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I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the solid notifications like
before but cannot find a way to change that. Does anyone know how to
fix it?
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On 2025-09-16 09:59, badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the solid notifications like
before but cannot find a way to change that. Does anyone know how to
fix it?

<https://tech.yahoo.com/phones/article/liquid-glass-too-clear-heres-how-to-reduce-the-transparency-on-your-iphones-screen-in-ios-26-111920158.html>
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badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

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On 16 Sep 2025 at 20:11:52 BST, ""Blueshirt"" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

I too propose to try and learn to love it as it is. If I really get pissed off I'll try reducing transparency. But it's early days!

Old John.
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Am 17.09.25 um 11:06 schrieb John Hill:

On 16 Sep 2025 at 20:11:52 BST, ""Blueshirt"" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

I too propose to try and learn to love it as it is. If I really get pissed off
I'll try reducing transparency. But it's early days!

This attitude makes life definitely easier and happier in the long run.
I handle it the same way.
--
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass. https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass. https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is
around the corner?

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On 2025-09-17, Cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is around the corner?

I'm betting the release notes explain that...
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

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On Sep 17, 2025 at 4:26:46rC>PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2025-09-17, Cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is
around the corner?

I'm betting the release notes explain that...

Of course. 18.7 is mainly for older devices that can't update to 26. But its also for people like me who don't jump on new versions of ANYTHING on Day 1.
As always, I'll wait until 26.2.1 or so. Things should have settled down by then.

Also, not sure I like the glass. To me, stuff on top of blurred stuff is just ugly. This needs to be a user setting, like light mode/dark mode. Its not for everyone.

OTOH, these updates are always optional. iOS 13 was such a dumpster fire that I skipped it entirely. Apple does not force you to install anything.
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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass. https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

Devs have been obsessing with transparency effects within productivity environments for decades. It makes absolutely no sense for anything with
text. I just don't get it why they keep flogging this.

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Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:

On Sep 17, 2025 at 4:26:46rC>PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2025-09-17, Cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at. >>>>
This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac >>>

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is >>> around the corner?

I'm betting the release notes explain that...

Of course. 18.7 is mainly for older devices that can't update to 26. But its also for people like me who don't jump on new versions of ANYTHING on Day 1.
As always, I'll wait until 26.2.1 or so. Things should have settled down by then.

Also, not sure I like the glass. To me, stuff on top of blurred stuff is just
ugly. This needs to be a user setting, like light mode/dark mode. Its not for
everyone.

OTOH, these updates are always optional. iOS 13 was such a dumpster fire that
I skipped it entirely. Apple does not force you to install anything.

It was not optional for my work phone. I had to install it or get cut off
from the work network. My personal phone however has 18.7.1 for now.

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On Sep 17, 2025 at 5:38:55rC>PM EDT, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:

On Sep 17, 2025 at 4:26:46rC>PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2025-09-17, Cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at. >>>>>
This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac >>>>

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is >>>> around the corner?

I'm betting the release notes explain that...

Of course. 18.7 is mainly for older devices that can't update to 26. But its
also for people like me who don't jump on new versions of ANYTHING on Day 1. >> As always, I'll wait until 26.2.1 or so. Things should have settled down by >> then.

Also, not sure I like the glass. To me, stuff on top of blurred stuff is just
ugly. This needs to be a user setting, like light mode/dark mode. Its not for
everyone.

OTOH, these updates are always optional. iOS 13 was such a dumpster fire that
I skipped it entirely. Apple does not force you to install anything.

It was not optional for my work phone. I had to install it or get cut off from the work network. My personal phone however has 18.7.1 for now.

That's a very different issue than Apple enforcing it on everyone.

I just updated my work phone to 18.7. I did not see 18.7.1.
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Cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is around the corner?

No all phones on 18 can upgrade to 26. The Xr, Xs and Xs Max specifically.

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Chris wrote:

Iove just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is
around the corner?

No all phones on 18 can upgrade to 26. The Xr, Xs and Xs Max specifically.

Just to state a fact which Apple trolls are resistant to, Apple herself was forced by security researchers to openly finally admit Apple will only
fully update a single release, the current release only, for all known
bugs. <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

That every OEM, Apple included, randomly fixes bugs in older releases is meaningless in terms of being fully protected for all known exploits.

There's a reason the iPhone is the most exploited smartphone in history.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

In that report for 2024 are 12 iOS exploits versus 9 for Android where
Apple's QA is so inept that many exploits happen in multiple releases.
<https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/state-backed-attackers-and-commercial-surveillance-vendors-repeatedly-use-the-same-exploits/>

Apple never advertises that their QA is atrociously inept to the point that much of the iOS code has been proven to never have ever been tested.
<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>
"Beer noted 'cases of code which seems to have never worked' and
'likely skipped QA or had little testing' before shipping."

