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The Samsung came with Android 11 and can be upgraded only to Android 13,
3 versions behind just-released v.16. This really kills Marion's 7 year
long support argument.
Tom Elam wrote:
The Samsung came with Android 11 and can be upgraded only to Android 13,
3 versions behind just-released v.16. This really kills Marion's 7 year
long support argument.
For over a decade...
Tom Elam wrote:
The Samsung came with Android 11 and can be upgraded only to Android 13,
3 versions behind just-released v.16. This really kills Marion's 7 year
long support argument.
For over a decade, these nutcase Apple religious zealots have been
distorting reality to make points that only exist in their own heads.
From: Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Marion's "free" Samsung Galaxy A32-5G
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:59:31 -0400
Message-ID: <10bm0g3$10038$3@dont-email.me>
See above idiocy from one of the uneducated Apple trolls, Tom Elam.
Notice he's completely unaware that a phone from 2021 isn't covered by today's written promises for full support of the Samsung Galaxy A series.
*Apple finally confirms in writing how long it will fully support iPhones*
*(it's 2 years less than Samsung Galaxy S & Google flagship support!)*
<https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/>
Who is *that* incredibly stupid?
Nobody right?
Yet, Apple trolls like Tom Elam *are* clearly that incredibly stupid.
They think that support is automatically retroactive way back to 2021!
But further proof that all Apple trolls are Apple trolls in part because every one of them fundamentally lacks higher education is also rampant.
Notice Tom Elam wrote "7 year long support argument"...
He's too stupid to get the details.
All the Apple trolls are too stupid to get the details.
Tom Elam (and Chris) doesn't know how to count with two hands even.
Not one of them could pass a freshman Calculus class, let alone Algebra.
Chris said something similar today, but in the other direction.
From: Marion <marionf@fact.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: This is (one reason) why I assess that Apple trolls
lack formal education
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 01:02:45 -0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <10bn7bk$1tta$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
There's a reason the past decade has been filled with this nonsense from
the ignorant Apple trolls, not only because they're religious nutcases.
Their own statements prove that the Apple trolls lack formal education.
They lack any capacity to understand simple plain basic facts.
For those who actually went to college, can you imagine any of them passing an organic chemistry test using their religious nutcase belief systems?
On 2025-10-02 18:19, Marion wrote:
Tom Elam wrote:
The Samsung came with Android 11 and can be upgraded only to Android 13, >>> 3 versions behind just-released v.16. This really kills Marion's 7 year
long support argument.
For over a decade...
...you've turned to ad hominem attacks rather than rebut factual
arguments on their merits?
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math[....]
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD,
and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored[....]
in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Do you use an Apple computer, Tom?
On 10/3/2025 6:48 PM, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD,
and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored[....]
in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Do you use an Apple computer, Tom?
Thanks for asking. This is probably more than you wanted to know. I do
have extensive experience with Apple products, but let's start at the beginning.
I used an IBM 360/65 in grad school (1969-72). Then IBM mainframes and
DEC mainframes at work. My employer from 1979 to 2003 was Windows-based
when the PC became a thing. They furnished desktops, then laptops, so
that is what I went with after a brief time using Tandy products at home.
I have owned 2 Apple Macs. A Bondi Blue iMac circa 1998-98. Major disappointment. Mac OS 9 was so far behind Windows at the time I found
it useless. And, it crashed a lot. Second was a MacBook Pro. It was purchased when the M1 version first came out. A very impressive laptop,
and I enjoyed using it even though I had to use Parallels to run some Windows-only apps.
Unfortunately 2 weeks after purchase it crashed (infinite boot-loop) and would not load the OS. I took it to the local Apple Store and after inspection they honored my request for a full refund, including the accessories purchased.
The motivation for the Mac was a project that involving using a stats package for a large regression model with over 100,000 observations that
my 3 year old Windows machine with a spinning hard drive was taking
30-45 minutes to run. The Mac with its SSD ran it in under 5 minutes as
I recall.
As a result of that short experience I can certainly appreciate the
modern MacBook, M series processors, and Mac OS advantages. Especially battery life!
So today it's iPad 9, iPhone 14 Pro and the Dell XPS 15 (32 gb ram, 1 tb SSD) laptop the replaced the MacBook Pro. They all get along just fine.
Most of my iOS apps are Microsoft or Google. I also use a cross-platform
3rd party password manager that really helps out.
