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You knew it would happen.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

The MS team that reworked the UI has never done real work in a real
working environment.

Working with Windows 11 in the real world is more difficult and takes more movements / clicks.

Why is Microsoft so stupid sometimes?

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On 10/11/2025 3:57 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

You knew it would happen.

That you would make another stupid post? Yes, we all knew that.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

Huh? Microsoft wishes they had a smartphone OS. Windows 11 is
nowhere even close to a mobile OS. The software running on it could not
run on a phone. The work done using Windows 11 could not be done on a
tiny phone screen.

Have you ever actually used Windows?

BTW, nothing is going to happen in 3 days. This is the biggest hype
since Y2K. The world will be just fine. Businesses moved to Windows
11 years ago. Home users don't care or have moved on to phones/iPads/Macs/Linux/whatever.
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Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

You knew it would happen.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

The MS team that reworked the UI has never done real work in a real
working environment.

Working with Windows 11 in the real world is more difficult and takes more movements / clicks.

Why is Microsoft so stupid sometimes?

Interesting. I've just posted this elsewhere in response to another
Mac user gnashing his teeth over 'Doze:

----
[...]

[snip interesting tale of woe]

My word, I can see what you mean about 'Doze being obstructive.
Most annoying of all, it won't do anything at all useful unless I turn
off the Mac's VPN. Fortunately, I don't really need it for any online
work, it's only a plaything for me. I must say that I'm very glad
indeed that I only paid $10 for an official license.
----
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My Summer holiday pics: <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>
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On 10/11/25 3:57 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

You knew it would happen.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

The MS team that reworked the UI has never done real work in a real
working environment.

Working with Windows 11 in the real world is more difficult and takes more movements / clicks.

Why is Microsoft so stupid sometimes?

Really? I use it daily for the home finances, web, coding, and games. Gee, I have no
issues. I guess I don't do the same things other people do. Oh, I use a MS account.
--
Linux Mint 22.2, Thunderbird 128.14.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 143.0.4
Alan K.
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Service for windows 10 ends on October 14 so don't get started on
windows 11 spyware, get Linux Mint now. There are many Linux
distros but 'MINT' would be the best distro if you're a windows
user, Linux Mint is a very similar operating system. You won't
regret it and no more bloated windows spyware.

Linux Mint, Easy As Windows download: https://linuxmint.com/

Install PGP/GPA On Linux Mint & Kali Etc. Easy tutorial, windows
first, linux at 13:37...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEADq-B8KtI

Easy anonymous posting web interface...
https://mail2dizum.virebent.art:4443/

Best Privacy Focused Browser: https://brave.com/download/

Hostile Communication Center: http://e2mjj44t3eauxra2rmrlpn7vbd6whziypccfehlrlgnnvgr6xwp5lrad.onion/

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those "clicking" sounds could be a signal that eelbash agents are listening in . . .

(using Tor Browser 14.5.8) >https://duckduckgo.com/?>q=telephone+clicking+sounds+wire+tap+trap&ia=web&assist=true)

Clicking sounds during phone calls can indicate potential wiretapping or >>interference from surveillance devices. If you notice such noises, it may be wise>

recommend keep using omnimix with anonymous remailers, and keep your microsoft <windows systems up to date... and remember, every year is nineteen eighty-four <and every "smart" device is yet another means for big brother to keep watching >(it's probably all "a.i." these days, so just say nice things about automatons)

and more blah blah blah.

You need to see a doctor D!

Tell the doc you have had too much spam.

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On 10/11/2025 3:57 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

You knew it would happen.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

The MS team that reworked the UI has never done real work in a real
working environment.

Working with Windows 11 in the real world is more difficult and takes more movements / clicks.

Why is Microsoft so stupid sometimes?

Are you high, or something? Nothing's changed in Win11. What are you worrying about?
--
Joel W. Crump
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On 10/11/2025 4:33 PM, Sn!pe wrote:

My word, I can see what you mean about 'Doze being obstructive.
Most annoying of all, it won't do anything at all useful unless I turn
off the Mac's VPN. Fortunately, I don't really need it for any online
work, it's only a plaything for me. I must say that I'm very glad
indeed that I only paid $10 for an official license.

I'm guessing it's the less-traveled VM software not working with the
VPN. Parallels would likely work with the VPN and Win11. Just a hunch, though.
--
Joel W. Crump
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On 10/11/2025 4:51 PM, James Bond wrote:

Service for windows 10 ends on October 14 so don't get started on
windows 11 spyware, get Linux Mint now. There are many Linux
distros but 'MINT' would be the best distro if you're a windows
user, Linux Mint is a very similar operating system. You won't
regret it and no more bloated windows spyware.

