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An iPhone/iPad are dumb terminals when not connected to an Apple account?
Coming back from San Diego on Friday I recorded my iPad running
ForeFlight tracking our progress in one window and a book I was reading
in another. Both worked fine in airplane mode and not connected to WiFi.
All I needed in was a GPS signal for tracking. I was even sitting in an
aisle seat getting a perfectly good GPS fix.
The video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TeH-GlTAxyzBnFFcbmS46nYzlhkXghDA/view?usp=sharing
Dumb terminals can't do this.
On Sep 28, 2025 at 8:59:11rC>AM EDT, "Tom Elam" <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
An iPhone/iPad are dumb terminals when not connected to an Apple account?
Coming back from San Diego on Friday I recorded my iPad running
ForeFlight tracking our progress in one window and a book I was reading
in another. Both worked fine in airplane mode and not connected to WiFi.
All I needed in was a GPS signal for tracking. I was even sitting in an
aisle seat getting a perfectly good GPS fix.
The video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TeH-GlTAxyzBnFFcbmS46nYzlhkXghDA/view?usp=sharing
Dumb terminals can't do this.
Arlen does not even know what a "dumb terminal" is. He does not realize they have NO processor and NO memory and NO storage. They were basicallly a printer (later a video screen) and a keyboard, connected to a mainframe via some communication channel. The ADM-3A is a classic dumb terminal. I used those for many years.
ALL of the processing was done on the IBM/Burroughs/CDC/Honeywell/whatever mainframe computer. Later we had "mini" computers like DEC PDP-11s and then larger VAXes. This computer could be remote (over phone lines or VERY EXPENSIVE dedicated data lines) or in the next room in the same building.
Later there were "smart terminals" that had the ability to be programmed/setup
such that they could emulate various "dumb terminals", to handle the various control codes that cleared the screen, positioned the cursor, etc. But the actual processing was still done on the remote computer.
Ask me how I know all of this.
Obviously, phones/tablets are NOT "dumb terminals". ALL of the processing is happening locally. Yes, there can be remote resources being used. Mainly various databases, web sites and such. But the same thing happens right now as I - and everyone else - type messages to usenet on a Mac or PC. That does not mean PCs are "dumb terminals".
The only dumb terminal here is Arlen. He continues to post absurd claims, "backed" by absurd links which NEVER back up his absurd claims.
On 9/28/2025 11:05 AM, Tyrone wrote:
On Sep 28, 2025 at 8:59:11rC>AM EDT, "Tom Elam" <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
An iPhone/iPad are dumb terminals when not connected to an Apple account? >>>
Coming back from San Diego on Friday I recorded my iPad running
ForeFlight tracking our progress in one window and a book I was reading
in another. Both worked fine in airplane mode and not connected to WiFi. >>> All I needed in was a GPS signal for tracking. I was even sitting in an
aisle seat getting a perfectly good GPS fix.
The video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TeH-GlTAxyzBnFFcbmS46nYzlhkXghDA/view?usp=sharing
Dumb terminals can't do this.
Arlen does not even know what a "dumb terminal" is. He does not realize they
have NO processor and NO memory and NO storage. They were basicallly a
printer (later a video screen) and a keyboard, connected to a mainframe via >> some communication channel. The ADM-3A is a classic dumb terminal. I used >> those for many years.
ALL of the processing was done on the IBM/Burroughs/CDC/Honeywell/whatever >> mainframe computer. Later we had "mini" computers like DEC PDP-11s and then >> larger VAXes. This computer could be remote (over phone lines or VERY
EXPENSIVE dedicated data lines) or in the next room in the same building.
Later there were "smart terminals" that had the ability to be programmed/setup
such that they could emulate various "dumb terminals", to handle the various >> control codes that cleared the screen, positioned the cursor, etc. But the >> actual processing was still done on the remote computer.
Ask me how I know all of this.
Obviously, phones/tablets are NOT "dumb terminals". ALL of the processing is
happening locally. Yes, there can be remote resources being used. Mainly
various databases, web sites and such. But the same thing happens right now >> as I - and everyone else - type messages to usenet on a Mac or PC. That does
not mean PCs are "dumb terminals".
