• Re: Gentoo Update Report - Eat Your Hearts Out

    From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 18:48:22 2025
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    Le 08-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :

    You would have to have used Linux Mint to understand what is being discussed.

    From your other messages, I'd say you know only Mint and don't
    understand the differences between the different distros.

    Mint transcends mere Linux and is sort of in a class of its
    own, unsurpassed in excellence.

    It's not enough to put cool words the ones behind the others to make a
    true meaningful sentence. Unlike you, I can argue on a technical point
    of view not on a poetry point of view about Linux.

    I very seriously doubt you have ever even tried Mint,

    He probably doesn't but there is no need to try it to have more
    knowledge than you about the different distros.

    so your opinion carries little weight.

    His opinion carries little weight, but not because he didn't try it,
    because he he knows nothing about Linux. In that, you are both at the
    same level to discuss Linux.

    The slogan of Linux Mint is "from freedom came elegance".

    Yes, you argue about slogans, not about a technical point of view
    because you can't. So, you can't understand the real subject, you can
    just put words on an impression. He has found you just well adapted to
    speak with him.

    And, frankly, there is no distro more elegant,

    Any distro can look exactly the same as Mint. You know nothing and you
    just proved it, if wasn't already obvious.

    more sleek, more modern, and more pleasing to use than Linux Mint Cinnamon edition.

    I could repeat the previous sentence with every word you put after
    "more" but it would be only a waste of time.

    kind of like an old Beetle Volkswagen, instead of just driving a Cadillac.

    Good, an analogy with cars, I'll be able to answer in the same way you
    can understand. You are the one who would compare two cars only looking
    at their pictures and decide the best one is the most beautiful one,
    oblivious to their technical characteristics. You opinion is just as
    useless as it's wrong.

    You will be very well together to speak nonsense about Linux.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 18:55:28 2025
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    Le 11-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 09:12:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    I don't want all of Linux in one basket.
    One of the main reasons I don't like Windows or Mac OS is that you have
    to take whatever it is they give you. I don't want that lack of choice
    for Linux.

    Choice is good. Lack of choice means someone controls you.

    I would never advocate for lack of choice,

    You just do it in each of your messages about Mint.

    only to make all the choices available to be Linux Mint.

    Which is another proof you don't understand the technical differences
    between distros. What you want would be at the same time a huge amount
    of work for the maintainers and a very difficult task to install it.


    With all concentration on Linux Mint alone, it could be further
    developed to please everyone.

    You can dream as long as you want, your sentence is just plain wrong.
    It's way more easier to have multiple distros with different purposes
    than one distro with every incompatible options available at the same
    time.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 19:10:25 2025
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    Le 09-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :

    Same here, just a regular user.

    Yes, your lack of knowledge is obvious.

    Much like you, I've tried numerous distros

    I don't believe that. I guess you did the install part of the easiest
    distros available and look at it a few second before moving to another
    one. Your messages show you are unable to install the distros who need
    you to know what you do to install them, so you can't have tried them.
    And I'm sure you never tried one long enough to understand the
    differences between the distros you tried.

    And I'll tell you a secret because I'm sure you are unaware of it:
    Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu BUDGIE, Ubuntu
    Kylin and Ubuntu Studio is only one distro. So if you tried them
    believing you tried a lot of distros, you are just confused.


    and none of them, zero, hold a candle to Mint in terms of ease of
    use, compatibility, possibilities of customization, a great combination of pre-installed software, and likely the best community support options available for Linux.

    That proves only your lack of knowledge, self explaining why you are
    wrong.

    I'm a computer user, not a Linux "enthusiast" who actively searches for
    the most difficult and convoluted ways to achieve a simple task to give myself a sense of achievement.

    Nobody does that, except FF/LP/DG/NV/whatever. You just despise whatever
    you can't do because of your mediocrity, not because of your merits.

    I think

    No, you don't. You would need a brain to be able to do that.

    hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be
    akin to early implementations of 86-DOS, MS-DOS, and later PC-DOS to give them a feeling of being different, being unique, and superior to those who like pretty things and buttons that can be clicked on.

    Once again, you despise what you can't do because of your mediocrity.
    Nobody want that, except FF/LP/DG/NV/FR/whatever.
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  • From Joel@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 15:36:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
    Le 11-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 09:12:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    I don't want all of Linux in one basket.
    One of the main reasons I don't like Windows or Mac OS is that you have
    to take whatever it is they give you. I don't want that lack of choice
    for Linux.

    Choice is good. Lack of choice means someone controls you.

    I would never advocate for lack of choice,

    You just do it in each of your messages about Mint.

    only to make all the choices available to be Linux Mint.

    Which is another proof you don't understand the technical differences
    between distros. What you want would be at the same time a huge amount
    of work for the maintainers and a very difficult task to install it.

