• Linux-based automotive audio system

    From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Oct 9 09:02:22 2025
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    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go
    to a certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other
    open source components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one
    to use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read
    FLAC files. I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great
    with this system. (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for
    certain labels.)

    Also, when I've ripped CD's since forever, I've always stored them as
    FLAC. Good thing, because that's whats on the sound stick now:
    almost all FLAC files, with tags. (That's one thing they have
    over .wav files -- you can tag them. For example:

    $ metaflac --list 12-Charles.flac
    [...]
    METADATA block #3
    type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
    is last: true
    length: 209
    vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1 20070917
    comments: 7
    comment[0]: ALBUM=Beanfield
    comment[1]: ARTIST=Beanfield
    comment[2]: TITLE=Charles
    comment[3]: GENRE=Unclassifiable -> General Unclassifiable
    comment[4]: TRACKNUMBER=12
    comment[5]: XMCDDISCID=9e0ee90c
    comment[6]: ENCODER=xmcd-3.4.0
    )

    Another trick is using a directory of symlinks as a playlist.
    I tested this, and it works. (The utility of that isn't as
    nifty as one might think, because it also understands .m3u
    files.)

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could
    you imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same
    thing? They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    (One thing: if you use ext4 on a USB stick, you might want
    to turn off the journal. This is possible with tune2fs.)
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Oct 9 07:47:11 2025
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    vallor wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go
    to a certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other
    open source components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one
    to use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read
    FLAC files. I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great
    with this system. (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for
    certain labels.)

    <snip>

    Cool info, man!
    --
    Avoid contact with eyes.
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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Oct 9 14:25:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-10-09, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go
    to a certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other
    open source components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one
    to use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read
    FLAC files. I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great
    with this system. (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for
    certain labels.)

    Also, when I've ripped CD's since forever, I've always stored them as
    FLAC. Good thing, because that's whats on the sound stick now:
    almost all FLAC files, with tags. (That's one thing they have
    over .wav files -- you can tag them. For example:

    $ metaflac --list 12-Charles.flac
    [...]
    METADATA block #3
    type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
    is last: true
    length: 209
    vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1 20070917
    comments: 7
    comment[0]: ALBUM=Beanfield
    comment[1]: ARTIST=Beanfield
    comment[2]: TITLE=Charles
    comment[3]: GENRE=Unclassifiable -> General Unclassifiable
    comment[4]: TRACKNUMBER=12
    comment[5]: XMCDDISCID=9e0ee90c
    comment[6]: ENCODER=xmcd-3.4.0
    )

    Another trick is using a directory of symlinks as a playlist.
    I tested this, and it works. (The utility of that isn't as
    nifty as one might think, because it also understands .m3u
    files.)

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could
    you imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same
    thing? They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    (One thing: if you use ext4 on a USB stick, you might want
    to turn off the journal. This is possible with tune2fs.)

    That's pretty cool !
    I hope you're not entering commands while driving :)

    My Mustang uses QNX for it's Ford Sync4 OS. Previous versions of SYNC used Windows Embedded and
    it was a disaster.
    The next version, SYNC5 ? will run on Linux according to the rumor mill.
    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Oct 9 19:03:40 2025
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    On Thu, 09 Oct 2025 09:02:22 +0000, vallor wrote:


    (One thing: if you use ext4 on a USB stick, you might want
    to turn off the journal. This is possible with tune2fs.)


    The smart person will format his USB "sticks" with ext2 which
    has no journal.

    The performance difference, if any, will be negated by the
    inherently slow USB drive.

    But I suppose that distro lackeys are given no choice when
    they click their "Format USB Drive" buttons.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
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    Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux perfection.
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Oct 10 07:13:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Farley Flud<ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
    On Thu, 09 Oct 2025 09:02:22 +0000, vallor wrote:


    (One thing: if you use ext4 on a USB stick, you might want
    to turn off the journal. This is possible with tune2fs.)


    The smart person will format his USB "sticks" with ext2 which
    has no journal.

    The performance difference, if any, will be negated by the
    inherently slow USB drive.

    But I suppose that distro lackeys are given no choice when
    they click their "Format USB Drive" buttons.


    Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
    /dev/sdc1 2048 30283007 30280960 14.4G 83 Linux

    sdc USB disk:
    raspberrypi: ~ # mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdc1
    /dev/sdc1 on /mnt/sdc1 type reiserfs (rw,relatime)

    I was reading about Linus T. wanting to drop support for Reiser filesystem. OTOH I have gigabytes stuff on Reiserfs and never ever had a problem,
    unlike with ext2.

