• Who Needs A Smartphone???

    From Agent...@"Agent..."@Matrix.org to mail2news on Wed Oct 8 19:07:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA


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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Thu Oct 9 09:16:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-10-08 19:07:07 +0000, Mr Anderson said:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Or even better, no mobile phone at all. According to some reports, more
    and more people are ditching mobile phones entirely and returning to
    landlines instead.

    Personally, I've never needed nor had a mobile phone.

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  • From Jim the Geordie@jim@geordieland.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Thu Oct 9 00:58:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 08/10/2025 21:16, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 19:07:07 +0000, Mr Anderson said:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Or even better, no mobile phone at all. According to some reports, more
    and more people are ditching mobile phones entirely and returning to landlines instead.

    Personally, I've never needed nor had a mobile phone.

    Here in the UK landlines are being phased out unless you have a
    broadband hub.
    --
    Jim the Geordie
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Thu Oct 9 04:11:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 08.10.25 22:16, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 19:07:07 +0000, Mr Anderson said:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Or even better, no mobile phone at all. According to some reports, more
    and more people are ditching mobile phones entirely and returning to landlines instead.

    Personally, I've never needed nor had a mobile phone.

    But pretending to know about smartphones! *ROTFLSTC*
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Thu Oct 9 04:14:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 09.10.25 01:58, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    On 08/10/2025 21:16, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 19:07:07 +0000, Mr Anderson said:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Or even better, no mobile phone at all. According to some reports, more
    and more people are ditching mobile phones entirely and returning to
    landlines instead.

    Personally, I've never needed nor had a mobile phone.

    Here in the UK landlines are being phased out unless you have a
    broadband hub.

    IP-Telephony is basically a wire-based smartphone-telephony.
    Landlines do not exist anymore on the continent.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Thu Oct 9 15:15:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-10-08 23:58:30 +0000, Jim the Geordie said:
    On 08/10/2025 21:16, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-10-08 19:07:07 +0000, Mr Anderson said:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Or even better, no mobile phone at all. According to some reports, more
    and more people are ditching mobile phones entirely and returning to
    landlines instead.

    Personally, I've never needed nor had a mobile phone.

    Here in the UK landlines are being phased out unless you have a broadband hub.

    New Zealand has gotten rid of of the old copper network in most of the
    major population areas and plans to close the whole thing down by 2030. Landlines can be cheapily added to most internet plans or as a landline
    only plan if you don't need internet.

    Local landline calls to other landlines through whichever system are
    free for residential customers. It's only when calling other cities,
    countries or to mobile phones that you have to pay a per minute charge
    (and that's capped at a certain price point for up to two hours).
    Unlike mobile phone calls, where you pay per minute for *every* call
    (although of course most mobile phone plans come with an allocation of
    "free" minutes, "free" texts, and "free" data).


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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Oct 9 03:39:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Oct 8, 2025 at 3:07:07rC>PM EDT, "Mr Anderson" <"Agent..."@Matrix.org> wrote:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    No they don't.

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    Only Luddites would do that. Same people who want a horse and buggy instead of a car.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Because EVERYTHING on youtube is real and believable. Speaking of "frying brains".
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 9 18:43:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-10-09 03:39:15 +0000, Tyrone said:
    On Oct 8, 2025 at 3:07:07rC>PM EDT, "Mr Anderson"
    <"Agent..."@Matrix.org> wrote:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    No they don't.

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    Only Luddites would do that. Same people who want a horse and buggy instead of
    a car.

    Those who want a horse and buggy won't want a cellphone at all, and
    probably not a landline phone either.

    Most people who are switching to a "dumbphone" simply have no interest
    in mucking about on apps and idiotic "social media" 24-7, so why pay
    the excessive price and over-complication of a smartphone, when a
    cheaper and easier to use "dumbphone" is more than enough for them.
    :-)




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Because EVERYTHING on youtube is real and believable. Speaking of "frying brains".