Linux Mint, Easy As Windows download: https://linuxmint.com/

Not terrible advice, really, Mint is a great thing for first-time users
of Linux. Also great as a live session, to get a sense of Linux on a
device, I booted one on this thing and it was great. But I cling to
this MAK activation of Win11 Pro, that was so inexpensive with my new
mini PC from China, that serves me so well.
--
Joel W. Crump
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Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/11/2025 4:33 PM, Sn!pe wrote:

My word, I can see what you mean about 'Doze being obstructive.
Most annoying of all, it won't do anything at all useful unless I turn
off the Mac's VPN. Fortunately, I don't really need it for any online work, it's only a plaything for me. I must say that I'm very glad
indeed that I only paid $10 for an official license.

I'm guessing it's the less-traveled VM software not working with the
VPN. Parallels would likely work with the VPN and Win11. Just a hunch, though.

I suppose that's possible. I dropped Parallels several years ago as
being too expensive to renew for my usage case so I have no way
of testing that.
--
^-^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.

My Summer holiday pics: <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>
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On 10/11/2025 7:25 PM, Sn!pe wrote:

My word, I can see what you mean about 'Doze being obstructive.
Most annoying of all, it won't do anything at all useful unless I turn
off the Mac's VPN. Fortunately, I don't really need it for any online
work, it's only a plaything for me. I must say that I'm very glad
indeed that I only paid $10 for an official license.

I'm guessing it's the less-traveled VM software not working with the
VPN. Parallels would likely work with the VPN and Win11. Just a hunch,
though.

I suppose that's possible. I dropped Parallels several years ago as
being too expensive to renew for my usage case so I have no way
of testing that.

Understandable, your software is affordable and it works well enough for
you.
--
Joel W. Crump
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On 11 Oct 2025, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) posted some news:1rk26i3.xa7wmuob75vwN%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

You knew it would happen.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

The MS team that reworked the UI has never done real work in a real
working environment.

Working with Windows 11 in the real world is more difficult and takes
more movements / clicks.

Why is Microsoft so stupid sometimes?

Interesting. I've just posted this elsewhere in response to another
Mac user gnashing his teeth over 'Doze:

----
[...]

[snip interesting tale of woe]

My word, I can see what you mean about 'Doze being obstructive.
Most annoying of all, it won't do anything at all useful unless I turn
off the Mac's VPN. Fortunately, I don't really need it for any online
work, it's only a plaything for me. I must say that I'm very glad
indeed that I only paid $10 for an official license.
----

The UI is kind of annoying now. You get used to it after a while but it
just doesn't doesn't respond the same way it has historically, which
makes it inefficient IMO. Overall organization isn't bad, but it's
quirky.

My keyboard on my 2YO Dell laptop quit working after W11 upgrade. Can't
type anything after it boots so can't enter password to log in. The
only way the keyboard works now is to either tap some keys when the W11
circle is loading, or hit F12 and select the boot device, then it works
fine through reboots until it's powered off. BIOS is up to date, uses
the default PS2 keyboard driver. Shrug, it's Windows.
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Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

I'm guessing it's the less-traveled VM software not working with
the VPN. Parallels would likely work with the VPN and Win11.
Just a hunch, though.

I suppose that's possible. I dropped Parallels several years ago as
being too expensive to renew for my usage case so I have no way
of testing that.

Understandable, your software is affordable and it works well enough
for you.

macOS is free to upgrade, the original cost of the OS being part of the
price of the whole ecosystem; IOW the OS is bundled with the hardware.
Third party software is usually very reasonably priced if not shareware
or free.
--
^-^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.

My Summer holiday pics: <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>
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On Oct 11, 2025 at 5:22:44rC>PM MST, "Sn!pe" wrote <1rk2gsn.1hikw951myjklmN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>:

Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

I'm guessing it's the less-traveled VM software not working with
the VPN. Parallels would likely work with the VPN and Win11.
Just a hunch, though.

I suppose that's possible. I dropped Parallels several years ago as
being too expensive to renew for my usage case so I have no way
of testing that.

Understandable, your software is affordable and it works well enough
for you.

macOS is free to upgrade, the original cost of the OS being part of the
price of the whole ecosystem; IOW the OS is bundled with the hardware.
Third party software is usually very reasonably priced if not shareware
or free.