    Main system on this raspberr3y is now:

    The 4 TB Toshiba USB disk connected to this Raspberry Pi4 8 GB is now ext4
    /dev/sda2 on /mnt/sda2 type ext4 (rw,relatime)
    So far no problem with ext4.
    raspberrypi: ~ # df
    Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
    /dev/root 124334328 30913368 88322132 26% /
    devtmpfs 3879380 0 3879380 0% /dev
    tmpfs 4044244 21040 4023204 1% /dev/shm
    tmpfs 1617700 1336 1616364 1% /run
    tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock
    /dev/mmcblk0p1 258095 50413 207682 20% /boot
    tmpfs 808848 24 808824 1% /run/user/1000
    /dev/sda2 3844420600 3139007664 510052272 87% /mnt/sda2
    /dev/sdc1 15140012 12649824 2490188 84% /mnt/sdc1

    4 TB almost full, 87%, lots of backup stuff for example laptop and old versions of this system:
    raspberrypi: ~ # ls -rtl /mnt/sda2/backups/raspberry/
    ....
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Aug 31 2023 raspi_4_8GB_sdcard.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Sep 10 2023 raspi_4_8GB_sdcard_2.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Jan 11 2024 raspi_4_8Gb_sdcard-3.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Apr 21 2024 raspi_4_8Gb_sdcard-4.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Oct 7 2024 raspi_4_8Gb_sdcard-5.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Dec 16 2024 raspi_4_8Gb_sdcard-6.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Jun 30 13:26 raspi_4_8Gb_sdcard-7.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4014997504 Aug 5 12:57 raspi71_2.img
    ...


    I make backups when some important things changed or new things were added, Email archieve here with alpine and popemail goes back to the nineties.
    Very easy to use 'grep' in /root/mail/ (am always root)
    to find for example were I ordered something from
    or some conversation about some subject.

    raspberrypi: ~/mail # grep harddisk *
    ...
    sent-mail-jun-1999:Vooral de harddisk is geen UDMA (well voor meerprijs?) sent-mail-jun-1999:Dus met win 98 en echte harddisk kost hij dik over de 2500 ballen?
    ...
    Dutch conversation that was.
    Not bad for recall :-)






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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Oct 10 09:30:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 10/9/25 05:02, vallor wrote:
    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- ...

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could
    you imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same
    thing? They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    For embedded systems, Linux has been around for years & years.

    Well over a decade ago, I can recall being on a commercial flight going somewhere and the entertainment system was glitching (I forget the
    details) ... during a reboot or something, up popped the Linux penguin.


    Thus said, I suspect that the only reason why Subaru left a USB port
    open like you describe is because its a stand-alone infotainment system
    that's not integral to the safe operation of the vehicle.


    -hh
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Oct 10 14:30:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go
    to a certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other
    open source components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one
    to use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read
    FLAC files. I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great
    with this system. (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for
    certain labels.)

    Also, when I've ripped CD's since forever, I've always stored them as
    FLAC. Good thing, because that's whats on the sound stick now:
    almost all FLAC files, with tags. (That's one thing they have
    over .wav files -- you can tag them. For example:

    $ metaflac --list 12-Charles.flac
    [...]
    METADATA block #3
    type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
    is last: true
    length: 209
    vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1 20070917
    comments: 7
    comment[0]: ALBUM=Beanfield
    comment[1]: ARTIST=Beanfield
    comment[2]: TITLE=Charles
    comment[3]: GENRE=Unclassifiable -> General Unclassifiable
    comment[4]: TRACKNUMBER=12
    comment[5]: XMCDDISCID=9e0ee90c
    comment[6]: ENCODER=xmcd-3.4.0
    )

    Another trick is using a directory of symlinks as a playlist.
    I tested this, and it works. (The utility of that isn't as
    nifty as one might think, because it also understands .m3u
    files.)

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could
    you imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same
    thing? They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    (One thing: if you use ext4 on a USB stick, you might want
    to turn off the journal. This is possible with tune2fs.)
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From ALB@alb@lupinedb.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Oct 10 13:15:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go
    to a certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other
    open source components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one
    to use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read
    FLAC files. I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great
    with this system. (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for
    certain labels.)

    Also, when I've ripped CD's since forever, I've always stored them as
    FLAC. Good thing, because that's whats on the sound stick now:
    almost all FLAC files, with tags. (That's one thing they have
    over .wav files -- you can tag them. For example:

    $ metaflac --list 12-Charles.flac
    [...]
    METADATA block #3
    type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
    is last: true
    length: 209
    vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1 20070917
    comments: 7
    comment[0]: ALBUM=Beanfield
    comment[1]: ARTIST=Beanfield
    comment[2]: TITLE=Charles
    comment[3]: GENRE=Unclassifiable -> General Unclassifiable
    comment[4]: TRACKNUMBER=12
    comment[5]: XMCDDISCID=9e0ee90c
    comment[6]: ENCODER=xmcd-3.4.0
    )

    Another trick is using a directory of symlinks as a playlist.
    I tested this, and it works. (The utility of that isn't as
    nifty as one might think, because it also understands .m3u
    files.)

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could
    you imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same
    thing? They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Wrong again snit, at least for Windows.
    Aren't you supposed to have an advanced Information Technology degree? Considering how little you seem to know about computers in general I find
    that difficult to believe.

    Windows Embedded, now known as Windows IoT. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT>
    You sure are one ignorant fucker.
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  • From Pye R. Squared@noemailplease@aol.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Oct 10 21:07:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 13:15:36 -0400, ALB wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the Nav
    package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go to a
    certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other open source
    components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one to
    use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read FLAC files.
    I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great with this system.
    (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for certain labels.)