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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 9 08:58:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Your Name, 2025-10-09 07:43:

    [...]
    Most people who are switching to a "dumbphone" simply have no interest
    in mucking about on apps and idiotic "social media" 24-7, so why pay
    the excessive price and over-complication of a smartphone, when a
    cheaper and easier to use "dumbphone" is more than enough for them.
    :-)

    Well - I do not have *any* "social media" on my smartphone and still I
    need it for every day tasks. I think, the addiction to social media is
    more problem for younger people.
    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de
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  • From Fritz Wuehler@fritz@spamexpire-202510.rodent.frell.theremailer.net to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Oct 9 12:46:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Most people who are switching to a "dumbphone" simply have no interest
    in mucking about on apps and idiotic "social media" 24-7, so why pay
    the excessive price and over-complication of a smartphone, when a
    cheaper and easier to use "dumbphone" is more than enough for them.
    :-)

    My 30 bucks 'Red Phone' is a lot smaller than the more or less smart
    ones lying around here, fits in my pocket without causing pressure marks
    or getting broken and contents itself with a charge every other week.

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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 9 11:06:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

    I think, the addiction to social media is
    more problem for younger people.




    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all the
    middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.
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  • From sms@scharf.steven@geemail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 9 08:01:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 10/8/2025 11:58 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:

    <snip>

    Well - I do not have *any* "social media" on my smartphone and still I
    need it for every day tasks. I think, the addiction to social media is
    more problem for younger people.
    Exactly. Though a lot of adults are addicted to social media too.

    There are just so many other tasks that can't be easily accomplished
    without a smart phone. It makes things a little tough for the technology challenged.

    It's also often the case that you pay less for things when you use your
    phone to order or pay.

    Because of labor costs, many restaurants have a QR code on the table
    that brings up the menu and lets you order and pay. It's time-consuming
    and difficult to get a real menu and to place an order.

    Cash is no longer accepted at many venues, you must use tap to pay or a
    credit card. Now, reverse ATMs are being put in where you can buy a
    tap-to-pay card using cash. I see this at places like stadiums where concessions no longer take cash.

    For Costco, I put the EAN-13 bar code, from my card on my phone's lock
    screen, so I can scan in without having to bring up the Costco app
    (which generates a QR code that changes every time).

    Some credit cards give you more cash back for tap to pay, including the
    Apple Mastercard (2% instead of 1%), and a card I have from U.S. Bank
    (3% cash back for tap to pay). Note that the Apple Card is actually not
    a very good deal since there are plenty of no-annual-fee credit cards
    that give 2% back on everything).

    There are some more esoteric applications as well. Two stores I go to
    have these extremely annoying shopping carts with wheels that lock up if
    you go past a wire embedded in the pavement, even though parking lots by
    the store, immediately on the other side of the wire, are regularly used
    by customers. I tap one icon on my phone, and presto, the cart wheel
    unlocks.

    When traveling to other countries, Google Translate and Google Lens are invaluable, as are mapping apps and transit apps.

    Here's a list of things that a smart phone can replace, but there are
    probably a lot more that I didn't think of:
    rCo Airline Tickets
    rCo ATM / Debit / Credit Cards
    rCo Barcode Scanners
    rCo Birth Control
    rCo Board Games
    rCo Books
    rCo Business Cards
    rCo Calculators
    rCo Calendars
    rCo Camcorders
    rCo Cameras
    rCo Car Keys
    rCo Clocks / Alarm Clocks
    rCo Compasses
    rCo Contact Lists / Phone Books
    rCo Credit cards
    rCo Credit Card Scanners
    rCo Dictionaries
    rCo eBook Readers
    rCo Encyclopedias
    rCo Flashlights
    rCo Game Controllers
    rCo Gaming Devices
    rCo GPS
    rCo Guitar Tuners
    rCo House Keys
    rCo Land-line Internet
    rCo Landline Phones
    rCo Levels
    rCo Light Meters
    rCo Maps
    rCo Measuring Tapes
    rCo Membership Cards
    rCo Menus
    rCo Newspapers
    rCo Notepads
    rCo Paper Money / Coins
    rCo Photo Albums
    rCo Portable Music Players
    rCo Portable Video Players
    rCo Radios
    rCo Remote Controllers
    rCo Scanners
    rCo Shopping Cart Unlockers
    rCo Sketchpads
    rCo Thermostats
    rCo Timers
    rCo Transit tickets and passes
    rCo USB Thumbdrives
    rCo Voice Recorders
    rCo Walkie Talkies
    rCo Watches
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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Thu Oct 9 19:12:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    In message <10c6grd$1rub1$1@dont-email.me>
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2025-10-08 19:07:07 +0000, Mr Anderson said:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Or even better, no mobile phone at all. According to some reports, more
    and more people are ditching mobile phones entirely and returning to landlines instead.