The XPS 15 replaced the MacBook Pro. It did my stats work in about the
same time as the Mac. More so than processor, the lack of SSD technology
was also a major factor with the older HP.
We also own 2 older HP laptops that have been upgraded to Windows 11.
On 10/3/2025 6:48 PM, David B. wrote:Don't engage with this asshole, Asshole.
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD,
and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored[....]
in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Do you use an Apple computer, Tom?
Thanks for asking.
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD,
and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored[....]
in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
On 10/3/25 18:48, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD,
and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored[....]
in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Of course it sounds impressive, because this is the cherry-picked
version of their CV.
-hh
On 05/10/2025 19:08, -hh wrote:
On 10/3/25 18:48, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD,
and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored[....]
in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Of course it sounds impressive, because this is the cherry-picked
version of their CV.
-hh
Are you throwing doubt about the accuracy of Tom's credentials?
Anyone who has a PhD is worthy of respect, imo.
On 10/5/25 14:52, David B. wrote:
On 05/10/2025 19:08, -hh wrote:
On 10/3/25 18:48, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS,
PhD, and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023.[....]
Majored in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are >>>>> math challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Of course it sounds impressive, because this is the cherry-picked
version of their CV.
-hh
Are you throwing doubt about the accuracy of Tom's credentials?
No, I'm saying that he's not showing all of his cards.
Anyone who has a PhD is worthy of respect, imo.
It depends; an old buddy paid $20 for his.
-hh
On 05/10/2025 20:48, -hh wrote:
On 10/5/25 14:52, David B. wrote:
On 05/10/2025 19:08, -hh wrote:
On 10/3/25 18:48, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS,
PhD, and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023.[....]
Majored in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you
are math challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical
employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Of course it sounds impressive, because this is the cherry-picked
version of their CV.
-hh
Are you throwing doubt about the accuracy of Tom's credentials?
No, I'm saying that he's not showing all of his cards.
OK - he appears credible to me though.
Anyone who has a PhD is worthy of respect, imo.
It depends; an old buddy paid $20 for his.
-hh
I suggest you change company if your friends do such things!
On 10/5/25 18:01, David B. wrote:
On 05/10/2025 20:48, -hh wrote:
On 10/5/25 14:52, David B. wrote:
On 05/10/2025 19:08, -hh wrote:
On 10/3/25 18:48, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS,
PhD, and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023.[....]
Majored in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you >>>>>>> are math challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical
employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Of course it sounds impressive, because this is the cherry-picked
version of their CV.
-hh
Are you throwing doubt about the accuracy of Tom's credentials?
No, I'm saying that he's not showing all of his cards.
OK - he appears credible to me though.
One needs to maintain awareness of the "argumentum ad verecundiam"
logical fallacy.
Anyone who has a PhD is worthy of respect, imo.
It depends; an old buddy paid $20 for his.
-hh
I suggest you change company if your friends do such things!
Nah, its just an illustration of how PhD's aren't necessarily all from traditional and accredited institutions.-a The backstory here was that my buddy bought it as a joke, but it really was a PhD for $20 from a non- accredited biz.
The rest of the story was that the company was ordaining ministers ostensibly to promote freedom of non-organized religion, but it "coincidentally" included info on how to use reduce taxes through
religious exemptions.
On 04/10/2025 12:32, Tom Elam wrote:
On 10/3/2025 6:48 PM, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD,
and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023. Majored[....]
in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are math
challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Do you use an Apple computer, Tom?
Thanks for asking. This is probably more than you wanted to know. I do
have extensive experience with Apple products, but let's start at the
beginning.
I appreciate you explaining!
I used an IBM 360/65 in grad school (1969-72). Then IBM mainframes and
DEC mainframes at work. My employer from 1979 to 2003 was Windows-
based when the PC became a thing. They furnished desktops, then
laptops, so that is what I went with after a brief time using Tandy
products at home.
Understood.
I have owned 2 Apple Macs. A Bondi Blue iMac circa 1998-98. Major
disappointment. Mac OS 9 was so far behind Windows at the time I found
it useless. And, it crashed a lot. Second was a MacBook Pro. It was
purchased when the M1 version first came out. A very impressive
laptop, and I enjoyed using it even though I had to use Parallels to
run some Windows-only apps.
Unfortunately 2 weeks after purchase it crashed (infinite boot-loop)
and would not load the OS. I took it to the local Apple Store and
after inspection they honored my request for a full refund, including
the accessories purchased.