    Also, when I've ripped CD's since forever, I've always stored them as
    FLAC. Good thing, because that's whats on the sound stick now: almost
    all FLAC files, with tags. (That's one thing they have over .wav
    files -- you can tag them. For example:

    $ metaflac --list 12-Charles.flac [...]
    METADATA block #3
    type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
    is last: true length: 209 vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1
    20070917 comments: 7
    comment[0]: ALBUM=Beanfield comment[1]: ARTIST=Beanfield
    comment[2]: TITLE=Charles comment[3]: GENRE=Unclassifiable ->
    General Unclassifiable comment[4]: TRACKNUMBER=12 comment[5]:
    XMCDDISCID=9e0ee90c comment[6]: ENCODER=xmcd-3.4.0
    )

    Another trick is using a directory of symlinks as a playlist.
    I tested this, and it works. (The utility of that isn't as nifty as
    one might think, because it also understands .m3u files.)

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Wrong again snit, at least for Windows.
    Aren't you supposed to have an advanced Information Technology degree? Considering how little you seem to know about computers in general I
    find that difficult to believe.

    Windows Embedded, now known as Windows IoT. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT>
    You sure are one ignorant fucker.

    In case you haven't figured it out yet, snit is a pathological liar. He
    lies in order to boost his low self esteem and because he believes that he
    is superior to other people he has convinced himself that nobody will
    notice his profuse lying.
    Snit is a retard whose only purpose in life is to provide comical entertainment for the normal IQ people watching him. As you have found
    out, the best laughs are when snit gets roped into a tech discussion and proceeds to step on his own dick, assuming he has one.
    The most entertaining topics are Mac vs Windows vs Linux. Snit really
    shows how little he knows about computers and operating systems when he hijacks one of those threads.
    I'll wager that snit's comfort bear Bilby is also laughing at him.
    Right snitty?

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 00:51:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.
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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 02:51:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    "Pye R. Squared" <noemailplease@aol.org> news:68e97578$1$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Fri, 10 Oct 2025 21:07:04 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 13:15:36 -0400, ALB wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the Nav
    package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go to a
    certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other open source
    components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one to
    use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read FLAC files. >>>> I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great with this system.
    (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for certain labels.)

    Also, when I've ripped CD's since forever, I've always stored them as
    FLAC. Good thing, because that's whats on the sound stick now: almost >>>> all FLAC files, with tags. (That's one thing they have over .wav
    files -- you can tag them. For example:

    $ metaflac --list 12-Charles.flac [...]
    METADATA block #3
    type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
    is last: true length: 209 vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1
    20070917 comments: 7
    comment[0]: ALBUM=Beanfield comment[1]: ARTIST=Beanfield
    comment[2]: TITLE=Charles comment[3]: GENRE=Unclassifiable ->
    General Unclassifiable comment[4]: TRACKNUMBER=12 comment[5]:
    XMCDDISCID=9e0ee90c comment[6]: ENCODER=xmcd-3.4.0
    )

    Another trick is using a directory of symlinks as a playlist.
    I tested this, and it works. (The utility of that isn't as nifty as
    one might think, because it also understands .m3u files.)

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Wrong again snit, at least for Windows.
    Aren't you supposed to have an advanced Information Technology degree?
    Considering how little you seem to know about computers in general I
    find that difficult to believe.

    Windows Embedded, now known as Windows IoT.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT>
    You sure are one ignorant fucker.

    In case you haven't figured it out yet, snit is a pathological liar. He
    lies in order to boost his low self esteem and because he believes that he is superior to other people he has convinced himself that nobody will
    notice his profuse lying.
    Snit is a retard whose only purpose in life is to provide comical entertainment for the normal IQ people watching him. As you have found
    out, the best laughs are when snit gets roped into a tech discussion and proceeds to step on his own dick, assuming he has one.
    The most entertaining topics are Mac vs Windows vs Linux. Snit really
    shows how little he knows about computers and operating systems when he hijacks one of those threads.

    He couldn't even diagnose a failing spinner style HD on his own computer. :) If that's not incompetent I wouldn't know what is. He claimed it had been looked at previously and they told him there was an issue with the mainboard. WTF? They must have been just as technically incompetent as he's proven himself to be, OR, he lied his ass off about it being looked at already.
    It's most likely the latter going by his own history.

    Of course, he also confused a soldering iron for that of an engraving tool - even with the label still present on the engraver! And the tips of the irons
    - OMFG, the abuse! Poor tools. You can tell quite a bit about a person by looking at the care given to their tools. He must have 'skimmed' the proper usage and care for a soldering iron. Who the fuck doesn't know about tinning them? FFS!

    I'll wager that snit's comfort bear Bilby is also laughing at him.
    Right snitty?

    His cat isn't. Poor thing. I still don't know how he nearly pissed on it.
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 02:51:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> news:10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me Thu, 09 Oct 2025 09:02:22 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go
    to a certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other
    open source components of their software.

