• Great ... AI Tools Now Let Anybody Sabotage Chips

    From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Oct 9 21:07:31 2025
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    https://techxplore.com/news/2025-10-ai-tools-hackers-hidden-flaws.html

    Widely available artificial intelligence systems can be
    used to deliberately insert hard-to-detect security
    vulnerabilities into the code that defines computer chips,
    according to new research from the NYU Tandon School of
    Engineering, a warning about the potential weaponization
    of AI in hardware design.

    In a study published by IEEE Security & Privacy, an NYU
    Tandon research team showed that large language models like
    ChatGPT could help both novices and experts create "hardware
    Trojans," malicious modifications hidden within chip designs
    that can leak sensitive information, disable systems or
    grant unauthorized access to attackers.

    To test whether AI could facilitate malicious hardware
    modifications, the researchers organized a competition over
    two years called the AI Hardware Attack Challenge as part
    of CSAW, an annual student-run cybersecurity event held by
    the NYU Center for Cybersecurity.

    . . .

    Just marvy ! And they even set up a 'classroom' to train
    people to do it better !

    Now getting into the corporate design database, or at
    the finished hardware code - Vlad's boyz seem to have
    NO problems with that sort of thing these days.

    So, Romanian 10-year-olds are going to be putting lots
    of 'leaker' stuff and worse into everyone's next-gen
    CPUs and support chips.

    Look, nobody wants to admit it yet, but the digital-biz
    model is kind of OVER already. If nothing is secure then
    you can't do biz or much anything else. It'll have to be
    back to couriers with pouches, cash transactions ...
    basically 1946 all over again.

    They will CLAIM to develop AI to find/fight the other
    AI tricks, but it will mostly be a lie. Attackers
    always have the advantage in these sorts of things.
    Only they know what/when/where/why and then pounce.
    Stealing may be part of it but mere large-scale
    'disruption' and records-scrambling and infrastructure
    messes and such are enough for political and cold-war
    type goals.

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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@BHam.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 10 06:52:02 2025
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    On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 21:07:31 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    Just marvy ! And they even set up a 'classroom' to train people to do
    it better !

    Now getting into the corporate design database, or at the finished
    hardware code - Vlad's boyz seem to have NO problems with that sort
    of thing these days.

    So, Romanian 10-year-olds are going to be putting lots of 'leaker'
    stuff and worse into everyone's next-gen CPUs and support chips.

    Look, nobody wants to admit it yet, but the digital-biz model is kind
    of OVER already. If nothing is secure then you can't do biz or much
    anything else. It'll have to be back to couriers with pouches, cash
    transactions ... basically 1946 all over again.

    They will CLAIM to develop AI to find/fight the other AI tricks, but
    it will mostly be a lie. Attackers always have the advantage in these
    sorts of things. Only they know what/when/where/why and then pounce.
    Stealing may be part of it but mere large-scale 'disruption' and
    records-scrambling and infrastructure messes and such are enough for
    political and cold-war type goals.

    Wow. The only way to prevent this is for everyone on Earth to never buy or
    use a computer, laptop, phone, etc... again, for as long as any of us
    live.

    Let them try to hack something then. That will teach the sorry bastards.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 10 03:31:42 2025
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    On 10/10/25 02:52, CtrlAltDel wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Oct 2025 21:07:31 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    Just marvy ! And they even set up a 'classroom' to train people to do
    it better !

    Now getting into the corporate design database, or at the finished
    hardware code - Vlad's boyz seem to have NO problems with that sort
    of thing these days.

    So, Romanian 10-year-olds are going to be putting lots of 'leaker'
    stuff and worse into everyone's next-gen CPUs and support chips.

    Look, nobody wants to admit it yet, but the digital-biz model is kind
    of OVER already. If nothing is secure then you can't do biz or much
    anything else. It'll have to be back to couriers with pouches, cash
    transactions ... basically 1946 all over again.

    They will CLAIM to develop AI to find/fight the other AI tricks, but
    it will mostly be a lie. Attackers always have the advantage in these
    sorts of things. Only they know what/when/where/why and then pounce.
    Stealing may be part of it but mere large-scale 'disruption' and
    records-scrambling and infrastructure messes and such are enough for
    political and cold-war type goals.

    Wow. The only way to prevent this is for everyone on Earth to never buy or use a computer, laptop, phone, etc... again, for as long as any of us
    live.

    Umm ... yea ... pretty much.

    Or at least never use them for biz/banking or
    infrastructure access.

    Sorry, but this is clearly where we're at.

    Let them try to hack something then. That will teach the sorry bastards.

    Yep.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 10 10:01:39 2025
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    On 10/10/2025 07:52, CtrlAltDel wrote:
    Wow. The only way to prevent this is for everyone on Earth to never buy or use a computer, laptop, phone, etc... again, for as long as any of us
    live.

    Thats the whole point about injecting chips into your bloodstream :-)

    Let them try to hack something then. That will teach the sorry bastards.

    The church has been hacking our minds for millennia.
    --
    Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that
    don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.


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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 11 02:11:58 2025
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    On 10/10/25 05:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 10/10/2025 07:52, CtrlAltDel wrote:
    Wow. The only way to prevent this is for everyone on Earth to never
    buy or
    use a computer, laptop, phone, etc... again, for as long as any of us
    live.

    Thats the whole point about injecting chips into your bloodstream :-)

    Let them try to hack something then.-a That will teach the sorry bastards.

    The church-a has been hacking our minds for millennia.

    Not the ONLY one now though ....

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