<https://www.vice.com/en/article/google-project-zero-bugs-used-to-hack-iphones-and-android-phones/>
"TAG noted that some iOS bugs were 'long-lived' and exploitable
across multiple OS generations, implying insufficient fuzzing
or regression testing."

<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/the-many-possibilities-of-cve-2019-8646.html>
Silvanovich stated that certain iMessage parsers lacked basic bounds
checks and appeared never to have been fuzz tested.

<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2020/09/jitsploitation-three.html>
"Researchers noted that some vulnerable code paths were 'reachable only
through malformed inputs unlikely to be covered by standard QA.'"

The result of Apple never having even once sufficiently tested much of
their iOS code is that any iPhone NOT able to take the latest release is so toxic that it should probably be thrown over the next bridge you drive
over. Think about that every time you drive over a bridge from now on.
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On 17. Sep 2025 at 22:09:05 CEST, "Cameo" <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is around the corner?

Because a lot of people are hesitant to upgrade to a new system right away.
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On 2025-09-17 20:47:11 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Sep 17, 2025 at 4:26:46rC>PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2025-09-17, Cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at. >>>>
This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac >>>

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is >>> around the corner?

I'm betting the release notes explain that...

Of course. 18.7 is mainly for older devices that can't update to 26.

Yep.

Despite what the local village idiot "Arlen" likes to believe, Apple
does actually continue supporting some of the the older OS versions for
a while longer with important fixes, even after a new one is released.

For example, iPadOS had an update to 17.7.10 (yes, 17) only a month
ago, even though iPadsOS 18 was released a year ago.

But its also for people like me who don't jump on new versions of
ANYTHING on Day 1. As always, I'll wait until 26.2.1 or so. Things
should have settled down by then.

Also, not sure I like the glass. To me, stuff on top of blurred stuff is just
ugly. This needs to be a user setting, like light mode/dark mode. Its not for
everyone.

Yep. It's another example of the designers' "form over function" idocy
that has affected Apple since the bad days of Johny Ive. :-(

OTOH, these updates are always optional. iOS 13 was such a dumpster fire that
I skipped it entirely. Apple does not force you to install anything.

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On 09/17/2025 16:50, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

Devs have been obsessing with transparency effects within productivity environments for decades. It makes absolutely no sense for anything with text. I just don't get it why they keep flogging this.

The more I use this, the more I hate it. I've got Reduce Transparency
and Enhance Contrast enabled and it's still difficult to read
Notifications on the Lock Screen. There really is no inherent advantage
to this new Liquid Glass design other than justifying someone's job at
Apple. This new design lends credence to those who claim Apple cares
more about form than function.
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Am 17.09.2025 um 16:54 schrieb badgolferman:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass. https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac

After two days with this cheap looking GUI I reduced transparency. It
helps a little but it is far from the perfect GUI on 18.
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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/17/2025 16:50, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at.

This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac >>>

Devs have been obsessing with transparency effects within productivity
environments for decades. It makes absolutely no sense for anything with
text. I just don't get it why they keep flogging this.

The more I use this, the more I hate it. I've got Reduce Transparency
and Enhance Contrast enabled and it's still difficult to read
Notifications on the Lock Screen. There really is no inherent advantage
to this new Liquid Glass design other than justifying someone's job at
Apple. This new design lends credence to those who claim Apple cares
more about form than function.

Actually, I am thinking of going back to Android after testing iOS since
iPhone 15 came out.
I like the Android UI more intuit0ve and just better than iOS.

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On 2025-09-18 18:56:27 +0000, Cameo said:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/17/2025 16:50, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at. >>>>
This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac >>>

Devs have been obsessing with transparency effects within productivity
environments for decades. It makes absolutely no sense for anything with >>> text. I just don't get it why they keep flogging this.

The more I use this, the more I hate it. I've got Reduce Transparency
and Enhance Contrast enabled and it's still difficult to read
Notifications on the Lock Screen. There really is no inherent advantage
to this new Liquid Glass design other than justifying someone's job at
Apple. This new design lends credence to those who claim Apple cares
more about form than function.

Actually, I am thinking of going back to Android after testing iOS since iPhone 15 came out.
I like the Android UI more intuit0ve and just better than iOS.

On the rare occasions I've had to use Android OS, I've found it ugly,
slow, and inconsistent. iOS / iPadOS is much much better to use, even
with the disgustingly silly new "liquid glass" skin on top.


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On 18.09.25 20:56, Cameo wrote:

Actually, I am thinking of going back to Android after testing iOS since iPhone 15 came out.
I like the Android UI more intuit|!ve and just better than iOS.

