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Recently, the Apple trolls have been brazenly denying that Apple has touted iPhone efficiency which is akin to denying the sun comes up in the morning.

Everyone who knows anything knows the sun comes up in the morning, right?
But not the Apple trolls.

How can that be?
The answer is that the Apple trolls are *different* from normal people.
a. They're uneducated to the core
b. Hence, they're ignorant of everything
c. But worse, they are religious zealots who defend Apple to the death

Given those three traits, they claim the sun can't come up in the morning. Because if it did, it would prove that Apple was wrong about efficiency.

Worse, these Apple trolls ask us to prove to them that the sun comes up in
the morning, which is more evidence of the Apple troll key character flaw.
A. They can't even look it up.
B. They just brazenly deny it.
C. And ask us to prove it to them.

The key character flaw of all Apple trolls is highlighted by the fact that
they not only are ignorant of Apple's claims, but worse, they brazenly deny that the sun comes up in the morning - and tell us to prove it to them.

Why can't the Apple trolls just look it up first (before denying it)?

It's bad enough the Apple trolls have been living in a cave all these
years, such that they know absolutely nothing about Apple products.

Yet, they brazenly deny that the sun comes up in the morning.
Which proves my point after all about Apple trolls being inherently stupid.

The Apple troll is (a) uneducated, and (b) ignorant, but worse, they are
(c) so religious that they defend Apple to the death, no matter what.

To the point that they claim Apple never touted iPhone efficiency.
Which is absurd.

This fact is what is wrong with all these ignorant uneducated Apple trolls.
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 07:23:05 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

When Apple touts efficiency but can't meet the same benchmark that
nearly every major Android OEM has, it's fair to question the narrative.

Where's the evidence that Apple "touts" this?

Chris,

Here's the problem with all of you Apple trolls, including you, although,
of all Apple trolls, you do seem to have the most critical thinking skills.

There isn't an intelligent well-informed person on this planet who isn't
fully & completely aware that Apple loudly touts efficiency of the iPhone.

Don't you ever think that you Apple trolls appear to be ignorant fools
when you brazenly deny what nobody well informed would think of denying?

Why do you think I constantly claim you Apple trolls are stupid, Chris?
You clearly are completely ignorant of what Apple claims on efficiency.

Worse - you trolls spend all your energy denying what nobody would deny. Instead of just looking it up.

This fact that you Apple trolls are completely blissfully unaware of what nobody who is well informed is unaware of, is what tells me what you are.

Why do I have to look up references to prove to you the sun rises in the morning, Chris, when you could look it up yourself before denying it.

The fact I have to look this up for you proves my point that you Apple
trolls have been told your entire lives that you're stupid, Chris.

Only a stupid person would brazenly deny that the sun comes up in the
morning, just like only a stupid person would brazenly deny that Apple has frequently touted efficiency - which everyone but the Apple trolls knows.

Look it up.
Stop proving to me that all you Apple trolls are incredibly stupid, Chris.

Look it up.
Stop brazenly denying what nobody but an Apple troll would brazenly deny.

Look it up.
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 18:04:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :

Look it up.

Stop brazenly denying what nobody but an Apple troll would brazenly deny.

Look it up.

Note that I'm not ever saying iPhones are efficient (in fact, I'm
saying the opposite - which is that iPhones are NOT efficient).

However, what matters for this conversation is what Apple says.

Apple's Product Use Overall Electricity Efficiency Strategy (2024)
"Making our products more energy efficient reduces their carbon
emissions. Our work on efficiency began well over a decade ago
and remains an essential part of our environmental strategy
going forward. We approach energy efficiency in the earliest
phases of design, taking a holistic view of each product - from
how efficiently the software operates to the power requirements
of individual components."
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apples_Product_Use_Electricity_Strategy.pdf>

"Built for efficiency, the A13 Bionic also enables great battery
life for iPhone SE."
<https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/04/iphone-se-a-powerful-new-smartphone-in-a-popular-design/>

"The Apple-designed A13 Bionic sets a new bar for smartphone
performance and power efficiency."
<https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/09/iphone-11-pro-and-iphone-11-pro-max-the-most-powerful-and-advanced-smartphones/>

This quote is from Greg Joswiak, Apple's Senior VP of Worldwide
Marketing as it's a direct & authoritative statement from Apple
linking efficiency to battery life via the A16 chip.