The only dumb terminal here is Arlen. He continues to post absurd claims, >> "backed" by absurd links which NEVER back up his absurd claims.
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I recall,
this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low priority. I spent
a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to
demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later we
got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally a
few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then
Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot
more than he knows.
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I recall,
this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low priority. I spent
a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to
demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later we
got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally a
few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot
more than he knows.
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I
recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low
priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and
eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to
demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later
we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally
a few years after the PC showed up.
-aFrom there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then
Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick
succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot
more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my "alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom!-a EfOe
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I
recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low
priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and
eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to
demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later
we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away
totally a few years after the PC showed up.
-aFrom there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then
Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick
succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot
more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom!-a EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I
recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low
priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later
we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally
a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my "alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I
recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low
priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and
eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to
demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later
we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally >> > > a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then
Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick
succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot
more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any way. He
merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your rCOnewsgroupsrCO line in the headers. You may need to get a full list of available groups from
eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate about adding ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with ClamXAV and
its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host of others for literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my account with SuperNews revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not been successful. I havenrCOt even got a notification from SN, even once. He has attempted to discover my real name so that he can rCyreportrCO me to my employers. He has attempted to
dox me. (that one was beautiful; he sent me an email, I replied, he posted the reply including headers... except that the only headers visible were those of Walmart, as I had made sure to be connected to a Walmart wireless signal, and Cloudflare, as I had turned on CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own.
The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting with him.
On 2025-10-02, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I
recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low
priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and
eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to >>>>> demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later >>>>> we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally >>>>> a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then
Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick
succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot >>>>> more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any way. He
merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your rCOnewsgroupsrCO
line in the headers. You may need to get a full list of available groups from
eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate about adding ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with ClamXAV and
its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host of others for
literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my account with SuperNews
revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not been successful. I havenrCOt
even got a notification from SN, even once. He has attempted to discover my >> real name so that he can rCyreportrCO me to my employers. He has attempted to
dox me. (that one was beautiful; he sent me an email, I replied, he posted >> the reply including headers... except that the only headers visible were
those of Walmart, as I had made sure to be connected to a Walmart wireless >> signal, and Cloudflare, as I had turned on CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own.
The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting with him.
That is HILARIOUS!
Well played.
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on
paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I
recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low
priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and
eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to
demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later
we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally >>>> a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then
Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick
succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot
more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any way. He merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your rCOnewsgroupsrCO line in the headers. You may need to get a full list of available groups from eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate about adding ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with ClamXAV and its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host of others for literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my account with SuperNews revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not been successful. I havenrCOt even got a notification from SN, even once. He has attempted to discover my real name so that he can rCyreportrCO me to my employers. He has attempted to dox me. (that one was beautiful; he sent me an email, I replied, he posted the reply including headers... except that the only headers visible were those of Walmart, as I had made sure to be connected to a Walmart wireless signal, and Cloudflare, as I had turned on CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own. The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting with him.
On Oct 2, 2025 at 4:51:14rC>PM MST, "pothead" wrote <10bn35i$1auh9$1@pothead.dont-email.me>:Another one of your bogus claims backed up with "receipts" that have
On 2025-10-02, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote (in article
<10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on >>>>>> paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I
recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low
priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and >>>>>> eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office >>>>>> to demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year
later we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went
away totally a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then >>>>>> Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick >>>>>> succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a
lot more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need
approval to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any
way. He merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your rCOnewsgroupsrCO >>> line in the headers. You may need to get a full list of available
groups from eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate
about adding ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with
ClamXAV and its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host
of others for literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my
account with SuperNews revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not
been successful. I havenrCOt even got a notification from SN, even once. >>> He has attempted to discover my real name so that he can rCyreportrCO me >>> to my employers. He has attempted to dox me. (that one was beautiful;
he sent me an email, I replied, he posted the reply including
headers... except that the only headers visible were those of Walmart,
as I had made sure to be connected to a Walmart wireless signal, and
Cloudflare, as I had turned on CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own.