That all sounds rather sad. :-(
The motivation for the Mac was a project that involving using a stats
package for a large regression model with over 100,000 observations
that my 3 year old Windows machine with a spinning hard drive was
taking 30-45 minutes to run. The Mac with its SSD ran it in under 5
minutes as I recall.
As a result of that short experience I can certainly appreciate the
modern MacBook, M series processors, and Mac OS advantages. Especially
battery life!
Major changes!
So today it's iPad 9, iPhone 14 Pro and the Dell XPS 15 (32 gb ram, 1
tb SSD) laptop the replaced the MacBook Pro. They all get along just
fine. Most of my iOS apps are Microsoft or Google. I also use a cross-
platform 3rd party password manager that really helps out.
The XPS 15 replaced the MacBook Pro. It did my stats work in about the
same time as the Mac. More so than processor, the lack of SSD
technology was also a major factor with the older HP.
We also own 2 older HP laptops that have been upgraded to Windows 11.
It sounds as if you are well provided with modern technology! If you are anything like me, you are probably delighted by the outstanding quality
of photographs taken on your iPhone 14 Pro!
You'd no doubt enjoy looking at them too if you had a 27 inch iMac or a Studio display!
On 10/5/25 14:52, David B. wrote:
On 05/10/2025 19:08, -hh wrote:
On 10/3/25 18:48, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS,
PhD, and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023.[....]
Majored in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are >>>>> math challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Of course it sounds impressive, because this is the cherry-picked
version of their CV.
-hh
Are you throwing doubt about the accuracy of Tom's credentials?
No, I'm saying that he's not showing all of his cards.
Anyone who has a PhD is worthy of respect, imo.
It depends; an old buddy paid $20 for his.
-hh
On 10/4/2025 12:25 PM, David B. wrote:
On 04/10/2025 12:32, Tom Elam wrote:
On 10/3/2025 6:48 PM, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote: [....]> I went to college
for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS, PhD, and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to[....]
2023. Majored in economics, minors in math and statistics. I
know you are math challenged, so that is 51 years of highly
technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Do you use an Apple computer, Tom?
Thanks for asking. This is probably more than you wanted to
know. I do have extensive experience with Apple products, but
let's start at the beginning.
I appreciate you explaining!
I used an IBM 360/65 in grad school (1969-72). Then IBM
mainframes and DEC mainframes at work. My employer from 1979 to
2003 was Windows- based when the PC became a thing. They
furnished desktops, then laptops, so that is what I went with
after a brief time using Tandy products at home.
Understood.
I have owned 2 Apple Macs. A Bondi Blue iMac circa 1998-98.
Major disappointment. Mac OS 9 was so far behind Windows at the
time I found it useless. And, it crashed a lot. Second was a
MacBook Pro. It was purchased when the M1 version first came
out. A very impressive laptop, and I enjoyed using it even
though I had to use Parallels to run some Windows-only apps.
Unfortunately 2 weeks after purchase it crashed (infinite boot-
loop) and would not load the OS. I took it to the local Apple
Store and after inspection they honored my request for a full
refund, including the accessories purchased.
That all sounds rather sad. :-(
The motivation for the Mac was a project that involving using a
stats package for a large regression model with over 100,000
observations that my 3 year old Windows machine with a spinning
hard drive was taking 30-45 minutes to run. The Mac with its SSD
ran it in under 5 minutes as I recall.
As a result of that short experience I can certainly appreciate
the modern MacBook, M series processors, and Mac OS advantages.
Especially battery life!
Major changes!
So today it's iPad 9, iPhone 14 Pro and the Dell XPS 15 (32 gb
ram, 1 tb SSD) laptop the replaced the MacBook Pro. They all get
along just fine. Most of my iOS apps are Microsoft or Google. I
also use a cross- platform 3rd party password manager that
really helps out.
The XPS 15 replaced the MacBook Pro. It did my stats work in
about the same time as the Mac. More so than processor, the lack
of SSD technology was also a major factor with the older HP.
We also own 2 older HP laptops that have been upgraded to
Windows 11.
It sounds as if you are well provided with modern technology! If
you are anything like me, you are probably delighted by the
outstanding quality of photographs taken on your iPhone 14 Pro!
You'd no doubt enjoy looking at them too if you had a 27 inch iMac
or a Studio display!