    There's a pizza chain which also uses Linux on almost all of the computers
    in the place. :) If you think 'pizza pizza' you know the place. The screens you see at various stations are self contained touch screen computers. HP mostly. Running Ubuntu with custom script(s) that run the POS and everything else related to it. I thought that was pretty damn cool. You don't see Linux running businesses like that everyday. Most of the time they're some variant of Windows.

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could
    you imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same
    thing? They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Well, technically... They could have used Windows <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT>

    Linux is fucking awesome though. :)

    (One thing: if you use ext4 on a USB stick, you might want
    to turn off the journal. This is possible with tune2fs.)

    I'm not sure it makes much of a difference performance wise? Reduces writes though, which extends the life of the stick. But, you shouldn't be using the stick for anything important that you don't have additional copies of anyway...
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 02:51:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    ALB <alb@lupinedb.org> news:svin9ufjw8ta.1k6ahdwi84v3a$.dlg@40tude.net Fri,
    10 Oct 2025 17:15:36 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the
    Nav package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go
    to a certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other
    open source components of their software.

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could
    you imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same
    thing? They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Wrong again snit, at least for Windows.
    Aren't you supposed to have an advanced Information Technology degree? Considering how little you seem to know about computers in general I find that difficult to believe.

    Windows Embedded, now known as Windows IoT. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT>
    You sure are one ignorant fucker.

    He has a masters in IT. I really think it either came from a papermill, or,
    he did the courses online and someone else (his grifting wife) did the
    actual work for him. The fucking moron couldn't even diagnose a failing spinner HD on his own machine. He also didn't seem to understand that dirty
    as fuck USB ports don't make good electrical contact and thus - won't
    properly work if they work at all!

    Prior to him sharing pics of the USB ports, I've never seen any so dirty.
    And, I've been repairing computers of all makes models for decades now. One
    of my first certs was for Novell if that tells you anything.

    You should have seen a picture he shared of his soldering irons! several soldering irons with practically destroyed soldering tips (he doesn't know what tinning is) and a fucking engraver. Yes, he actually mistook an engraver (with the label still present on it) for a soldering iron. I asked him to share a pic of what he had access to in the event any soldering to the mainboard was necessary - I was going by what he told me. He wrote that someone else had looked at the machine previously and determined there was
    an issue with the mainboard. Dafuq. It turned out having really nasty USB ports and a spinner style HD in the process of dying. I was the only one in the thread who diagnosed the HD as being the culprit, too. The machine was *not* dead as he claimed previously. All spinners when they start going have the same symptoms. Doesn't matter what the OS is, or, who made the damn computer. They all act the same. I think he lied about having someone look
    at it. If he actually did, they are just as incompetent as he is. Mainboard issue my ass. Those present different symptoms. And most of the time, it's a simple to diagnose and replace component - it's usually not an important IC responsible. A bad resistor, diode, transistor (usually a mosfet - but not always), or capacitor, is the culprit most of the time.

    A cold solder joint can also be responsible and is actually well known to be
    a problem with various makes and models - Especially with some Apple
    specific gear.

    Afaik, he hasn't put another HD in it - He doesn't know how to take it apart to do so. WTF?!? He's the definition of incompetent!

    He also likes to write a bunch of horse shit, claims he brings 'receipts' If you checkout the MIDs and read the entire post/threads they come from - you will find (as others already have) that he greatly misrepresents what he's claiming they support. I'm probably preaching to the choir here though. It seems like the majority of you are very familiar with Snit. Sorry. We didn't know him initially in alt.computer.workshop. A fucking trolling stalking
    idiot by the name of David Brooks introduced us to him. David can be such an ass.
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 02:51:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> news:10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:51:34 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    I suppose that depends on what versatile and adaptable mean to you...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT

    IMHO, Linux is the superior choice. :)
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 04:51:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 02:51:50 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:

    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> news:10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:51:34 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    I suppose that depends on what versatile and adaptable mean to you...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT

    IMHO, Linux is the superior choice. :)

    Windows IoT Edition is a joke. ItrCOs MicrosoftrCOs sad attempt to compete with Linux, while still strictly abiding by the iron principle of
    maximizing MicrosoftrCOs revenue, by ensuring that it cannot possibly cannibalize sales of any other version of Windows.

    As a result, it ends up being seriously crippled in functionality, and requires a separate full-fat Windows PC to do development on. Unlike
    Linux, which is fully capable of self-hosting its own development and deployment stack.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 05:16:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 5:51:34rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    Certainly not in the way Linux is. Sure.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 05:20:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 11 Oct 2025 05:16:26 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 5:51:34rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    Certainly not in the way Linux is. Sure.

    Are they rCLversatile and adaptablerCY in some other, non-Linuxy way?

    No, they are not.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 07:07:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 10:20:00rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <10ccpe0$i5cm$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 11 Oct 2025 05:16:26 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 5:51:34rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
    <10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    Certainly not in the way Linux is. Sure.

    Are they rCLversatile and adaptablerCY in some other, non-Linuxy way?

    No, they are not.