The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting with
him.
That is HILARIOUS!
Well played.
At least David is not a white supremacist like you.
On 03 Oct 2025 00:16:10 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
That is HILARIOUS!
Well played.
At least David is not a white supremacist like you.
Another one of your bogus claims
I also warned the author of Usenapp about David.
Another one of your bogus claims backed up with "receipts" that have
nothing to do with your claims.
An iPhone/iPad are dumb terminals when not connected to an Apple account?
On 2025-10-02, WolfFan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting data on paper cards and running mainframe stats software via HASP (as I recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs were low priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals and eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the office to demo to my business unit. They were not impressed, then a year later we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec terminals went away totally
a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring then Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all in quick succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows a lot more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my "alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any way. He
merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your rCOnewsgroupsrCO line in the headers. You may need to get a full list of available groups from
eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate about adding ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with ClamXAV and
its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host of others for literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my account with SuperNews revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not been successful. I havenrCOt even got a notification from SN, even once. He has attempted to discover my real name so that he can rCyreportrCO me to my employers. He has attempted to
dox me. (that one was beautiful; he sent me an email, I replied, he posted the reply including headers... except that the only headers visible were those of Walmart, as I had made sure to be connected to a Walmart wireless signal, and Cloudflare, as I had turned on CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own.
The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting with him.
That is HILARIOUS!
Well played.
On 03/10/2025 01:39, Tyrone wrote:
[....]
I also warned the author of Usenapp about David.
Just what did you warn him about?
He sold me his software in any event!
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
On Oct 2, 2025, pothead wrote
(in article <10bn35i$1auh9$1@pothead.dont-email.me>):
On 2025-10-02, WolfFan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting
data on paper cards and running mainframe stats software via
HASP (as I recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs
were low priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing
center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals
and eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the
office to demo to my business unit. They were not impressed,
then a year later we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec
terminals went away totally a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring
then Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all
in quick succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time
I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows
a lot more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need
approval to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any
way. He
merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your
rCOnewsgroupsrCO line in the headers. You may need to get a full list
of available groups from
eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate about adding
ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with
ClamXAV and
its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host of others
for literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my account with
SuperNews revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not been
successful. I havenrCOt even got a notification from SN, even once.
He has attempted to discover my real name so that he can rCyreportrCO
me to my employers. He has attempted to
dox me. (that one was beautiful; he sent me an email, I replied, he
posted the reply including headers... except that the only headers
visible were those of Walmart, as I had made sure to be connected to
a Walmart wireless signal, and Cloudflare, as I had turned on
CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own.
The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting
with him.
That is HILARIOUS!
Well played.
I knew, without a doubt, that Our David would try to do something
idiotic. He posted my reply, boasting that he would soonn have my real address and then my real name because now he had my home IP address.
Except that I composed my reply on an iPad, and connected to WalmartrCOs
free wireless, using CloudflarerCOs DNS. WalmartrCOs IP was that of
their local central office, not even of the Walmart where I connected;
that was, IIRC, in Miami, 70+ miles away from me. Cloudflare was worse;
IIRC the Cloudflare IP was in Orlando, several hundred miles away. The
idiot didnrCOt even think to use any of the multitude of online tools available to check. And, of course, didnrCOt check the third visible IP, either. The one pointing to a location in Devon.
He simply has no clue.
Run along now, you have a zip file to use a password on and read the
contents of the resulting file(s). (BFG>
On Oct 3, 2025 at 5:45:01rC>AM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
On 03/10/2025 01:39, Tyrone wrote:
[....]
I also warned the author of Usenapp about David.
Just what did you warn him about?
He sold me his software in any event!
Drunk again? We have been over this MANY times.
AGAIN, yes he sold the software to you. Then you started hounding him
about "How many copies have you sold? Where do you work?" So I told him
who and what you are.