    Personally, I've never needed nor had a mobile phone.

    My wife and I hadn't used our land line for several years. The only
    incoming calls were from scammers. So, finally, a few months back,
    we ditched the land line and now only use our smartphones, which are
    far more useful than the landline ever was.

    David
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Oct 9 20:53:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 09.10.25 05:39, Tyrone wrote:
    On Oct 8, 2025 at 3:07:07rC>PM EDT, "Mr Anderson" <"Agent..."@Matrix.org> wrote:

    Smartphones fry your brains!

    No they don't.

    Would you ditch a smartphone for a 'dumbphone'? | BBC News...

    Only Luddites would do that. Same people who want a horse and buggy instead of
    a car.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ufAjOR4MA

    Because EVERYTHING on youtube is real and believable. Speaking of "frying brains".

    +1
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 9 20:56:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 09.10.25 07:43, Your Name wrote:
    Those who want a horse and buggy won't want a cellphone at all, and
    probably not a landline phone either.

    Wrong. You have no clue what the Amish and the Mennonites really want
    and have: Cellphones.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 9 20:58:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 09.10.25 13:06, badgolferman wrote:
    Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

    I think, the addiction to social media is
    more problem for younger people.




    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all the
    middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their screens
    when you stalk them?
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From Anonymous User@noreply@dirge.harmsk.com to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Oct 9 16:16:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    My wife and I hadn't used our land line for several years. The only
    incoming calls were from scammers. So, finally, a few months back,
    we ditched the land line and now only use our smartphones, which are
    far more useful than the landline ever was.

    Yeah, I did that too, 23 years ago.

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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 9 21:25:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    J||rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all
    the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me
    are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while
    ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left
    turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not constrained
    to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact
    is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Fri Oct 10 16:39:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:

    J||rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all
    the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me
    are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left
    turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not constrained
    to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact
    is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand
    for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons
    doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully
    tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there
    will still be morons who don't care less.


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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Fri Oct 10 07:03:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:

    J|a-|rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all
    the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me
    are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while
    ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left
    turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not constrained
    to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact
    is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand
    for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully
    tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there
    will still be morons who don't care less.


    In the UK, you get points on your licence and a fine.


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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Fri Oct 10 19:08:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:03:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:

    J|a-|rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all
    the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me
    are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while
    ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left
    turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not
    constrained to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact
    is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand
    for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons
    doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully
    tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there
    will still be morons who don't care less.


    In the UK, you get points on your licence and a fine.

    I find it ironic that a laptop is an essential feature of a modern police cruiser. In the 25 years or so that I've worked in the public safety
    sector it's went from a very simplistic status display to a full blown
    system. Of course, an officer would never be screwing around with the
    laptop while driving. :)

    It's probably a personal shortcoming but I find screwing around with the visual display to change a channel, select the USB input, and so forth to
    be distracting. I'm not sure that is an improvement on the old pushbutton radios.

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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Fri Oct 10 20:18:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:03:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:

    J|a-|rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all >>>>>> the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me >>>> are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while
    ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left >>>> turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not
    constrained to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact >>>> is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand
    for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons
    doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully
    tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there
    will still be morons who don't care less.


    In the UK, you get points on your licence and a fine.

    I find it ironic that a laptop is an essential feature of a modern police cruiser. In the 25 years or so that I've worked in the public safety
    sector it's went from a very simplistic status display to a full blown system. Of course, an officer would never be screwing around with the
    laptop while driving. :)

    It's probably a personal shortcoming but I find screwing around with the visual display to change a channel, select the USB input, and so forth to
    be distracting. I'm not sure that is an improvement on the old pushbutton radios.


    I'm sure that it isn't.

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Sat Oct 11 09:35:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-10-10 19:08:12 +0000, rbowman said:
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:03:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:

    J||rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all >>>>>> the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me >>>> are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while
    ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left >>>> turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not
    constrained to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact >>>> is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand
    for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons
    doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully
    tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there
    will still be morons who don't care less.

    In the UK, you get points on your licence and a fine.

    I find it ironic that a laptop is an essential feature of a modern police cruiser. In the 25 years or so that I've worked in the public safety
    sector it's went from a very simplistic status display to a full blown system. Of course, an officer would never be screwing around with the
    laptop while driving. :)

    It's probably a personal shortcoming but I find screwing around with the visual display to change a channel, select the USB input, and so forth to
    be distracting. I'm not sure that is an improvement on the old pushbutton radios.