"Both models include a new Super Retina XDR display with ProMotion
that features the Always-On display for the first time ever on
iPhone, enabled by a new 1Hz refresh rate and multiple
power-efficient technologies."
<https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/09/apple-debuts-iphone-14-pro-and-iphone-14-pro-max/>

"And with the incredibly powerful and efficient A16 Bionic chip
and all-day battery life, this is the best iPhone yet."
<https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/09/apple-debuts-iphone-14-pro-and-iphone-14-pro-max/>

This one is related to their chip design efficiency.
"Our custom silicon is designed for maximum performance and
energy efficiency, helping reduce the power draw of our
devices without sacrificing capability."
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_Progress_Report_2023.pdf>

This one is related to all their product design.
"Apple products are consistently rated by ENERGY STAR, which sets specifications that
reflect the 25 percent most energy-efficient devices on the market."
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apples_Product_Use_Electricity_Strategy.pdf>

This is a third-party summary of Apple's design improvements
which reflects Apple's own messaging over time.
"Through a combination of bigger batteries and greater efficiency,
Apple has drastically improved iPhone battery life over the years."
<https://www.macworld.com/article/2473371/battery-life-iphone-16-pro-plus-max.html>

iPhone 14 product environmental report uses efficiency a dozen times!
"We design our products to be energy efficient, long-lasting, and safe.
iPhone 14 uses software and power-efficient components that
intelligently manage power consumption."
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPhone_14_PER_Sept2022.pdf>

iPhone 13 product environmental report uses efficiency a dozen times!
"Energy efficient, 56% less energy consumed"
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPhone_13_mini_PER_Sept2021.pdf>

"Energy efficient - 57% less energy consumed"
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPhone_14_PER_Sept2022.pdf>

"Energy efficient"
"6-core CPU with 2 performance and 4 efficiency cores"
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/111872>

Product Environmental Report
iPhone 12
Date introduced
October 13, 2020
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPhone_12_PER_Oct2020.pdf>

Note the very adult reality that these well-known and obviously
from Apple iPhone marketing summaries use the word "efficient"
literally a dozen times in 9 pages. Yes. More than once per page.

Product Environmental Report
iPhone 14
Date introduced
September 7, 2022
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPhone_14_PER_Sept2022.pdf>

Product Environmental Report
iPhone 13 mini
Date introduced
September 14, 2021
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPhone_13_mini_PER_Sept2021.pdf>

Product Environmental Report
iPhone 13
Date introduced
September 14, 2021
<https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/iphone/iPhone_13_PER_Sept2021.pdf>

Apple Marketing isn't stupid.
It's no accident they used the word "efficient" a dozen times in 9 pages.

Marketing *repeated* the word "efficient" a dozen times to put into
people's brains that the iPhone is "efficient". They're not stupid.

Note I'm NOT saying the iPhone is efficient.
I'm saying Apple is trying to make you think it is.

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 10:30:19 -0400, badgolferman wrote :

We had many conversations about
this and people like the "expert" nospam told us repeatedly Touch ID was inferior because it could be duplicated. I don't even remember you then
so I don't know what you said.

Hi badgolferman,

As you know, I study these strange abnormally low-IQ Apple trolls.
The Apple trolls are strange people who make no sense save to themselves.

In the case of Alan Baker, he'll always forget everything he has talked
about if it doesn't fit his defense-of-everything-Apple agenda.

So it doesn't matter one iota that you've discussed this a billion times
with people like Alan Baker because either he's so incredibly low IQ that
he can't remember/understand any facts about Apple, or, he's conveniently "forgetting" that he's discussed this with you a thousand times.

It's hard to tell since he's so incredibly stupid anyway.

I've never in my life met someone as dumb as Alan Baker, who doesn't even
know the first thing about anything - not even the cars he says he owns nor
the 'racing' he says he teaches (yet he has no clue what a curve is).

What's DIFFERENT about nospam though, is nospam actually knew stuff.
It was just that nospam lied all the time to defend Apple to the death.

While the end result is the same, the overarching difference is that Alan
Baker actually is incredibly stupid while nospam just brazenly lied.

What's the same is both defended Apple to the death, no matter what.

What's also VERY MUCH TRHE SAME is they both are not intelligent in how
they did it because (and this is important) they NEVER kept the same
argument twice.

What I mean by that is you'll see all my arguments are consistent, e.g., privacy or security or strategy, etc., but all the arguments of the Apple trolls are ad hoc manufactured on the spot - to fit their defense of Apple.

So if Apple does "A" to accomplish "B", both trolls will claim it's for
reason "C"; but if Apple then does "X" to accomplish "Y", then they'll conveniently claim "Z" was the reason.

There is no consistency to the arguments of the Apple trolls.
That's because they have low IQ (all of them).

They simply defend using the first argument that comes to their mind.

Hence, nospam would have said ANYTHING to defend Apple's touch-id changes.
So would Alan Baker. As do all the low-IQ ignorant uneducated Apple trolls.

None are consistent.
Which is how I know that they all have substandard IQs.

They can't keep track of their own arguments. They're that stupid.

If you're trying to have an intelligent conversation with me, for example,
I can keep track of all my arguments because they all make logical sense.

Theirs don't.
Not only that, they don't even REMEMBER their own arguments.

Because they just make up their excuses for Apple on the fly.
Today their excuse for Touch-ID going away is reason X.
Tomorrow it's reason Y.

It's simply the first thing that comes to their mind to defend Apple.
Tomorrow, they'll think of a different excuse & forget the one from today.

Just watch.
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