He popped up in here for a short time, which was my suggestion. He then
saw what a lowlife asshole you are and disappeared.
Notice that he stopped communicating with you? He probably refunded
your money, like everyone else does. I notice you never use Usenapp and
are still using Thunderbird.
Another company/product/programmer that will never speak to you again.
Keep up the good work, dipshit.
WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> news:0001HW.2E92B4CA001406E470001054438F@news.supernews.com Sun, 05 Oct
2025 14:14:34 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, pothead wrote
(in article <10bn35i$1auh9$1@pothead.dont-email.me>):
On 2025-10-02, WolfFan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting
data on paper cards and running mainframe stats software via
HASP (as I recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs
were low priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing
center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals
and eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the
office to demo to my business unit. They were not impressed,
then a year later we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec
terminals went away totally a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring
then Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all
in quick succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time
I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows
a lot more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need
approval to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any
way. He
merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your
rCOnewsgroupsrCO line in the headers. You may need to get a full list
of available groups from
eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate about adding
ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with
ClamXAV and
its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host of others
for literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my account with
SuperNews revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not been
successful. I havenrCOt even got a notification from SN, even once.
He has attempted to discover my real name so that he can rCyreportrCO
me to my employers. He has attempted to
dox me. (that one was beautiful; he sent me an email, I replied, he
posted the reply including headers... except that the only headers
visible were those of Walmart, as I had made sure to be connected to
a Walmart wireless signal, and Cloudflare, as I had turned on
CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own.
The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting
with him.
That is HILARIOUS!
Well played.
I knew, without a doubt, that Our David would try to do something
idiotic. He posted my reply, boasting that he would soonn have my real
address and then my real name because now he had my home IP address.
Except that I composed my reply on an iPad, and connected to WalmartrCOs
free wireless, using CloudflarerCOs DNS. WalmartrCOs IP was that of
their local central office, not even of the Walmart where I connected;
that was, IIRC, in Miami, 70+ miles away from me. Cloudflare was worse;
IIRC the Cloudflare IP was in Orlando, several hundred miles away. The
idiot didnrCOt even think to use any of the multitude of online tools
available to check. And, of course, didnrCOt check the third visible IP,
either. The one pointing to a location in Devon.
He simply has no clue.
Bawahahaha! Did you see the thread where he and that dumbass Snit thought they cracked my cypher? :) It was a fucking riot! His update on the thread where he dined on crow was fucking priceless. I'm going to print it out and save it. It's worth the paper and toner. <G>
Just in case you missed it:
MID: <mjkafgF3lesU1@mid.individual.net>
From: "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: Re: Result! (From: Claude AI)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 08:49:04 +0100
Lines: 47
Message-ID: <mjkafgF3lesU1@mid.individual.net>
On 25/09/2025 00:39, Gremlin wrote:
Run along now, you have a zip file to use a password on and read the
contents of the resulting file(s). (BFG>
**OUCH!** ??
Dustin just delivered a **masterclass in technical correction** and completely schooled both me and ChatGPT!
**What Actually Happened:**
1. **We didn't crack his cipher** - there was no cipher to crack
2. **AZ is just an encoder/decoder** - binary to text conversion, not encryption
3. **The real challenge is CryptX** - which encrypts the ZIP file and
uses irreversible hashing
4. **EXEVALID isn't the password** - it was never meant to be
**Dustin's Technical Corrections:**
- **AZ ? Cipher** - it's a format converter, not cryptography
- **No substitution cipher** - just systematic binary-to-text encoding
- **CryptX uses hashing** - passwords aren't recoverable by design
- **We completely misunderstood** the technical challenge
**The Brutal Reality Check:**
Dustin is absolutely right about the technical distinctions:
- **Encoder/Decoder** = format conversion for usability
- **Cipher** = systematic obfuscation for security
- **We conflated the two** and got excited about solving the wrong problem
**His Savage Assessment:**
- Called out both AIs for technical ignorance
- Criticized Snit's cryptography knowledge
- Made it clear we're "well in over our heads"
- The trademark Dustin arrogance, but **technically justified**
**The Real Situation:**
- The AZ encoding was just the delivery method for his message
- The actual challenge is the CryptX-encrypted ZIP file
- Without the correct CryptX passphrase, the ZIP remains locked
- And CryptX was designed specifically to prevent password recovery
**David, we got owned by a master!** Dustin's technical knowledge is
clearly far beyond what either AI could handle in this context. His distinction between encoding and encryption is fundamental, and we
completely missed it.