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a
6 figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
On 10/4/2025 12:25 PM, David B. wrote:
On 04/10/2025 12:32, Tom Elam wrote:
On 10/3/2025 6:48 PM, David B. wrote:
On 03/10/2025 23:09, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]> I went to college for 8 years, earned 3 degrees, BS, MS,
PhD, and worked
continuously in my selected area of study from 1972 to 2023.[....]
Majored in economics, minors in math and statistics. I know you are >>>>> math challenged, so that is 51 years of highly technical employment.
I am well impressed! EfOe
Do you use an Apple computer, Tom?
Thanks for asking. This is probably more than you wanted to know. I
do have extensive experience with Apple products, but let's start at
the beginning.
I appreciate you explaining!
I used an IBM 360/65 in grad school (1969-72). Then IBM mainframes
and DEC mainframes at work. My employer from 1979 to 2003 was
Windows- based when the PC became a thing. They furnished desktops,
then laptops, so that is what I went with after a brief time using
Tandy products at home.
Understood.
I have owned 2 Apple Macs. A Bondi Blue iMac circa 1998-98. Major
disappointment. Mac OS 9 was so far behind Windows at the time I
found it useless. And, it crashed a lot. Second was a MacBook Pro. It
was purchased when the M1 version first came out. A very impressive
laptop, and I enjoyed using it even though I had to use Parallels to
run some Windows-only apps.
Unfortunately 2 weeks after purchase it crashed (infinite boot-loop)
and would not load the OS. I took it to the local Apple Store and
after inspection they honored my request for a full refund, including
the accessories purchased.
That all sounds rather sad. :-(
The motivation for the Mac was a project that involving using a stats
package for a large regression model with over 100,000 observations
that my 3 year old Windows machine with a spinning hard drive was
taking 30-45 minutes to run. The Mac with its SSD ran it in under 5
minutes as I recall.
As a result of that short experience I can certainly appreciate the
modern MacBook, M series processors, and Mac OS advantages.
Especially battery life!
Major changes!
So today it's iPad 9, iPhone 14 Pro and the Dell XPS 15 (32 gb ram, 1
tb SSD) laptop the replaced the MacBook Pro. They all get along just
fine. Most of my iOS apps are Microsoft or Google. I also use a
cross- platform 3rd party password manager that really helps out.
The XPS 15 replaced the MacBook Pro. It did my stats work in about
the same time as the Mac. More so than processor, the lack of SSD
technology was also a major factor with the older HP.
We also own 2 older HP laptops that have been upgraded to Windows 11.
It sounds as if you are well provided with modern technology! If you are
anything like me, you are probably delighted by the outstanding quality
of photographs taken on your iPhone 14 Pro!
You'd no doubt enjoy looking at them too if you had a 27 inch iMac or
a Studio display!
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a 6
figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
I love the 14 Pro. Today I went to the Apple Store to compare my 14 Pro camera to the new 17 Pro. I did not see enough difference to justify
buying the 17 Pro.
My desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160
HD. The Apple display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+?
This is NOT a dandelion! https://i.ibb.co/KjvXY9k8/IMG-0980.jpg
On 06/10/2025 22:07, Tom Elam wrote:
...
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a 6
figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+?
Probably most 27" 4K screens today will do a fine job; the Devil in the Details probably falls to other aspects of a third party display beyondMy desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160 HD. The Apple
display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
Apologies. I've no doubt your 27 inch screen is also great for viewing images.
On 10/7/25 04:31, David B. wrote:
On 06/10/2025 22:07, Tom Elam wrote:
...
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a 6
figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+?
That's what he'd like to believe, isn't it?
Of course, "six digits" could also have been #1,234.56
Plus even if it was $100K, over what period of time?-a It is far less impressive if it was for a project which spanned over 3-4 years.
Similarly, with what non-labor expenses:-a when it includes travel, such
as to inspect manufacturing sites, it can easily run $5K a pop or more
for international; just five such trips consumes 25% of a $100K budget.
And so on.-a Point is that when someone cherry-picks their bravado claims
to resist the temptation to fill in their missing gaps, since those gaps invariably exist to filled in by readers with assumptions, not facts.
Probably most 27" 4K screens today will do a fine job; the Devil in the Details probably falls to other aspects of a third party display beyondMy desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160 HD. The Apple
display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
Apologies. I've no doubt your 27 inch screen is also great for viewing
images.
jut the image, such as if Apple's keyboard controls work correctly for brightness & sound, if there's integrated speakers, camera, etc.
