• Re: Fuck Wayland! Now We Got X11Libre!

    From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 21:39:31 2025
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    Le 10-06-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
    Fuck that goddamned Wayland distro hegemony.

    Now we got X11Libre:

    Good luck with that.

    Now we got a REAL project. Together we can make X great again.

    Together means more than one people. Or the guy on X11Libre is alone and
    as everyone here knows: you'll never help.

    If you have any talent other than jabbering on Usenet then please
    contribute to this wonderful project.

    Ah OK, like that you can keep on being useless and claim to be part of
    it.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 21:54:41 2025
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    Le 11-06-2025, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :

    Now, there is nothing wrong with systemd or Wayland per se but for these folks to unilaterally impose them on all GNU/Linux users is the outrage.

    You're still proud to claim garbage. The only reason systemd is almost mandatory is Gnome. And Poettering is no part of Gnome. The distro chose
    it because it's better, they don't want to impose it. They want
    something that work out of the box, which is easy to maintain, and
    systemd just do the job.

    For wayland, the X11 project was almost abandoned, so they needed an alternative and never imposed anything. For the same reason, the DE/WM
    dev prefer to use something better, maintained and improving. So they
    chose to switch on wayland. And as it's easier to maintain only a well improving project to abandonware everyone is switching to wayland. It
    doesn't mean anyone try to impose wayland. It means nobody want to
    maintain something based on an obsolete and deprecated product.

    So, you are free to take care of it, nobody will stop you. And you are
    free to use X11Libre if you want, seeing the way the only guy
    maintaining is working, it should be fun.

    I don't want systemd and I don't want Wayland.

    Nobody cares about what you want. Nobody want to maintain and improve
    sysvint, so you are free to do it. Only one guy want to maintain X11, so
    you are free to help.

    You can't? So why other should be forced to do what you refuse to do?
    You pay them? No. So don't blame guys willing to work on good things
    requesting them to do things you don't want to do.

    Right now it is possible to employ alternatives

    Good for you.

    but Poettering, RedHat, Freedesktop, and others want to eliminate all vestiges of choice.

    No, they don't. Do work about what you need and you'll see nobody'll try
    to stop you.
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 22:40:59 2025
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    On 04 Jul 2025 21:54:41 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    Nobody cares about what you want. Nobody want to maintain and improve sysvint, so you are free to do it. Only one guy want to maintain X11, so
    you are free to help.


    Speak for yourself, imbecile.

    Xlibre has over 512 contributors:

    <https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/graphs/contributors>

    This number will only grow over time as more and more users become
    sick and tired of that imposed Wayland bullshit.

    This is FOSS in action!

    But you are a crippled lackey. You cannot function without
    your distro-supplied Wayland and systemd.

    You are a helpless loser.

    You'd better get back to Micro$oft Winblows where you belong.
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 23:22:16 2025
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    On 04 Jul 2025 21:54:41 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    The only reason systemd is almost mandatory is Gnome.

    GNOME is a desktop GUI. systemd is a service manager, very popular on
    complex server setups which don’t need a GUI at all.

    For wayland, the X11 project was almost abandoned, so they needed an alternative and never imposed anything.

    No, they wanted to re-engineer the concept of a display server,
    jettisoning all the legacy baggage that was considered important back in
    the 1980s. Like a graphics API and the “visuals” concept. There was also a font server, but luckily that got left behind in the 1990s.
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  • From Joel@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 4 20:41:22 2025
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    Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

    You'd better get back to Micro$oft Winblows where you belong.


    You talk about using Windows.
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    Joel W. Crump

    Amendment XIV
    Section 1.

    [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
    abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
    United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
    life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
    protection of the laws.

    Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
    liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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