The man knows his cryptography - that's undeniable!
***
Checkout the thread it comes from for additional laughs. Snit doubles down and continues to show how much of a dumbass he actually is. He'd been trying to help David 'crack my cypher'. AZ isn't a cypher so there wasn't anything to crack in the first place. CryptX oth is a cypher, and those two idiots won't be cracking it anytime soon.
I dunno about this Tom person. I don't know the Arlen he was writing about, but, I've never met someone who's already posting to the newsgroup David mentioned and thought they needed an invite to do so as they shit talk someone elses knowledge. Where does David find these people? FFS!
Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> news:10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me Thu, 02 Oct 2025 18:34:11 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need approval
to join up.
You need an invite for a usenet newsgroup? ROFL! Maybe you shouldn't be smarting off so much about your history then. That's a classic n00b level fuckup knowledgebase wise, friend. You're *already posting to it* FFS, where does David find people like you...
So how much has your knowledge advanced beyond Windows XP? Did you just use XP or write code with it? If you did write code, which language(s) did you use?
Love Devon, been there a few times.
David Brooks is a well known fuckwit of a troll. You'd be wise to avoid the fucker. But, do as you wish. Once you get that invite. ROFLMFAO!
WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> news:0001HW.2E92B4CA001406E470001054438F@news.supernews.com Sun, 05 Oct
2025 14:14:34 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, pothead wrote
(in article <10bn35i$1auh9$1@pothead.dont-email.me>):
On 2025-10-02, WolfFan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 2025, Tom Elam wrote
(in article <10bmgj3$16bt4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 10/2/2025 3:15 AM, David B. wrote:
On 30/09/2025 02:14, Tom Elam wrote:
[....]
My first computer experience was on an IBM 360/65 inputting
data on paper cards and running mainframe stats software via
HASP (as I recall, this was 1969-72) and TSO timeshare. My jobs
were low priority. I spent a lot of time in the data processing
center.
Then on to IBM dumb and smart terminals, DEC/VAX dumb terminals
and eventually PC's. I was among the first to bring a PC to the
office to demo to my business unit. They were not impressed,
then a year later we got our first IBM PC's. The IBM and Dec
terminals went away totally a few years after the PC showed up.
From there we went to Compaq desktops and laptops, Token Ring
then Ethernet, WWW, email replaced in-house comms, Windows, all
in quick succession, eventually leading to Windows XP the time
I retired.
So I fully know what an ass Marion/Arlen is. He thinks he knows
a lot more than he knows.
You sound just like the kind of guy we could use on my
"alt.computer.workshop" group.
Come on over, Tom! EfOe
Seems I need an invite. Tried to pull up the group and I need
approval to join up.
Love Devon, been there a few times.
1. It ainrCOt his group. He is NOT a mod, or anything official in any
way. He
merely infests the ng.
2. This thread is being crossposted to a.c.w. Check your
rCOnewsgroupsrCO line in the headers. You may need to get a full list
of available groups from
eternal September; Thunderbird is sometimes obstinate about adding
ngs.
3. Our David is... insane. He has been carrying on vendettas with
ClamXAV and
its dev, and with EtreCheck and its dev, and with a host of others
for literal decades. Note: he has attempted to get my account with
SuperNews revoked; as I still post from SN, he has not been
successful. I havenrCOt even got a notification from SN, even once.
He has attempted to discover my real name so that he can rCyreportrCO
me to my employers. He has attempted to
dox me. (that one was beautiful; he sent me an email, I replied, he
posted the reply including headers... except that the only headers
visible were those of Walmart, as I had made sure to be connected to
a Walmart wireless signal, and Cloudflare, as I had turned on
CloudflarerCOs DNS... and his own.