    So many people complained about silly touch sensitive buttons on the
    steering wheel controls and the console air conditioning controls, that carmakers started replacing them with proper buttons and knobs again.

    My 1994 car has a cassette radio in it (the original factory one). :-)



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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Sat Oct 11 09:53:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:03:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:

    J||rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all
    the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me
    are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while
    ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left
    turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not
    constrained to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact
    is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand
    for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons
    doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully
    tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there
    will still be morons who don't care less.

    In the UK, you get points on your licence and a fine.

    In New Zealand there is a fine of a measly NZ$150 (UKu64 / US$86) and
    20 demerit points.

    In Australia (depending on which state) there is a fine is nearly ten
    times more at NZ$1415 (UKu608 / US$820) and 5 demerit points.

    In New Zealand if you get 100 points in any two year period, your
    licence is suspended for three months. In Australia, it is 12 points in
    a three year period. Demerit points are pretty useless since noboy
    knows how many they've got unless they keep a tally or check (and what law-breaking idiot is ever going to bother), plus some people will
    still drive after they lose their licence anyway. A proper fine means
    they'll usually notice the missing money pretty quickly, especially in
    today's ever-incresing prices for everything.


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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Fri Oct 10 22:22:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    In message <mkt3srFucsbU2@mid.individual.net>
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

    It's probably a personal shortcoming but I find screwing around with the visual display to change a channel, select the USB input, and so forth to
    be distracting. I'm not sure that is an improvement on the old pushbutton radios.

    On my car - and with many modern cars - this is all available by voice
    control. Not a feature I asked for, or even thought about when I was
    choosing a car, but now I've got it, I can verify that it is useful.

    David
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  • From AJL@noemail@none.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Fri Oct 10 14:55:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 10/10/2025 12:08 PM, rbowman wrote:

    I find it ironic that a laptop is an essential feature of a modern
    police cruiser. In the 25 years or so that I've worked in the public
    safety sector it's went from a very simplistic status display to a
    full blown system.

    When I started my 25 years in 1967 all we had for communication was the
    car mounted police radio. In cop training we were told that when we left
    the cruiser for a stop or interrogation to leave the car door open and
    hang the mike cord over it so that if we needed help it was quicker to
    get to. Those were the days...

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Sat Oct 11 14:43:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-10-10 20:35:41 +0000, Your Name said:
    On 2025-10-10 19:08:12 +0000, rbowman said:
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:03:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:
    J||rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all >>>>>>> the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me >>>>> are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while >>>>> ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of >>>>> you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic >>>>> ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't >>>>> stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left >>>>> turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not
    constrained to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact >>>>> is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand >>>> for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons >>>> doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully >>>> tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there >>>> will still be morons who don't care less.

    In the UK, you get points on your licence and a fine.

    I find it ironic that a laptop is an essential feature of a modern police
    cruiser. In the 25 years or so that I've worked in the public safety
    sector it's went from a very simplistic status display to a full blown
    system. Of course, an officer would never be screwing around with the
    laptop while driving. :)

    It's probably a personal shortcoming but I find screwing around with the
    visual display to change a channel, select the USB input, and so forth to
    be distracting. I'm not sure that is an improvement on the old pushbutton
    radios.

    So many people complained about silly touch sensitive buttons on the steering wheel controls and the console air conditioning controls, that carmakers started replacing them with proper buttons and knobs again.

    My 1994 car has a cassette radio in it (the original factory one). :-)

    Here's another one that showed up in today's junk emails ...

    The idiots at Tesla removed the turn signal stalk from the steering
    column in their cars and replaced it with silly touch buttons on the
    steering wheel. Pretty much nobody liked this pointless change, so now
    you can get a turn signal stalk installed ... for an extra fee of
    US$600 (because it includes the stalk, the new controller system, a replacement steering wheel without the buttons, and installation at a
    service centre). They did a similar money grab idiot change a while
    back to replace the awful yoke with a proper steering wheel.

    Just yet another reason Tesla cars are ridiculous garbage that nodoby
    should buy (and more and more people are finally realising that).