    Apple's software is built to run on pretty much everything it makes -- from Watches to desktops to tablets to phones. Apple focuses on devices and
    services that make money, and the tight integration across everything gives a more controlled, smooth experience. Linux, on the other hand, is free and open for anyone to use or modify. Companies can make money from it, sure, but there's no drive to lock you into an ecosystem. You can run Linux on almost anything, but it's less standardized than Apple's setup. None of this means
    one is "winning" or "losing" -- they're just different, built for different goals and different kinds of users.

    You seem invested in seeing one side "win". OK. You can see it that way. For
    me the whole "pissing contest" misses the point -- each has pros and cons, and the fact that different options exist, with different tradeoffs, is a benefit to us all.

    I tend to use macOS for my daily computing (that and iOS). I have nothing against desktop Linux and used to use it more (especially in schools I managed). I am dipping my toes back into it and happy with the growth I see -- but also see where it still has challenges. That's OK. Again: pros and cons. Does not mean you or others are wrong to use it. Nor me for using macOS or someone else for using Windows. Use what you like.

    I am a Linux advocate, but also a Windows and macOS advocate. I think anyone who is an informed user should know at least the basics of each... though also OK to not be an "informed" user and just have a tool that works fairly well
    for you.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 09:12:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 11 Oct 2025 07:07:56 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 10:20:00rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <10ccpe0$i5cm$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 11 Oct 2025 05:16:26 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 5:51:34rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
    <10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing? >>>>>> They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    Certainly not in the way Linux is. Sure.

    Are they rCLversatile and adaptablerCY in some other, non-Linuxy way?

    No, they are not.

    Apple's software is built to run on pretty much everything it makes --

    So is MicrosoftrCOs. So what? Neither of them is capable of competing with Linux.

    You implied further up that Linux is somehow oriented towards rCLembeddedrCY systems. Have you heard of an rCLembeddedrCY system that does containers and virtualization and has an advanced network stack? That can do SMP on up to 2048 CPU cores? No you havenrCOt.

    Linux has all those things.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 13:29:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Le 09-10-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a |-crit-a:
    On Thu, 09 Oct 2025 09:02:22 +0000, vallor wrote:


    (One thing: if you use ext4 on a USB stick, you might want
    to turn off the journal. This is possible with tune2fs.)


    The smart person

    How could you know what a smart person would do as you aren't one?

    will format his USB "sticks" with ext2 which
    has no journal.

    What for? I can see no reason to use ext2 today.

    The performance difference, if any, will be negated by the
    inherently slow USB drive.

    The performance difference of what compared to what?

    But I suppose

    That one is easy: you are wrong. I don't need to know more about the
    rest of your message to to know that.

    that distro lackeys are given no choice when
    they click their "Format USB Drive" buttons.

    To start with, you have to tell why it's better to use something not
    provided by default by a distro. Then you'll have to prove that
    something can't be done easily by a distro if it's not the default. By
    that time, you'll have proved either you don't know what you are
    speaking of or you don't know what you are criticizing.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps |a perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 15:33:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-10-11, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 02:51:50 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:

    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid>
    news:10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:51:34 GMT in
    comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing? >>>>> They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    I suppose that depends on what versatile and adaptable mean to you...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT

    IMHO, Linux is the superior choice. :)

    Windows IoT Edition is a joke. ItrCOs MicrosoftrCOs sad attempt to compete with Linux, while still strictly abiding by the iron principle of
    maximizing MicrosoftrCOs revenue, by ensuring that it cannot possibly cannibalize sales of any other version of Windows.

    True statement.
    The older Ford SYNC systems which used IoT were horribly buggy.
    I used to travel a lot back then and the rental cars had those systems
    in them and it was an awful experience.
    Fortunately at that time it was used only for entertainment and not
    controls and gauges and such.

    As a result, it ends up being seriously crippled in functionality, and requires a separate full-fat Windows PC to do development on. Unlike
    Linux, which is fully capable of self-hosting its own development and deployment stack.

    Yep.
    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 16:03:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 11 Oct 2025 13:29:51 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:


    What for? I can see no reason to use ext2 today.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    What an idiotic clown!

    Ext2 is managed by the kernel in the exact same way as
    ext3/4, except that it has no journal, and that characteristic
    can be critical to an external USB drive.

    Furthermore, any external drive should be mounted with the
    "noatime" option. This will greatly improve performance.


    Now get the fuck out of here and don't come back.

    You have no technical knowledge and can only pollute and distort
    the group with your idiotic messages.

    You are a TRIPLE IDIOT.
    --
    Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux perfection.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 12:38:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 10/11/2025 12:03 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On 11 Oct 2025 13:29:51 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:

    What for? I can see no reason to use ext2 today.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    What an idiotic clown!

    Ext2 is managed by the kernel in the exact same way as
    ext3/4, except that it has no journal, and that characteristic
    can be critical to an external USB drive.

    Furthermore, any external drive should be mounted with the
    "noatime" option. This will greatly improve performance.


    Now get the fuck out of here and don't come back.

    You have no technical knowledge and can only pollute and distort
    the group with your idiotic messages.

    You are a TRIPLE IDIOT.


