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On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:27:47 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

That is an assertion unsupported by any facts.

You remind me of this guy that I debate sports with. I back up my points
with actual cites and examples, but all he does is say ┤nopeí without actually debating the topic or providing counter cites.

Hi badgolferman,

As you know, I study the people who post to this newsgroup, where it's so unnatural how desperate the uneducated Apple trolls are to deny facts.

Who on earth would deny that official legal EU/UK regulations that were
years in the making with input from all the OEMS and which were extremely
well publicized in the news (I knew about them since about 2021 or so) and where the official testing agencies were included all along... happened.

Who would deny that which nobody sensible who knew anything would deny?

Only these uneducated Apple trolls do that on this newsgroup, right?
Why?

Specifically, why are Apple trolls claiming that this legal EPREL database suddenly "just happened" to Apple - as if Apple didn't even know about it?

What kind of person requires us to prove that fundamental fact to them?
(Just like as with your sports friend.)

Do they seriously think that by casting aspersions on the entire formal
legal process (which was years in the making), that they can then deny the basic fact that all Android OEMs managed to earn at least one A in
efficiency, while none of the Apple iPhones could achieve that efficiency?

What kind of person does that?
Why can't they simply accept that Apple was part of the process all along?
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On 7/3/2025 1:36 PM, Alan wrote:

And if one examines Apple devices' actual numbers (not the letter
rating, but the endurance times), one can easily see that Apple has
rounded down the numbers.

What are you trying to say?
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On 2025-07-04 10:53:29 +0000, -hh said:

On 7/3/25 13:34, Marion wrote:

{snip!}
Look. Your entire argument is that of an emotional religious zealot, hh.
You are trying to say twenty dollar Androids fared worse than the iPhone.

Where in "almost every Android" is there any price constraint?

You're goalpost dragging. Again.

-hh

More like knuckle-dragging, as usual for that "Arlen" / "Marion" moron.

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On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 10:04:31 +1200, Your Name wrote :

More like knuckle-dragging,

All these insults just because I informed you of a fact about Apple... :)
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On 7/4/25 18:04, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-07-04 10:53:29 +0000, -hh said:

On 7/3/25 13:34, Marion wrote:

{snip!}
Look. Your entire argument is that of an emotional religious zealot, hh. >>> You are trying to say twenty dollar Androids fared worse than the
iPhone.

Where in "almost every Android" is there any price constraint?

You're goalpost dragging.  Again.


-hh

More like knuckle-dragging, as usual for that "Arlen" / "Marion" moron.

As well as many other shortcomings.

Case in point:

...and if I'm ever not logical and sensible in everything I say,
then you can shoot me.

But posts anonymously, without their name, address, photograph, etc to
make this so-called "offer" in any sense actually actionable.


-hh
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Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 22:02:10 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:

Apple MARKETING claims an amorphous "efficiency" in their ads which turns >>> out to be a lie but we all know that. The question in this thread is why. >>>
Why are iPhones so inefficient when compared to most major Android brands? >>>

I haven't seen the ad. What do they mean by 'efficiency'? Uses less power, >> or faster and easier to use? Something else?

Hi badgolferman,

I go away for a week and why am I not surprised that there are literally hundreds of posts on this tripe. You literally have nothing better to do.
How dull.

In this case, we have a years-in-the-making DEFINITION of EFFICIENCY
(which Apple has legally agreed to, years ago, published recently).

He asked you for a reference to the ad not a repetition of your never substantiated claims. Even shouting doesn't make them any less false. The opposite, in fact.

Which brings me to the question where we must find the correct answer to:
*Why is the iPhone so inefficient compared to Android?*

It isn't. I have a full analysis of the EU and other benchmarks in the
making.

There are some startling and clearly wrong information being shared by some manufacturers.

Stay tuned!



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