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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Sat Oct 11 11:00:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:03:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-10-09 21:25:37 +0000, badgolferman said:

    J|a-|rg Lorenz wrote:

    Not necessarily. Just drive around town for 20 minutes and see all >>>>>> the middle aged women staring at their phones as they drive.

    How would you know what they are really doing? Can you see their
    screens when you stalk them?

    I ride a motorcycle so I must be hyper aware of what drivers around me >>>> are doing. Yes, I do look inside their cars and see their heads
    pointed down to their laps or phones being held out to the side while
    ignoring the road in front. You can also tell when someone ahead of
    you is looking at their phone. They cannot keep up with the traffic
    ahead of them and leave large gaps, they drive erratically and can't
    stay in their lane. Sitting at an intersection waiting to make a left >>>> turn I can see drivers turn in front of me and immediately start
    looking at their phones again. This is an epidemic and not
    constrained to just young people.

    What does it matter what they're looking at on their phones? The fact >>>> is their attention is on something else than the road and they are
    placing others in danger. Are you one of them too?

    It's been illegal to drive while using a cellphone here in New Zealand
    for a good number of years now, and yet there are still numerous morons
    doing it. The problem is that the fine if they get caught is pitifully
    tiny. The law needs to be changed to simply destory the phone on the
    spot when someone is caught using it while driving ... even then there
    will still be morons who don't care less.

    In the UK, you get points on your licence and a fine.

    In New Zealand there is a fine of a measly NZ$150 (UK-u64 / US$86) and
    20 demerit points.

    In Australia (depending on which state) there is a fine is nearly ten
    times more at NZ$1415 (UK-u608 / US$820) and 5 demerit points.

    UK is similar to Oz. Usually 6 points (out of 12 allowed over three years)
    and -u200 fine.

    If you're a new driver that results in an instant ban and a requirement to retake your test.

    In New Zealand if you get 100 points in any two year period, your
    licence is suspended for three months. In Australia, it is 12 points in
    a three year period. Demerit points are pretty useless since noboy
    knows how many they've got unless they keep a tally or check (and what law-breaking idiot is ever going to bother), plus some people will
    still drive after they lose their licence anyway. A proper fine means they'll usually notice the missing money pretty quickly, especially in today's ever-incresing prices for everything.

    If they have the money. A large fine is no good if the person has no cash
    in the first place.
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  • From Yamn3 Remailer@noreply@mixmin.net to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat Oct 11 18:36:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    I do like the lane change 3 to 5 blinks button. It is quite handy
    rather than having to hold down the turn indicator lever.

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  • From Fritz Wuehler@fritz@spamexpire-202510.rodent.frell.theremailer.net to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat Oct 11 20:00:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    US$86

    Fines are levied by each U.S. state.

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  • From Fritz Wuehler@fritz@spamexpire-202510.rodent.frell.theremailer.net to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat Oct 11 20:36:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    I find it ironic that a laptop is an essential feature of a modern
    police
    cruiser. In the 25 years or so that I've worked in the public safety
    sector it's went from a very simplistic status display to a full
    blown
    system. Of course, an officer would never be screwing around with the
    laptop while driving. :)

    It's probably a personal shortcoming but I find screwing around with
    the
    visual display to change a channel, select the USB input, and so
    forth to
    be distracting. I'm not sure that is an improvement on the old
    pushbutton
    radios.

    I drove big rigs for a while. I had a laptop setup on the passenger
    seat to keep track of where I was on the highway and record mileages
    when crossing state lines. I had to discipline myself to not look at
    it for more 2 seconds at a time. It is amazing how quickly a vehicle
    can start heading towards disaster.

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy.anon-server on Sun Oct 12 10:33:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-10-11 18:36:00 +0000, Fritz Wuehler said:

    I find it ironic that a laptop is an essential feature of a modern police
    cruiser. In the 25 years or so that I've worked in the public safety
    sector it's went from a very simplistic status display to a full blown
    system. Of course, an officer would never be screwing around with the
    laptop while driving. :)

    It's probably a personal shortcoming but I find screwing around with the
    visual display to change a channel, select the USB input, and so forth to
    be distracting. I'm not sure that is an improvement on the old pushbutton
    radios.

    I drove big rigs for a while. I had a laptop setup on the passenger
    seat to keep track of where I was on the highway and record mileages
    when crossing state lines. I had to discipline myself to not look at
    it for more 2 seconds at a time. It is amazing how quickly a vehicle
    can start heading towards disaster.