    You need antipsychotic medicine.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Oct 11 17:51:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Oct 11, 2025 at 2:12:05rC>AM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <10cd714$lj7u$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 11 Oct 2025 07:07:56 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 10:20:00rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
    <10ccpe0$i5cm$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 11 Oct 2025 05:16:26 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 5:51:34rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
    <10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you >>>>>>> imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing? >>>>>>> They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    Certainly not in the way Linux is. Sure.

    Are they rCLversatile and adaptablerCY in some other, non-Linuxy way?

    No, they are not.

    Apple's software is built to run on pretty much everything it makes --

    So is MicrosoftrCOs. So what? Neither of them is capable of competing with Linux.

    When do you think they will be closing shop? Pick a date and we can check if you are correct.

    You implied further up that Linux is somehow oriented towards rCLembeddedrCY systems.

    It handles that well. Does not mean it does handle other things well. Not sure where you got that idea.

    Have you heard of an rCLembeddedrCY system that does containers and virtualization and has an advanced network stack? That can do SMP on up to 2048 CPU cores? No you havenrCOt.

    Linux has all those things.

    You are arguing against a straw man and pushing a pissing war I am not interested in.

    But if you really think MS and Apple have lost, pick a date when they will
    shut their doors, or at least take a huge dive in the market and have their stock prices crumble (and not recover). Would be curious to see if you are right.

    My guess: 10 years from now both will still be doing very well. As will Linux. There is room for all of them, and they all offer pros and cons. Personally I am happy they all exist and that I (and others) have more choice because they all exist. I like choice.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From ALB@alb@lupinedb.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop on Sat Oct 11 14:28:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 11 Oct 2025 17:51:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 11, 2025 at 2:12:05rC>AM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <10cd714$lj7u$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 11 Oct 2025 07:07:56 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 10:20:00rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
    <10ccpe0$i5cm$2@dont-email.me>:

    On 11 Oct 2025 05:16:26 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 10, 2025 at 5:51:34rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
    <10cc9mm$ei6n$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you >>>>>>>> imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing? >>>>>>>> They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Neither is designed to be a versatile, adaptable OS.

    Certainly not in the way Linux is. Sure.

    Are they rCLversatile and adaptablerCY in some other, non-Linuxy way?

    No, they are not.

    Apple's software is built to run on pretty much everything it makes --

    So is MicrosoftrCOs. So what? Neither of them is capable of competing with >> Linux.

    When do you think they will be closing shop? Pick a date and we can check if you are correct.

    You implied further up that Linux is somehow oriented towards rCLembeddedrCY >> systems.

    It handles that well. Does not mean it does handle other things well. Not sure
    where you got that idea.

    Have you heard of an rCLembeddedrCY system that does containers and
    virtualization and has an advanced network stack? That can do SMP on up to >> 2048 CPU cores? No you havenrCOt.

    Linux has all those things.

    You are arguing against a straw man and pushing a pissing war I am not interested in.

    But if you really think MS and Apple have lost, pick a date when they will shut their doors, or at least take a huge dive in the market and have their stock prices crumble (and not recover). Would be curious to see if you are right.

    My guess: 10 years from now both will still be doing very well. As will Linux.
    There is room for all of them, and they all offer pros and cons. Personally I am happy they all exist and that I (and others) have more choice because they all exist. I like choice.

    And as predicted, yet another thread infiltrated by the snit troll turns
    into a food fight.
    It's 100% impossible to carry on a dialog with snit.
    It's never been possible which is why it's never been done.
    Why?
    Glad you asked.
    Here is why.

    A word to the wise, you are best off ignoring Brock McNuggets because
    nothing good will ever develop from engaging in discussion with him.
    This ultra troll has been trolling for decades and whenever he begins
    posting in a group, any group, the end result is the same. Chaos and people arguing not only with him but with each other.
    This is just my advice having encountered this POS in the past.

    "6- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
    the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
    will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
    need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
    set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
    pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
    engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
    you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004

    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d3af33ce25a11fd
    "

    Here is a little, and I mean a little, about this troll.

    <https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
    <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
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    You have been warned.
    --
    ALB
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 10:22:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 10/10/2025 5:07 PM, Pye R. Squared wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 13:15:36 -0400, ALB wrote:

    On 10 Oct 2025 14:30:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Oct 9, 2025 at 2:02:22rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote
    <10c7tmu$2f442$4@dont-email.me>:

    So we traded in our old Subaru Ascent for a 2025 model, with the Nav
    package. And low and behold, it's Linux -- you can even go to a
    certain web site and download Linux, as well as the other open source
    components of their software.

    But what I found amazing about it is that it not only allows one to
    use ext4-formatted USB drives for audio, but it will read FLAC files.
    I have some 24-bit FLAC files, which sound great with this system.
    (You can get 24-bit FLAC at bandcamp.com for certain labels.)