For me macOS is well worth it... which is NOT to say that others should not do as they wish. One HUGE benefit of desktop Linux is you can have it for free
(of course with paying for the hardware). But you the cost of entry is CERTAINLY a lot cheaper than macOS. Massively cheaper.
--
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On Sat, 10/11/2025 4:51 PM, James Bond wrote:

Service for windows 10 ends on October 14 so don't get started on
windows 11 spyware, get Linux Mint now. There are many Linux
distros but 'MINT' would be the best distro if you're a windows
user, Linux Mint is a very similar operating system. You won't
regret it and no more bloated windows spyware.

Linux Mint, Easy As Windows download: https://linuxmint.com/

Install PGP/GPA On Linux Mint & Kali Etc. Easy tutorial, windows
first, linux at 13:37...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEADq-B8KtI

Easy anonymous posting web interface...
https://mail2dizum.virebent.art:4443/

Best Privacy Focused Browser: https://brave.com/download/

Hostile Communication Center: http://e2mjj44t3eauxra2rmrlpn7vbd6whziypccfehlrlgnnvgr6xwp5lrad.onion/

This implies a level of skills the users don't have.

That's one of the reasons it can't be the Year Of
The Linux Desktop. If only you could get a Linux Mint USB Stick
into the candidates hands, it might work.

Even if you staged Linux Mint sticks at the public library,
just the number of days on average it would take the
users to return the stick, would limit the utility. The
wait at my Public Library, for the only Hollywood DVD
they've got ("The Godfather"), the wait list for the DVD
is two years. And this is a movie that came out when ?
And has been played on broadcast TV how many times ?
But it does serve as a cautionary tale, that even
the best laid plan, would be thwarted by rate limitations.
Every aspect of the Year Of The Linux Desktop, is rate limited.

This is how you get Linux on a Windows PC. "Wubi"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28software%29

"The project's aim was to enable existing Windows users, unacquainted with Linux,
to try Ubuntu without risking any data loss (due to disk formatting or
partitioning mistakes).[3] It could also safely uninstall Ubuntu
from within Windows.

It is not a Linux distribution of its own, but rather an installer for Ubuntu"

Paul



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On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:29:41 -0400, Paul wrote:

That's one of the reasons it can't be the Year Of The Linux Desktop.

Meanwhile, the definition of rCLDesktoprCY shrinks to exclude markets where Linux is inexorably taking over ...
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On Oct 11, 2025 at 11:10:05rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <10cfgnt$19c0g$2@dont-email.me>:

On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:29:41 -0400, Paul wrote:

That's one of the reasons it can't be the Year Of The Linux Desktop.

Meanwhile, the definition of rCLDesktoprCY shrinks to exclude markets where Linux is inexorably taking over ...

Do you mean Chrome OS? That has high usage -- though is not what people think of when they speak of Desktop Linux (GNU/Linux). But this is a strength of the Linux kernel -- it is used in many ways and many different systems.
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:29:41 -0400, Paul wrote:

Even if you staged Linux Mint sticks at the public library,
just the number of days on average it would take the
users to return the stick, would limit the utility.

The local library is holding a couple of seminars on installing and using Mint. It will be interesting to see the turnout.

"LINUX BASICS FOR REPLACING WINDOWS 10
Microsoft is ending support for Windows 10 in October, which means no more free security updates or technical assistance. If yourCOre looking for alternatives, join us for a free seminar: rCLLinux Basics for Replacing Windows 10rCY. Come discover the Linux Mint operating systemrCoan added benefit is that it runs easily on your existing PC, so no new hardware is needed. WerCOll cover the essentials and answer your questions. Whether yourCOre just curious or ready to switch, this seminar will help you get started with confidence."

Also, there is a plan to jump start the Linux users group that has been dormant for several years. Some of the people from the original group from 2008 are starting to come out of the woodwork.

A library might be able to get a better deal but you can buy 8 GB drives
in bulk from Amazon for $2 apiece.

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On 10/11/25 4:42 PM, anon wrote:

The UI is kind of annoying now.

M$ stole W11's UI from Chrome Book. I find
is rather obnoxious.

Just install Open Shell

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases
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On Sun, 10/12/2025 2:30 AM, rbowman wrote:

On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 22:29:41 -0400, Paul wrote:

Even if you staged Linux Mint sticks at the public library,
just the number of days on average it would take the
users to return the stick, would limit the utility.

The local library is holding a couple of seminars on installing and using Mint. It will be interesting to see the turnout.

"LINUX BASICS FOR REPLACING WINDOWS 10
Microsoft is ending support for Windows 10 in October, which means no more free security updates or technical assistance. If yourCOre looking for alternatives, join us for a free seminar: rCLLinux Basics for Replacing Windows 10rCY. Come discover the Linux Mint operating systemrCoan added benefit is that it runs easily on your existing PC, so no new hardware is needed. WerCOll cover the essentials and answer your questions. Whether yourCOre just curious or ready to switch, this seminar will help you get started with confidence."