    With all concentration on Linux Mint alone, it could be further
    developed to please everyone.

    You can dream as long as you want, your sentence is just plain wrong.
    It's way more easier to have multiple distros with different purposes
    than one distro with every incompatible options available at the same
    time.


    Mint is a great place to start, to learn the ropes of running Linux,
    it makes certain key things easier, but with room for exploration.
    That being said, I'm past the stage of needing such a friendly distro,
    Debian rivals Mint's robustness, and offers the Cinnamon DE natively,
    without being so Windows-like.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Amendment XIV
    Section 1.

    [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
    abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
    United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
    life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
    protection of the laws.

    Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
    liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 22:31:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 04 Jul 2025 18:48:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
    in <686821f6$0$24821$426a74cc@news.free.fr>:

    Le 08-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :

    You would have to have used Linux Mint to understand what is being
    discussed.

    From your other messages, I'd say you know only Mint and don't
    understand the differences between the different distros.

    Mint transcends mere Linux and is sort of in a class of its own,
    unsurpassed in excellence.

    It's not enough to put cool words the ones behind the others to make a
    true meaningful sentence. Unlike you, I can argue on a technical point
    of view not on a poetry point of view about Linux.

    I very seriously doubt you have ever even tried Mint,

    He probably doesn't but there is no need to try it to have more
    knowledge than you about the different distros.

    so your opinion carries little weight.

    His opinion carries little weight, but not because he didn't try it,
    because he he knows nothing about Linux. In that, you are both at the
    same level to discuss Linux.

    The slogan of Linux Mint is "from freedom came elegance".

    Yes, you argue about slogans, not about a technical point of view
    because you can't. So, you can't understand the real subject, you can
    just put words on an impression. He has found you just well adapted to
    speak with him.

    And, frankly, there is no distro more elegant,

    Any distro can look exactly the same as Mint. You know nothing and you
    just proved it, if wasn't already obvious.

    more sleek, more modern, and more pleasing to use than Linux Mint
    Cinnamon edition.

    I could repeat the previous sentence with every word you put after
    "more" but it would be only a waste of time.

    kind of like an old Beetle Volkswagen, instead of just driving a
    Cadillac.

    Good, an analogy with cars, I'll be able to answer in the same way you
    can understand. You are the one who would compare two cars only looking
    at their pictures and decide the best one is the most beautiful one, oblivious to their technical characteristics. You opinion is just as
    useless as it's wrong.

    You will be very well together to speak nonsense about Linux.

    You seem to have missed that Altie is a humorist.

    But he does have a point: Mint has all the strengths of Ubuntu, but
    with snaps disabled. It's a good place to be.
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.15.4 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 Mem: 258G
    "Tumbleweed: Colorado Tribble."
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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 22:39:51 2025
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    On Fri, 04 Jul 2025 15:36:10 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in <q4bg6kdqbqt9nrujhokqcoter7k5cnn4s0@4ax.com>:

    Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
    Le 11-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 09:12:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    I don't want all of Linux in one basket.
    One of the main reasons I don't like Windows or Mac OS is that you
    have to take whatever it is they give you. I don't want that lack of
    choice for Linux.

    Choice is good. Lack of choice means someone controls you.

    I would never advocate for lack of choice,

    You just do it in each of your messages about Mint.

    only to make all the choices available to be Linux Mint.

    Which is another proof you don't understand the technical differences >>between distros. What you want would be at the same time a huge amount
    of work for the maintainers and a very difficult task to install it.

    With all concentration on Linux Mint alone, it could be further
    developed to please everyone.

    You can dream as long as you want, your sentence is just plain wrong.
    It's way more easier to have multiple distros with different purposes
    than one distro with every incompatible options available at the same
    time.


    Mint is a great place to start, to learn the ropes of running Linux, it
    makes certain key things easier, but with room for exploration. That
    being said, I'm past the stage of needing such a friendly distro,
    Debian rivals Mint's robustness, and offers the Cinnamon DE natively,
    without being so Windows-like.

    I left Fedora for Mint after I learned just how deep Red Hat had
    their hooks in Fedora. They were actively pulling code out of
    openssl and releasing a crippled version, without ECC.

    I was also weary of the he-man Linux struggle, where one had
    to add the rpmfusion repo to make Fedora do basic things...like
    play mp3's.

    I want to do different things on my own, not worry about fiddling
    with the distribution itself -- so I stay with Mint, and send off
    a monthly donation to their Patreon. And I'm grateful that it
    has everything one needs to install and boot vanilla kernels after
    compiling them from kernel.org sources.

    $ uname -a
    Linux lm 6.15.4 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 4 11:00:47 PDT 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    $ tail -3 linux-6.15.4/nohup.out
    real 406.02
    user 19086.88
    sys 3700.97
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.15.4 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 Mem: 258G
    "If it was easy, the hardware people would take care of it."
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