    Also, when I've ripped CD's since forever, I've always stored them as
    FLAC. Good thing, because that's whats on the sound stick now: almost >>>> all FLAC files, with tags. (That's one thing they have over .wav
    files -- you can tag them. For example:

    $ metaflac --list 12-Charles.flac [...]
    METADATA block #3
    type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
    is last: true length: 209 vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.1
    20070917 comments: 7
    comment[0]: ALBUM=Beanfield comment[1]: ARTIST=Beanfield
    comment[2]: TITLE=Charles comment[3]: GENRE=Unclassifiable ->
    General Unclassifiable comment[4]: TRACKNUMBER=12 comment[5]:
    XMCDDISCID=9e0ee90c comment[6]: ENCODER=xmcd-3.4.0
    )

    Another trick is using a directory of symlinks as a playlist.
    I tested this, and it works. (The utility of that isn't as nifty as
    one might think, because it also understands .m3u files.)

    Just goes to show how ubiquitous and awesome Linux is. Could you
    imagine if they tried to use MacOS or Windows to do the same thing?
    They'd be sure to screw it up somehow.

    Neither is designed to be in an embedded system.

    Wrong again snit, at least for Windows.
    Aren't you supposed to have an advanced Information Technology degree?
    Considering how little you seem to know about computers in general I
    find that difficult to believe.

    Windows Embedded, now known as Windows IoT.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_IoT>
    You sure are one ignorant fucker.

    In case you haven't figured it out yet, snit is a pathological liar. He
    lies in order to boost his low self esteem and because he believes that he
    is superior to other people he has convinced himself that nobody will
    notice his profuse lying.
    Snit is a retard whose only purpose in life is to provide comical entertainment for the normal IQ people watching him. As you have found
    out, the best laughs are when snit gets roped into a tech discussion and proceeds to step on his own dick, assuming he has one.
    The most entertaining topics are Mac vs Windows vs Linux. Snit really
    shows how little he knows about computers and operating systems when he hijacks one of those threads.
    I'll wager that snit's comfort bear Bilby is also laughing at him.
    Right snitty?


    What is amazing about that? It's been that way since about 2016 when
    CarPlay and Android Auto launched. IIRC though the code was branded as
    an Android version, and and old one at that.
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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 14:32:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.
    --
    "Both PDF's came from you [Steve Mackey]." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)
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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 20:43:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
    news:5tkqekda21ijqurjiekql7iq3c1nmvuq5b@4ax.com Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:32:54
    GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.

    I'm well aware of the fact he doesn't have the knowledge he should have for such a thing, but, He actually does have one. It's either from a papermill, or, he did the course work online and his former wife was the one who
    actually did the work - because he doesn't and hasn't ever demonstrating as having the knowledge one should have for such a thing.

    Paper wise, though, he does have one. In his real name. There's no reason
    for me or anyone else to lie about such a thing...

    Have a good day!
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 20:50:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Oct 13, 2025 at 12:32:54rC>PM MST, "chrisv" wrote <5tkqekda21ijqurjiekql7iq3c1nmvuq5b@4ax.com>:

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.

    I do, though it is not relevant to Usenet. The only reason it is brought up or denied is the trolls are jealous. So what? Live your own life!
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From GefΣngnisVogel@"GefängnisVogel"@deutsch.sil to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 18:16:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 20:43:11 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> news:5tkqekda21ijqurjiekql7iq3c1nmvuq5b@4ax.com Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:32:54 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.

    I'm well aware of the fact he doesn't have the knowledge he should have for such a thing, but, He actually does have one. It's either from a papermill, or, he did the course work online and his former wife was the one who actually did the work - because he doesn't and hasn't ever demonstrating as having the knowledge one should have for such a thing.

    Paper wise, though, he does have one. In his real name. There's no reason for me or anyone else to lie about such a thing...

    Have a good day!
    Michael Glasser aka snit has an IT degree from Kaplan University which at
    the time was a known diploma mill and a degree from them was useless as employers knew all about the place.
    Learning was optional.
    Paying the tuition was all that mattered.

    POSSIBLE JOBS
    POSSIBLE EDUCATION
    SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
    POSSIBLE RELATIVES
    ASSOCIATES
    First Name Middle Name Last Name
    Michael Lee Glasser
    Birth Date Age Astrological Sign
    July 22, 1969 50 Cancer
    Mike Lee Glasser M Glasser
    Job Worked Dates
    Instructor at Yavapai College
    Trainer at Intuit Jan. 1, 1995 - Dec. 31, 2000
    Systems Administrator at Clark County Public Education Foundation Jan. 1,
    1993 - Dec. 31, 1995
    Lecturer at Yavapai College
    Adjunct Faculty at YAVAPAI COLLEGE LIBRARY (Libraries-Institutional)
    KAPLAN UNIVERSITY
    Attendance Dates: January 1, 2008 - December 31, 2011
    Qualification Type: Masters IT
    Subjects: Information Technology
    University: Kaplan University

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 23:55:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:32:54 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.


    Certainly he does -- Baiting.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Oct 14 00:17:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Oct 13, 2025 at 4:55:12rC>PM MST, "rbowman" wrote <ml5hqvFe19tU3@mid.individual.net>:

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:32:54 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.


    Certainly he does -- Baiting.

    I am speaking of Linux. Excited to dip my toes back in.