Also, there is a plan to jump start the Linux users group that has been dormant for several years. Some of the people from the original group from 2008 are starting to come out of the woodwork.

A library might be able to get a better deal but you can buy 8 GB drives
in bulk from Amazon for $2 apiece.

Now, see ? That person is an example of someone who should
win the Nobel Peace Prize. A seminar at the library. Hmmm.
I'm trying to imagine what that would be like at our library.
My local library, I don't know if any of the rooms are big enough.

For an audience like that, if you had some scheme to acquire
USB sticks, the audience could run in Live mode and not bother
with the install step at first.

You want to be able to give instructions, that don't endanger
someones data.

Some machines are a challenge to get them booting off USB.
Others can be easier. My Dell Optiplex 780 refurb, just
about anything you do on there has pitfalls. But then, the
audience is unlikely to be running something that bad.

Paul

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On 12/10/2025 7:28 am, Nick Charles wrote:

On 10/11/2025 3:57 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

You knew it would happen.

That you would make another stupid post?-a-a Yes, we all knew that.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

Huh?-a-a Microsoft wishes they had a smartphone OS.-a-a Windows 11 is nowhere even close to a mobile OS.

Didn't MicroSoft produce a "smartphone" some time ago??

Oh!! Look! They're still out and about ....

https://www.phonerated.com/windows_smartphones-listbycat
--
Daniel70
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On 10/12/2025 7:06 AM, Daniel70 wrote:

On 12/10/2025 7:28 am, Nick Charles wrote:

On 10/11/2025 3:57 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

You knew it would happen.

That you would make another stupid post?-a-a Yes, we all knew that.

Windows 11 is a smartphone OS and makes working harder.

Huh?-a-a Microsoft wishes they had a smartphone OS.-a-a Windows 11 is
nowhere even close to a mobile OS.

Didn't MicroSoft produce a "smartphone" some time ago??

Yes, they HAD one. It was a spectacular failure. Then MS tried
Android. That was an even bigger failure.

Microsoft does not know shit about the mobile market.

Oh!! Look! They're still out and about ....

They suck even worse now than they did 10 years ago.
The point remains. Windows 11 is NOT a mobile OS. MS has no mobile
OS. And they wish they had one now.
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 09:31:59 -0400, Nick Charles wrote:

On 10/12/2025 7:06 AM, Daniel70 wrote:

Didn't MicroSoft produce a "smartphone" some time ago??

Yes, they HAD one. It was a spectacular failure. Then MS tried
Android. That was an even bigger failure.

If theyrCOd left Nokia alone, it might have succeeded. Remember, it was
after Microsoft man Stephen Elop took over at Nokia that it went all-in on Windows Phone, and started its descent into the verge of extinction.

Nokia was on the verge of giving up and embracing Android, when Microsoft acquired it, on the flimsy excuse of a highly dubious business case. The
real reason, of course, was as a (vastly expensive) corporate face-saving measure, to try to blunt the PR impact of such a high-profile defection to GooglerCOs platform.

One irony was that Nokia had one all-too-brief success during the whole
saga, with its N9. This was based on a Linux kernel, like Android, but was
I understand it was structured more akin to desktop Linux in its openness. Elop came on board to late to kill the N9 project, but was able to ensure
it was a one-off, with no follow-on successors.

So the phone was released, to very limited markets. It got rave reviews,
sold out, and that was the end of it.

Microsoft does not know shit about the mobile market.

Remember, they dominated it at one time, with rCLWindows MobilerCY products back in the era of the rCLPDArCY, or rCLPersonal Digital AssistantrCY. They even
killed off an innovative rival, Palm, just through sheer marketing power,
not by actual superiority of product.

Somehow things changed a decade or so later, and Android (with GooglerCOs help) was able to come in and completely upset the apple cart (so to
speak).

The point remains. Windows 11 is NOT a mobile OS. MS has no mobile
OS. And they wish they had one now.

They have tried to adapt Windows to many different uses outside the
desktop. None have succeeded -- thanks to Linux.

Even handheld gaming, running actual Windows games, is being dominated by Linux.
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 02:07:38 -0700, T wrote:

On 10/11/25 4:42 PM, anon wrote:

The UI is kind of annoying now.

M$ stole W11's UI from Chrome Book. I find
is rather obnoxious.

Just install Open Shell

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases

Only 642 open issues, going back about 7 years, as of this writing <https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/issues>.

IrCOm sure the code is fully reliable otherwise ...
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