Seriously?
I have a Pixel 7 with Android 16 and an iPhone 14. I would never ever
come to the same conclusion: Android is buggy, counterintuitive,
insecure and in particular inconsistent in its appearance. Particularly compared to iOS. Android is a little bit like Windows on the desktop
computer world.

Cu, J||rg
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mi moi Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-09-17 20:47:11 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Sep 17, 2025 at 4:26:46rC>PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2025-09-17, Cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 09/16/2025 15:11, Blueshirt wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

I installed iOS 26 on my work phone and I don't like the
see through notifications on the Home screen. I want the
solid notifications like before but cannot find a way to
change that. Does anyone know how to fix it?

When I do update to iOS 26 I don't think I'll 'fix' it... I
like what I am seeing of the "liquid glass" effect so far.

You may like it but I don't. It makes everything else hard to look at. >>>>>
This article explains well the shortcomings of Liquid Glass.
https://www.theverge.com/apple/778197/liquid-glass-iphone-watch-ipad-mac >>>>

IrCOve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is >>>> around the corner?

I'm betting the release notes explain that...

Of course. 18.7 is mainly for older devices that can't update to 26.

Yep.

Despite what the local village idiot "Arlen" likes to believe, Apple
does actually continue supporting some of the the older OS versions for
a while longer with important fixes, even after a new one is released.

Correct. He also doesn't understand that any version of ios supports many generations of models and drops support from newer ios versions very
slowly.

For example, iPadOS had an update to 17.7.10 (yes, 17) only a month
ago, even though iPadsOS 18 was released a year ago.

The only difference in older model support between iPadOS 17 & 18 is the
ipad 6th gen. Notably a 7 year-old device. There must be enough active ones
out there for Apple to patch.

In contrast iOS 17 has had only three updates since the release of 18
because all iOS 17 compatible devices are also compatible with iOS 18.

iOS 15 & 16 received an update this week, interestingly.

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Marion <marionf@fact.com> wrote:

Chris wrote:

Ia+eve just got iOS 18.7 today. Why did they bother with it if iOS 26 is >>> around the corner?

No all phones on 18 can upgrade to 26. The Xr, Xs and Xs Max specifically.

Just to state a fact which Apple trolls are resistant to, Apple herself was forced by security researchers to openly finally admit Apple will only
fully update a single release, the current release only, for all known
bugs. <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

[Factcheck: no-one forced apple to do that]

There's a reason the iPhone is the most exploited smartphone in history.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

[Factcheck: not a fact. The CISA is an incomplete source and cannot be
relied on for absolute statements]

In that report for 2024 are 12 iOS exploits versus 9 for Android

[Factcheck: those numbers are incorrect. It's 7 for iOS vs 6 for Android.]

Arlen is likely using the website's keyword search for "iOS" which picks up cisco's IOS, Fortinet's FortiOS and QNAP's VioStar. lol.
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J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 18.09.25 20:56, Cameo wrote:

Actually, I am thinking of going back to Android after testing iOS since
iPhone 15 came out.
I like the Android UI more intuit|!ve and just better than iOS.

Seriously?
I have a Pixel 7 with Android 16 and an iPhone 14. I would never ever
come to the same conclusion: Android is buggy, counterintuitive,
insecure and in particular inconsistent in its appearance. Particularly compared to iOS. Android is a little bit like Windows on the desktop computer world.

Cu, J||rg

Well, I intend to keep ny iPhone,too, at least for a while. I need some
vital apps that exist on either one, or on the other OS. So thatrCOs a good reason for me to keep both phones for now.

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On 19.09.25 15:48, Cameo wrote:

J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 18.09.25 20:56, Cameo wrote:

Actually, I am thinking of going back to Android after testing iOS since >>> iPhone 15 came out.
I like the Android UI more intuit|!ve and just better than iOS.

Seriously?
I have a Pixel 7 with Android 16 and an iPhone 14. I would never ever
come to the same conclusion: Android is buggy, counterintuitive,
insecure and in particular inconsistent in its appearance. Particularly
compared to iOS. Android is a little bit like Windows on the desktop
computer world.

Cu, J||rg

Well, I intend to keep ny iPhone,too, at least for a while. I need some
vital apps that exist on either one, or on the other OS. So thatrCOs a good reason for me to keep both phones for now.

You will have the maximum benefit in case you have more Apple devices
and the you use the iCloud extensively. The high integration makes work
with an iPhone great fun.
--
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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Chris wrote:

Apple

does actually continue supporting some of the the older OS versions for
a while longer with important fixes, even after a new one is released.

Correct. He also doesn't understand that any version of ios supports many generations of models and drops support from newer ios versions very
slowly.

I understand both iOS & Android support better'n any of you Apple trolls.

Apple clearly has the worst bugfix support of all common operating systems.
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

When it comes to security fixes, Apple's established policy is that only
the latest major OS release is fully patched for all known vulnerabilities.