    I am very open that I mostly use macOS. Some will find that offensive. So be it. I also look at the good and bad of macOS, Linux, and Windows. I do not claim any is perfect and am happy all three exist. Some find that offensive, too. That, to me, is their problem. Not mine.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Oct 14 01:25:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
    [...]
    I am very open that I mostly use macOS.
    Some will find that offensive.
    [...]

    Offense is more taken than given.
    --
    ^-^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.

    My summer holiday pics: <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>
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  • From SiO2_Man@StockholmDetektiv@meatball.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 20:48:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    In article <68ed96a5$5$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...

    On Oct 13, 2025 at 4:55:12aPM MST, "rbowman" wrote <ml5hqvFe19tU3@mid.individual.net>:

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:32:54 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.


    Certainly he does -- Baiting.

    I am speaking of Linux. Excited to dip my toes back in.

    Of course you are snit.
    What better topic for you to start trolling.

    I am very open that I mostly use macOS. Some will find that offensive. So be it. I also look at the good and bad of macOS, Linux, and Windows. I do not claim any is perfect and am happy all three exist. Some find that offensive, too. That, to me, is their problem. Not mine.

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA1
    Stop the soft soap routine snit.
    The minute someone begins offering up the advantages of
    Linux over MacOS, you will spring into action by turning
    the thread into a gangabang.

    Hey, maybe you can drag out PEE again?
    Or maybe rotating an image, a teddy bear I believe, to
    some arbitrary angle.
    Yea, that's useful.

    Get lost snit.

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  • From onion@onion@anon.invalid (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mr_=D6n!on?=) to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Oct 14 01:55:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    SiO2_Man <StockholmDetektiv@meatball.com> wrote:

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA1

    Impressive.
    --
    \|/
    (((-))) - Mr +n!on

    When we shake the ketchup bottle
    At first none comes and then a lot'll.
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  • From SiO2_Man@StockholmDetektiv@meatball.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Oct 13 21:00:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    In article <1rk67z5.11hj4d1hkmh02N%onion@anon.invalid>,
    onion@anon.invalid says...

    SiO2_Man <StockholmDetektiv@meatball.com> wrote:

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA1

    Impressive.

    Thank you.
    It's encouraging to see that my work exposing this vile
    troll snit has not gone unnoticed.
    Best wishes for a fine day.


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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Oct 14 02:06:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Oct 13, 2025 at 5:25:02rC>PM MST, "Sn!pe" wrote <1rk66j2.12e90iz1y3xff6N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>:

    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
    [...]
    I am very open that I mostly use macOS.
    Some will find that offensive.
    [...]

    Offense is more taken than given.

    True.
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Oct 14 02:38:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    GefEngnis <"GefEngnisVogel"@deutsch.sil> news:1x5vlv2qnufyn$.1evi2poop5jmp$.dlg@40tude.net Mon, 13 Oct 2025
    22:16:51 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 20:43:11 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
    news:5tkqekda21ijqurjiekql7iq3c1nmvuq5b@4ax.com Mon, 13 Oct 2025
    19:32:54 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

    Gremlin wrote:

    He has a masters in IT.

    The "Snit" thing has no masters degree in anything.

    I'm well aware of the fact he doesn't have the knowledge he should have
    for such a thing, but, He actually does have one. It's either from a
    papermill, or, he did the course work online and his former wife was
    the one who actually did the work - because he doesn't and hasn't ever
    demonstrating as having the knowledge one should have for such a thing.

    Paper wise, though, he does have one. In his real name. There's no
    reason for me or anyone else to lie about such a thing...

    Have a good day!
    Michael Glasser aka snit has an IT degree from Kaplan University which
    at the time was a known diploma mill and a degree from them was useless
    as employers knew all about the place.

    I've long suspected as much.

    Learning was optional.
    Paying the tuition was all that mattered.

    No doubt the tax payers covered that.

    POSSIBLE JOBS
    POSSIBLE EDUCATION
    SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
    POSSIBLE RELATIVES
    ASSOCIATES
    First Name Middle Name Last Name
    Michael Lee Glasser
    Birth Date Age Astrological Sign
    July 22, 1969 50 Cancer
    Mike Lee Glasser M Glasser
    Job Worked Dates
    Instructor at Yavapai College
    Trainer at Intuit Jan. 1, 1995 - Dec. 31, 2000
    Systems Administrator at Clark County Public Education Foundation Jan.
    1, 1993 - Dec. 31, 1995
    Lecturer at Yavapai College
    Adjunct Faculty at YAVAPAI COLLEGE LIBRARY (Libraries-Institutional)
    KAPLAN UNIVERSITY
    Attendance Dates: January 1, 2008 - December 31, 2011
    Qualification Type: Masters IT
    Subjects: Information Technology
    University: Kaplan University

    It's even worse than I long suspected. FFS, I had over ten years at one! job. He hasn't made it past five in all of them?!?

    If you'd like to share whatever else you have; you can reach me at bughunter.dustin@gmail.com - I'll put it to good use. I promise. <G>
    --
    Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
    Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
    Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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