• Newsgrouper update

    From Colin Macleod@user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid to news.software.readers on Thu Jul 31 09:56:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    I've updated the software behind https://newsgrouper.org/ to a new version which I believe handles historical search much better. However to do this
    I had to renumber all groups. This has the unfortunate side effect that
    any groups you have previously read will now show all articles as new.
    This will correct itself once you go into a group and then back to the home page.

    On a group page, clicking Search now takes you to a flat (non-threaded) list
    of posts. You can then filter this list by Subject, Author and/or Date range. For some groups the available posts go back to the 1980s.
    --
    Colin Macleod ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ https://cmacleod.me.uk

    We shall not cease from exploration
    And the end of all our exploring
    Will be to arrive where we started
    And know the place for the first time. - T.S.Eliot
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  • From J@J@M to news.software.readers on Thu Jul 31 20:12:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 09:56:36 GMT, Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    I've updated the software behind https://newsgrouper.org/ to a new version >which I believe handles historical search much better. However to do this
    I had to renumber all groups. This has the unfortunate side effect that
    any groups you have previously read will now show all articles as new.
    This will correct itself once you go into a group and then back to the home page.
    On a group page, clicking Search now takes you to a flat (non-threaded) list >of posts. You can then filter this list by Subject, Author and/or Date range. >For some groups the available posts go back to the 1980s.

    it really works great, better than any web-based interface with usenet newsgroups
    that i've ever used (since dejanews, and the early days of googlegroups before it
    started going haywire ever since their "beta" operation commenced circa 29nov2004,
    after which g-groups only became increasingly unpredictable and de facto unusable,
    except for googlespam, which reminded the usenet world that the usenet troll farm
    has always utilized every available newsserver on earth to enforce the status quo,
    but finally this article <7e2a356c-8313-45c1-a12c-44bd4f0ba39cn@googlegroups.com>
    posted to news:microsoft.public.security.virus 22 feb 2024 15:08:15 +0, was their
    swan song; they're still using all the other nntp servers of course, yet it's not
    upwards of 2gb per day but back down to ~1.5gb per month, a trickle by comparison

    the "message id" search is very handy, and "top twenty" list includes a newsgroup
    that i've been subscribed to since 1997 (as with any other busy newsgroup, it too
    has been under troll farm occupation for aeons, but some forums are still useful)

    https://newsgrouper.org/tops
    Top twenty groups most read here
    ...
    alt.privacy.anon-server Issues surrounding programs that aid anonymity. 1%
    https://newsgrouper.org/alt.privacy.anon-server

    hopefully, newsgrouper.org will continue to be available for everyone looking for
    convenient access to usenet (especially since novabbs/i2pn2 rocksolid was closed)
    and the blueworld server has excellent article retention, going back two decades

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  • From Billy G. (go-while)@no-reply@no.spam to news.software.readers on Sun Aug 3 17:44:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 09:56:36 GMT, Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    I've updated the software behind https://newsgrouper.org/ to a new version which I believe handles historical search much better.
    ..
    For some groups the available posts go back to the 1980s.

    that's really great! did you find anything good in the archive?


    On 31.07.25 20:12, D wrote:
    hopefully, newsgrouper.org will continue to be available for everyone looking for
    convenient access to usenet (especially since novabbs/i2pn2 rocksolid was closed)


    check this out! :)

    https://rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net

    https://novabbs.pugleaf.net

    https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net
    --
    .......
    Billy G. (go-while)
    https://pugleaf.net
    @Newsgroup: rocksolid.nodes.help
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  • From J@J@M to news.software.readers on Sun Aug 3 21:56:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 17:44:50 +0200, "Billy G. (go-while)" <no-reply@no.spam> wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 09:56:36 GMT, Colin Macleod ><user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    I've updated the software behind https://newsgrouper.org/ to a new version >> which I believe handles historical search much better.
    ..
    For some groups the available posts go back to the 1980s.

    that's really great! did you find anything good in the archive?

    On 31.07.25 20:12, D wrote:
    hopefully, newsgrouper.org will continue to be available for everyone looking for
    convenient access to usenet (especially since novabbs/i2pn2 rocksolid was closed)

    check this out! :)
    https://rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net
    https://novabbs.pugleaf.net
    https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net

    "i2pn2" opened after redirect . . . looks quite technical, way above my
    simple level of understanding or common usage of text usenet newsgroups

    (using Tor Browser 14.5.5)
    https://rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net
    Unable to connect

    (using Tor Browser 14.5.5)
    https://novabbs.pugleaf.net
    Unable to connect

    (using Tor Browser 14.5.5)
    https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/
    go-pugleaf
    RetroBBS NetNews Server
    Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy
    Welcome to go-pugleaf NNTP to Web Gateway
    A modern, secure, high-performance Go-based NNTP newsgroup system
    ...
    Usenet
    https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/hierarchies
    Unable to connect
    [end quoted excerpts]

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  • From J@J@M to news.software.readers on Mon Aug 4 04:02:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 17:44:50 +0200, "Billy G. (go-while)" <no-reply@no.spam> wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 09:56:36 GMT, Colin Macleod ><user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    I've updated the software behind https://newsgrouper.org/ to a new version >> which I believe handles historical search much better.
    ..
    For some groups the available posts go back to the 1980s.

    that's really great! did you find anything good in the archive?

    On 31.07.25 20:12, D wrote:
    hopefully, newsgrouper.org will continue to be available for everyone looking for
    convenient access to usenet (especially since novabbs/i2pn2 rocksolid was closed)

    check this out! :)
    https://rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net
    https://novabbs.pugleaf.net
    https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net

    p.s.

    because of your very helpful reply in <688f9b3c$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
    earlier today (2024-08-03), this "onion" host really does work for connecting to
    the "newsdeef.eu" news server ... it's like gg but without gg getting in the way,
    everything is there, full raw text articles that make it very easy to browse and
    search, and the conventional host "lux-feed1.newsdeef.eu" works just as smoothly . . .

    access via TOR
    3nxvtk6l6fvjel6egccgo5zcerivvvz27ahsdjthvxc7focidpr2xlyd.onion
    Port 119 | user: read | pass: only

    lux-feed1.newsdeef.eu
    Port: 119 or 563 (SSL)
    user: read
    pass: only

    success! this onion address works for localhost (using omnimix): >3nxvtk6l6fvjel6egccgo5zcerivvvz27ahsdjthvxc7focidpr2xlyd.onion

    sampled article headers in obscure newsgroup "ab.general" show:
    path: archive.newsdeef.eu!archive!apf8.newsdeef.eu!nnrp.usenet...
    ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^

    so this "onion" should work with any newsreader on localhost/127.0.0.1 using tor e.g. on port 9150, i've always used tor browser but omnimix also has tor

    browsing encryption-related newsgroups, alt.privacy, alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.security, alt.security.pgp, sci.crypt, etc., (sci.crypt ~1155351 headers, oldest article 1986-10-10) reveals the overall signal-to-noise ratio improves with age, with spam gradually increasing, then skyrocketing after circa ~2000 depending on the newsgroup of course . . . politics and religion is the worst

    usenet archives are invaluable, this is the first "onion" nntp i've ever used

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