For example, iPadOS had an update to 17.7.10 (yes, 17) only a month
ago, even though iPadsOS 18 was released a year ago.

The only difference in older model support between iPadOS 17 & 18 is the
ipad 6th gen. Notably a 7 year-old device. There must be enough active ones out there for Apple to patch.

Every OS OEM vendor patches older releases when they feel it necessary.

Older iOS versions - even ones Apple is still "supporting" with occasional updates do not get every fix. They only receive selective patches for the
most severe or actively exploited flaws.

That's why when Apple pushes something like iOS 15.8.5 in 2025, it's not because they're maintaining iOS 15 in parallel, it's an exception for a high-impact bug affecting a large installed base of older devices.

We can refer to them as "exception patches", which are great, but you Apple trolls need to understand that every OS vendor releases exception patches.

Recent Microsoft Windows "Exception" Security Patches (unsupported
versions)

1. 2023-10-10 Windows Server 2012 / 2012 R2
Patched multiple critical vulnerabilities including CVE-2023-44487
(HTTP/2 Rapid Reset DoS)
Official end of support was Oct 2023, but fix released anyway

2. 2023-07-11 Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1
Patched actively exploited SmartScreen security feature bypass
(CVE-2023-32046)
ESU program ended Jan 2023, but Microsoft issued an out-of-band
fix due to exploitation

3. 2022-09-13 Windows Server 2008 SP2
Patched critical Remote Procedure Call Runtime RCE (CVE-2022-26809)
Support ended Jan 2020, but fix released nonetheless

4. 2021-07-06 Windows XP SP3 and Windows Server 2003
Emergency patch for PrintNightmare vulnerability (CVE-2021-34527)
Support ended in 2014/2015, but Microsoft issued rare XP/2003 patch
due to active exploitation

5. 2019-05-14 Windows XP SP3 and Windows Server 2003
Patched BlueKeep RDP vulnerability (CVE-2019-0708)
Wormable flaw prompted Microsoft to release updates for XP/2003
despite long EOL

6. 2017-03-14 Windows XP SP3 and Windows Server 2003
Patched SMBv1 flaw later exploited by WannaCry (CVE-2017-0144)
Out-of-band updates released in May 2017 after attacks began

In contrast iOS 17 has had only three updates since the release of 18
because all iOS 17 compatible devices are also compatible with iOS 18.

You Apple trolls don't even realize that every OEM OS vendor does that.

Here is a list of recent exception patches for older iOS versions.
Recent iOS "Exception" Security Patches (unsupported versions)

1. 2025-09-15 iOS 15.8.5
Fixed zero-day in ImageIO (CVE-2025-43300)
Arbitrary code execution via malicious images
Same flaw patched in iOS 26 and iOS 18.7

2. 2025-09-15 iOS 16.7.12
Same ImageIO zero-day fix for iPhone 8 / X era devices
Devices that cannot run iOS 18 or iOS 26

3. 2025-03-31 iOS 15.8.4 and iOS 16.7.11
Emergency WebKit zero-day patch
Actively exploited in the wild

4. 2023-01-23 iOS 12.5.7
Patched WebKit RCE flaw
Targeted very old devices (iPhone 5s, 6, iPad Air 1)

5. 2019-07-22 iOS 9.3.6 and iOS 10.3.4
GPS rollover bug fix
Prevented location services from breaking

iOS 15 & 16 received an update this week, interestingly.

What you Apple trolls don't understand is every OS vendor does exception patches of unsupported releases, just as Apple just patched iOS 15, which
is 3 major versions behind & officially unsupported for full hotfixes.

Recent Android "Exception" Security Patches for unsupported versions are

1. 2025-09-05 Android 12 / 12L
Patched two actively exploited zero-days:
CVE-2025-38352 (Kernel privilege escalation)
CVE-2025-48543 (Android Runtime sandbox escape)
Security support for Android 12 ended Mar 2025, but fix was backported
via OEM updates and Google Play system modules

2. 2024-08-05 Android 11
Patched critical libwebp vulnerability (CVE-2023-4863)
Remote code execution via malicious images
Even as Android 11 support ended Feb 2024

3. 2023-09-05 Android 10
Patched actively exploited kernel vulnerability (CVE-2023-35674)
Allowed privilege escalation from apps to system
Android 10 support ended Mar 2023, but fix issued for select devices

4. 2022-09-06 Android 8.1 and 9
Patched critical Bluetooth RCE flaw (CVE-2022-20345)
Exploitable without user interaction
Support for these versions had ended, but patch released for Android Go
and some enterprise devices

5. 2019-07-01 Android 5.1 and 6.0
Patched high-profile media framework bug (Stagefright-related)
Remote code execution via crafted media files
Support ended years earlier, but fix pushed to Android nonetheless
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