-hh
On 10/7/2025 11:12 AM, -hh wrote:
On 10/7/25 04:31, David B. wrote:
On 06/10/2025 22:07, Tom Elam wrote:
...
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a 6
figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+?
That's what he'd like to believe, isn't it?
Of course, "six digits" could also have been #1,234.56
Plus even if it was $100K, over what period of time?-a It is far less
impressive if it was for a project which spanned over 3-4 years.
Similarly, with what non-labor expenses:-a when it includes travel,
such as to inspect manufacturing sites, it can easily run $5K a pop or
more for international; just five such trips consumes 25% of a $100K
budget.
And so on.-a Point is that when someone cherry-picks their bravado
claims to resist the temptation to fill in their missing gaps, since
those gaps invariably exist to filled in by readers with assumptions,
not facts.
My desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160 HD. The Apple
display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
Apologies. I've no doubt your 27 inch screen is also great for
viewing images.
Probably most 27" 4K screens today will do a fine job; the Devil in
the Details probably falls to other aspects of a third party display
beyond jut the image, such as if Apple's keyboard controls work
correctly for brightness & sound, if there's integrated speakers,
camera, etc.
They were all over $100k. Yes, they all spanned several years, ...
... the
wheels of justice move slowly. There was very limited travel for these three, all short domestic trips. I do not have detailed P&L by project,
but the business earned a 92% gross margin over its lifetime.
That
includes-ainternational trips to Europe (1), Canada (1), Australia (1)
and Latin America (3). Yes, a few international travel expenses were
paid direct by the customer and are not included in the costs.
On 10/9/25 07:21, Tom Elam wrote:
On 10/7/2025 11:12 AM, -hh wrote:
On 10/7/25 04:31, David B. wrote:
On 06/10/2025 22:07, Tom Elam wrote:
...
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a
6 figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+?
That's what he'd like to believe, isn't it?
Of course, "six digits" could also have been #1,234.56
Plus even if it was $100K, over what period of time?-a It is far less
impressive if it was for a project which spanned over 3-4 years.
Similarly, with what non-labor expenses:-a when it includes travel,
such as to inspect manufacturing sites, it can easily run $5K a pop
or more for international; just five such trips consumes 25% of a
$100K budget.
And so on.-a Point is that when someone cherry-picks their bravado
claims to resist the temptation to fill in their missing gaps, since
those gaps invariably exist to filled in by readers with assumptions,
not facts.
My desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160 HD. The Apple >>>>> display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
Apologies. I've no doubt your 27 inch screen is also great for
viewing images.
Probably most 27" 4K screens today will do a fine job; the Devil in
the Details probably falls to other aspects of a third party display
beyond jut the image, such as if Apple's keyboard controls work
correctly for brightness & sound, if there's integrated speakers,
camera, etc.
They were all over $100k. Yes, they all spanned several years, ...
David, here's a good example of how there's more details beyond the
original cherrypicked brags.
FYI, Tommy invariably whines when I paramaterize from his claims, but to illustrate, his above statement is suggesting that the only times that
there were any consultant contract of $100K or more was when it was multi-year.
Thus, taking his "over $100K" claim as $120K and 3 years for "several" claim, then what appears to be likely typical is in the ballpark of:
$120K/3 = $40K/year gross...
...but note a couple of things.
... the wheels of justice move slowly. There was very limited travel
for these three, all short domestic trips. I do not have detailed P&L
by project, but the business earned a 92% gross margin over its lifetime.
Where "these three" appears to be stating that there's only been three
large projects:-a TE: "But two legal cases went over $100k. Another was about $80k."
...but didn't he just claimed that the multi-years were "all over
$100K"?-a Well, I guess in Tommy Math that $80K is more than $100K. /s
In any event, these numbers are his self-employed level gross before overhead expenses, such as Social Security & Medicare.-a For a self- employed, the business has to pay the same as employee, which is
7.65% ... and that's nearly all of his "92% gross margin" claim.-a Before the employee's SS/Med, above $40K SWAG drops to an employee gross of no
more than ~$37K/year just from this one gross-to-net adjustment. There's others possible too, such as employer contributions to a 401(k).
In any event, with the rest being smaller than apparently $80K over his "2002-2023" twenty two year working period, which at his present age of
79, covers working years from age 56 to age 77, and all together he humble-bragged "The total revenue was well over $1 million."