    Even two seconds can be far too long and more than enough time for
    someone else to do something stupid right in front of your moving
    vehicle. :-(

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sun Oct 12 00:54:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 20:36:00 +0200, Fritz Wuehler wrote:

    I drove big rigs for a while. I had a laptop setup on the passenger
    seat to keep track of where I was on the highway and record mileages
    when crossing state lines. I had to discipline myself to not look at it
    for more 2 seconds at a time. It is amazing how quickly a vehicle can
    start heading towards disaster.

    High tech!. I had a digital voice recorder for the mileage when I crossed state lines but that was back in the '90s. I don't think I would make it
    today with electronic log books, GPS trackers, and so forth. I had certain cowboy tendencies.

    Sort of on topic for the mobile groups -- I would have given my left nut
    for a cell phone. Trying to find a working pay phone when you're driving a
    65' long RV wasn't fun.
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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Mon Oct 13 11:34:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    J||rg Lorenz, 2025-10-09 20:56:

    On 09.10.25 07:43, Your Name wrote:
    Those who want a horse and buggy won't want a cellphone at all, and
    probably not a landline phone either.

    Wrong. You have no clue what the Amish and the Mennonites really want
    and have: Cellphones.

    And this is allowed? I though even a landline phone is not allowed for
    Amish, at least not for everyone.
    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de
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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Mon Oct 13 12:09:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
    J||rg Lorenz, 2025-10-09 20:56:

    On 09.10.25 07:43, Your Name wrote:
    Those who want a horse and buggy won't want a cellphone at all, and
    probably not a landline phone either.

    Wrong. You have no clue what the Amish and the Mennonites really want
    and have: Cellphones.

    And this is allowed? I though even a landline phone is not allowed for
    Amish, at least not for everyone.



    According to Mr. GooglerCa

    https://www.google.com/search?q=do+amish+and+menonites+allow+cell+phones&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS841US861&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.mobile.android on Mon Oct 13 18:11:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 11:34:39 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote:

    J||rg Lorenz, 2025-10-09 20:56:

    On 09.10.25 07:43, Your Name wrote:
    Those who want a horse and buggy won't want a cellphone at all, and
    probably not a landline phone either.

    Wrong. You have no clue what the Amish and the Mennonites really want
    and have: Cellphones.

    And this is allowed? I though even a landline phone is not allowed for
    Amish, at least not for everyone.

    Different communities, different rules. Can you have rubber tires on a
    buggy? Can you use a windmill to pump water?

    Many of the RV factories in northern Indiana are staffed by Amish workers. They come to work in buggies and use modern tools to build stuff they
    would use. Sometimes the anachronisms are jarring. I remember one young
    Amish guy smoking a cigarette with a can of Coke in his hand. Many of the Calvinist mainstream religions forbid smoking, and the LDS is ambivalent
    about the range of the 'hot beverages' proscription.

    I sometimes shop at a store run by Hutterites, another Anabaptist branch.
    I had another strange moment when the girl at the cash register pulled her cellphone out of her traditional floral print dress.


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  • From Anonymous User@noreply@dirge.harmsk.com to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Oct 16 10:33:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    High tech!. I had a digital voice recorder for the mileage when I
    crossed
    state lines but that was back in the '90s.

    I had and used one of those also. I couldn't drive today also with electronic logging. I cheated almost daily while driving so that I
    could sleep consistent nighttime hours. Not consistently sleeping at
    night will wreck one's health because the body only produces melatonin
    while sleeping at night. I drove for 25 years and never got a single
    log violation or speeding ticket.

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Oct 16 18:39:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 10:33:10 -0400, Anonymous User wrote:

    High tech!. I had a digital voice recorder for the mileage when I
    crossed
    state lines but that was back in the '90s.

    I had and used one of those also. I couldn't drive today also with electronic logging. I cheated almost daily while driving so that I
    could sleep consistent nighttime hours. Not consistently sleeping at
    night will wreck one's health because the body only produces melatonin
    while sleeping at night. I drove for 25 years and never got a single
    log violation or speeding ticket.

    I used to run LA to Denver straight through. I'd get into Denver Sunday afternoon, back into the dock for the Monday delivery, have supper and get
    a good night sleep. Legally I should have been twiddling my thumbs for 8
    hours in Salina UT or some other fascinating place.
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