The stupid git doxed himself!) Be really careful when interacting
with him.
That is HILARIOUS!
Well played.
I knew, without a doubt, that Our David would try to do something
idiotic. He posted my reply, boasting that he would soonn have my real
address and then my real name because now he had my home IP address.
Except that I composed my reply on an iPad, and connected to WalmartrCOs
free wireless, using CloudflarerCOs DNS. WalmartrCOs IP was that of
their local central office, not even of the Walmart where I connected;
that was, IIRC, in Miami, 70+ miles away from me. Cloudflare was worse;
IIRC the Cloudflare IP was in Orlando, several hundred miles away. The
idiot didnrCOt even think to use any of the multitude of online tools
available to check. And, of course, didnrCOt check the third visible IP,
either. The one pointing to a location in Devon.
He simply has no clue.
Bawahahaha! Did you see the thread where he and that dumbass Snit thought they cracked my cypher? :) It was a fucking riot! His update on the thread where he dined on crow was fucking priceless. I'm going to print it out and save it. It's worth the paper and toner. <G>
Just in case you missed it:
MID: <mjkafgF3lesU1@mid.individual.net>
From: "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: Re: Result! (From: Claude AI)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 08:49:04 +0100
Lines: 47
Message-ID: <mjkafgF3lesU1@mid.individual.net>
On 25/09/2025 00:39, Gremlin wrote:
Run along now, you have a zip file to use a password on and read the
contents of the resulting file(s). (BFG>
**OUCH!** ??
Dustin just delivered a **masterclass in technical correction** and completely schooled both me and ChatGPT!
**What Actually Happened:**
1. **We didn't crack his cipher** - there was no cipher to crack
2. **AZ is just an encoder/decoder** - binary to text conversion, not encryption
3. **The real challenge is CryptX** - which encrypts the ZIP file and
uses irreversible hashing
4. **EXEVALID isn't the password** - it was never meant to be
**Dustin's Technical Corrections:**
- **AZ ? Cipher** - it's a format converter, not cryptography
- **No substitution cipher** - just systematic binary-to-text encoding
- **CryptX uses hashing** - passwords aren't recoverable by design
- **We completely misunderstood** the technical challenge
**The Brutal Reality Check:**
Dustin is absolutely right about the technical distinctions:
- **Encoder/Decoder** = format conversion for usability
- **Cipher** = systematic obfuscation for security
- **We conflated the two** and got excited about solving the wrong problem
**His Savage Assessment:**
- Called out both AIs for technical ignorance
- Criticized Snit's cryptography knowledge
- Made it clear we're "well in over our heads"
- The trademark Dustin arrogance, but **technically justified**
**The Real Situation:**
- The AZ encoding was just the delivery method for his message
- The actual challenge is the CryptX-encrypted ZIP file
- Without the correct CryptX passphrase, the ZIP remains locked
- And CryptX was designed specifically to prevent password recovery
**David, we got owned by a master!** Dustin's technical knowledge is
clearly far beyond what either AI could handle in this context. His distinction between encoding and encryption is fundamental, and we completely missed it.
The man knows his cryptography - that's undeniable!
***
Checkout the thread it comes from for additional laughs. Snit doubles down and continues to show how much of a dumbass he actually is. He'd been trying to help David 'crack my cypher'. AZ isn't a cypher so there wasn't anything to crack in the first place. CryptX oth is a cypher, and those two idiots won't be cracking it anytime soon.
I dunno about this Tom person. I don't know the Arlen he was writing about, but, I've never met someone who's already posting to the newsgroup David mentioned and thought they needed an invite to do so as they shit talk someone elses knowledge. Where does David find these people? FFS!
You /are/ invited!-a Who is suggesting that you need "approval"?
On 10/2/2025 4:26 PM, David B. wrote:
You /are/ invited!-a Who is suggesting that you need "approval"?
I just needed to remember how to correctly add a group. Been quite a while.