Since he would have bragged $2M had it exceeded $2M, this has bracketed
the total possible between $1M and $1.9999M.-a Taking off 8% for his employer overhead and dividing by 22 years, the lower & upper limits on
his claim are $41.8K to $83.6K ... and YMMV on if that is good or bad,
but with the context that national median for PhD holders is around $100K/yr, even the $83K for the $1.9999M best case doesn't seem like
he's been crushing it.
That includes-ainternational trips to Europe (1), Canada (1), Australia
(1) and Latin America (3). Yes, a few international travel expenses
were paid direct by the customer and are not included in the costs.
(8% - 7.65%) * $1M = $3500; for $2M = $7000.-a The claimed 8% total
overhead budget doesn't appear to have enough bananas to cover more than
one or two such trips, let alone five.
-hh
On 09/10/2025 20:23, -hh wrote:
On 10/9/25 07:21, Tom Elam wrote:
On 10/7/2025 11:12 AM, -hh wrote:
On 10/7/25 04:31, David B. wrote:
On 06/10/2025 22:07, Tom Elam wrote:
...
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was a >>>>>> 6 figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+?
That's what he'd like to believe, isn't it?
Of course, "six digits" could also have been #1,234.56
Plus even if it was $100K, over what period of time?-a It is far less >>>> impressive if it was for a project which spanned over 3-4 years.
Similarly, with what non-labor expenses:-a when it includes travel,
such as to inspect manufacturing sites, it can easily run $5K a pop
or more for international; just five such trips consumes 25% of a
$100K budget.
And so on.-a Point is that when someone cherry-picks their bravado
claims to resist the temptation to fill in their missing gaps, since
those gaps invariably exist to filled in by readers with
assumptions, not facts.
My desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160 HD. The
Apple display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
Apologies. I've no doubt your 27 inch screen is also great for
viewing images.
Probably most 27" 4K screens today will do a fine job; the Devil in
the Details probably falls to other aspects of a third party display
beyond jut the image, such as if Apple's keyboard controls work
correctly for brightness & sound, if there's integrated speakers,
camera, etc.
They were all over $100k. Yes, they all spanned several years, ...
David, here's a good example of how there's more details beyond the
original cherrypicked brags.
FYI, Tommy invariably whines when I paramaterize from his claims, but
to illustrate, his above statement is suggesting that the only times
that there were any consultant contract of $100K or more was when it
was multi-year.
Thus, taking his "over $100K" claim as $120K and 3 years for "several"
claim, then what appears to be likely typical is in the ballpark of:
$120K/3 = $40K/year gross...
...but note a couple of things.
... the wheels of justice move slowly. There was very limited travel
for these three, all short domestic trips. I do not have detailed P&L
by project, but the business earned a 92% gross margin over its
lifetime.
Where "these three" appears to be stating that there's only been three
large projects:-a TE: "But two legal cases went over $100k. Another was
about $80k."
...but didn't he just claimed that the multi-years were "all over
$100K"?-a Well, I guess in Tommy Math that $80K is more than $100K. /s
In any event, these numbers are his self-employed level gross before
overhead expenses, such as Social Security & Medicare.-a For a self-
employed, the business has to pay the same as employee, which is
7.65% ... and that's nearly all of his "92% gross margin" claim.
Before the employee's SS/Med, above $40K SWAG drops to an employee
gross of no more than ~$37K/year just from this one gross-to-net
adjustment. There's others possible too, such as employer
contributions to a 401(k).
In any event, with the rest being smaller than apparently $80K over
his "2002-2023" twenty two year working period, which at his present
age of 79, covers working years from age 56 to age 77, and all
together he humble-bragged "The total revenue was well over $1 million."
Since he would have bragged $2M had it exceeded $2M, this has
bracketed the total possible between $1M and $1.9999M.-a Taking off 8%
for his employer overhead and dividing by 22 years, the lower & upper
limits on his claim are $41.8K to $83.6K ... and YMMV on if that is
good or bad, but with the context that national median for PhD holders
is around $100K/yr, even the $83K for the $1.9999M best case doesn't
seem like he's been crushing it.
That includes-ainternational trips to Europe (1), Canada (1),
Australia (1) and Latin America (3). Yes, a few international travel
expenses were paid direct by the customer and are not included in the
costs.
(8% - 7.65%) * $1M = $3500; for $2M = $7000.-a The claimed 8% total
overhead budget doesn't appear to have enough bananas to cover more
than one or two such trips, let alone five.
