'm not candycanearter07 and I don't know how he did it, but I know that in Thunderbird you can use about:config to configure the FROM line as you wish.

    Please don't ask me which are the right parametres. I did it many years
    ago and I've long forgotten how.


    Here's part of my config:
    --~/.slrnrc--
    set followup_date_format "%R this %A (%Z)"
    set followup_string "%r <%f> wrote at %D:"
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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