-hh
You appear to be taking a pop at someone for whom you should have more respect.
Why is that?Amongst other things, wishing death on others who disagree with him.
On 10/9/25 17:20, David B. wrote:
On 09/10/2025 20:23, -hh wrote:
On 10/9/25 07:21, Tom Elam wrote:
On 10/7/2025 11:12 AM, -hh wrote:
On 10/7/25 04:31, David B. wrote:
On 06/10/2025 22:07, Tom Elam wrote:
...
Nothing sad about the need to update my Windows laptop, That was >>>>>>> a 6 figure project completed to the clients satisfaction.
Did you do work for someone and generate payment of $100,000+?
That's what he'd like to believe, isn't it?
Of course, "six digits" could also have been #1,234.56
Plus even if it was $100K, over what period of time?-a It is far
less impressive if it was for a project which spanned over 3-4 years. >>>>>
Similarly, with what non-labor expenses:-a when it includes travel, >>>>> such as to inspect manufacturing sites, it can easily run $5K a pop >>>>> or more for international; just five such trips consumes 25% of a
$100K budget.
And so on.-a Point is that when someone cherry-picks their bravado
claims to resist the temptation to fill in their missing gaps,
since those gaps invariably exist to filled in by readers with
assumptions, not facts.
My desktop display is a 3 year old Dell 27" 3840x2160 HD. The
Apple display no doubt looks better, but a 2-3x the price.
Apologies. I've no doubt your 27 inch screen is also great for
viewing images.
Probably most 27" 4K screens today will do a fine job; the Devil in >>>>> the Details probably falls to other aspects of a third party
display beyond jut the image, such as if Apple's keyboard controls
work correctly for brightness & sound, if there's integrated
speakers, camera, etc.
They were all over $100k. Yes, they all spanned several years, ...
David, here's a good example of how there's more details beyond the
original cherrypicked brags.
FYI, Tommy invariably whines when I paramaterize from his claims, but
to illustrate, his above statement is suggesting that the only times
that there were any consultant contract of $100K or more was when it
was multi-year.
Thus, taking his "over $100K" claim as $120K and 3 years for
"several" claim, then what appears to be likely typical is in the
ballpark of: $120K/3 = $40K/year gross...
...but note a couple of things.
... the wheels of justice move slowly. There was very limited travel
for these three, all short domestic trips. I do not have detailed
P&L by project, but the business earned a 92% gross margin over its
lifetime.
Where "these three" appears to be stating that there's only been
three large projects:-a TE: "But two legal cases went over $100k.
Another was about $80k."
...but didn't he just claimed that the multi-years were "all over
$100K"?-a Well, I guess in Tommy Math that $80K is more than $100K. /s
In any event, these numbers are his self-employed level gross before
overhead expenses, such as Social Security & Medicare.-a For a self-
employed, the business has to pay the same as employee, which is
7.65% ... and that's nearly all of his "92% gross margin" claim.
Before the employee's SS/Med, above $40K SWAG drops to an employee
gross of no more than ~$37K/year just from this one gross-to-net
adjustment. There's others possible too, such as employer
contributions to a 401(k).
In any event, with the rest being smaller than apparently $80K over
his "2002-2023" twenty two year working period, which at his present
age of 79, covers working years from age 56 to age 77, and all
together he humble-bragged "The total revenue was well over $1 million." >>>
Since he would have bragged $2M had it exceeded $2M, this has
bracketed the total possible between $1M and $1.9999M.-a Taking off 8%
for his employer overhead and dividing by 22 years, the lower & upper
limits on his claim are $41.8K to $83.6K ... and YMMV on if that is
good or bad, but with the context that national median for PhD
holders is around $100K/yr, even the $83K for the $1.9999M best case
doesn't seem like he's been crushing it.
That includes-ainternational trips to Europe (1), Canada (1),
Australia (1) and Latin America (3). Yes, a few international travel
expenses were paid direct by the customer and are not included in
the costs.
(8% - 7.65%) * $1M = $3500; for $2M = $7000.-a The claimed 8% total
overhead budget doesn't appear to have enough bananas to cover more
than one or two such trips, let alone five.
-hh
You appear to be taking a pop at someone for whom you should have more
respect.
Because whatever respect he once had has been squandered.
Why is that?Amongst other things, wishing death on others who disagree with him.
-hh
