• Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice

    From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Sep 19 18:32:10 2025
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    The armed forces of Austria (which is not in NATO) will switch
    from Micro$lop Office to LibreOffice (LO):

    <https://www.heise.de/en/news/Austria-s-armed-forces-switch-to-LibreOffice-10660761.html>

    The reason is not to avoid cost but to keep everything "in house"
    rather than rely on remote servers that are controlled by a corrupt corporation.

    I suppose that it is a nice idea, but will it persist?

    LO is good, but its Calc pivot tables have an awkward and clumsy
    interface and it is pivot tables that are highly valued by
    spreadsheet users (even though a database approach would be used
    by a professional).

    LO does not have a database per se, but it allows interfacing
    to external databases. However, the LO database forms (i.e. GUI)
    interface is admittedly very clunky.

    I am not condemning LO but its roots are ancient, having been
    a clone of StarOffice way back in the 1990's. All attempts since
    then have essentially been a spackling over a crumbling edifice.

    LO is great for my needs, but I am not a giant organization.
    I really doubt that LO can fulfill the needs of the Austrian
    AF in the long term.

    What do you think?
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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Sep 19 20:05:38 2025
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    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:32:10 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    What do you think?

    Is Gentoo sucks the correct answer?

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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Sep 19 16:13:02 2025
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    Farley Flud wrote:

    LO is great for my needs, but I am not a giant organization.
    I really doubt that LO can fulfill the needs of the Austrian
    AF in the long term.

    What do you think?

    I think that the power users who need advanced features, like pivot
    tables, can buy the "high end" software. It's a sick market if
    everyone on the planet thinks that they need the one product because
    they must be compatible with everyone else.

    Word processors and spreadsheets are mature technologies. Their
    development was, mostly, paid-for decades ago. Thanks to FOSS, we
    need not go on paying for them forever.
    --
    "[There are] Linux fanboys who insist that Linux advocacy is never,
    ever, about being a cheapskate" - lying asshole "-hh", lying
    shamelessly
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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Sep 19 21:43:42 2025
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    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:13:02 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    Farley Flud wrote:

    LO is great for my needs, but I am not a giant organization.
    I really doubt that LO can fulfill the needs of the Austrian AF in the
    long term.

    What do you think?

    I think that the power users who need advanced features, like pivot
    tables, can buy the "high end" software. It's a sick market if everyone
    on the planet thinks that they need the one product because they must be compatible with everyone else.

    Word processors and spreadsheets are mature technologies. Their
    development was, mostly, paid-for decades ago. Thanks to FOSS, we need
    not go on paying for them forever.

    Australia's Air Force is a joke anyway; it isn't real. The 14,000 people
    who are in it are just cos-playing and trying to be funny and act silly to
    get attention and a paycheck.

    Their local kangaroo's get more air time just from jumping high than most
    of the Australian Air Force. Let's get real here. A kangaroo can jump
    almost 8 foot high from a complete standstill. That is amazing and much better than the Australian Air Force can achieve.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Sep 20 10:14:32 2025
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    Le 19-09-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a |-crit-a:
    The armed forces of Austria (which is not in NATO) will switch
    from Micro$lop Office to LibreOffice (LO):

    <https://www.heise.de/en/news/Austria-s-armed-forces-switch-to-LibreOffice-10660761.html>

    LO is great for my needs, but I am not a giant organization.
    I really doubt that LO can fulfill the needs of the Austrian
    AF in the long term.

    What do you think?

    I believe that Trump is the biggest promoter of FOSS ever. People are
    starting to realize that they can lose their accounts if they say that Netanyahou is a war criminal. The Cuba, Iran, North Korea and other
    countries' users have been locked from a long time ago, but now, thanks
    to Trump, they are starting to realize that this can happen to them too.
    I didn't see it reported yet, but I'm pretty sure someone will lose his
    account for saying bad things about Charlie Kirk.

    About the needs of giant organizations, LO is equivalent to MS Office.
    They are compatible in 99.99% of the cases and they can find something
    for the reminding of the cases.

    Of course, a database is well more powerful than calc, but giant
    organisations can either buy a product around the database or develop it
    to suit their needs.
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Sep 20 08:54:20 2025
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    CtrlAltDel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:13:02 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    Farley Flud wrote:

    LO is great for my needs, but I am not a giant organization.
    I really doubt that LO can fulfill the needs of the Austrian AF in the >>>long term.

    What do you think?

    I think that the power users who need advanced features, like pivot
    tables, can buy the "high end" software. It's a sick market if everyone
    on the planet thinks that they need the one product because they must be
    compatible with everyone else.

    Word processors and spreadsheets are mature technologies. Their
    development was, mostly, paid-for decades ago. Thanks to FOSS, we need
    not go on paying for them forever.

    Australia's Air Force is a joke anyway; it isn't real. The 14,000 people
    who are in it are just cos-playing and trying to be funny and act silly to get attention and a paycheck.

    Their local kangaroo's get more air time just from jumping high than most
    of the Australian Air Force. Let's get real here. A kangaroo can jump almost 8 foot high from a complete standstill. That is amazing and much better than the Australian Air Force can achieve.

    :-D

    The original post was about *Austria*.

    You should take up boxing with kangaroos :-)
    --
    In high school in Brooklyn
    I was the baseball manager,
    proud as I could be
    I chased baseballs,
    gathered thrown bats
    handed out the towels Eventually, I bought my own
    It was very important work but it was dark blue while
    for a small spastic kid, the official ones were green
    but I was a team member Nobody ever said anything
    When the team got to me about my blue jacket;
    their warm-up jackets the guys were my friends
    I didn't get one Yet it hurt me all year
    Only the regular team to wear that blue jacket
    got these jackets, and among all those green ones
    surely not a manager Even now, forty years after,
    I still recall that jacket
    and the memory goes on hurting.
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Sep 20 13:19:14 2025
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    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:13:02 -0500, chrisv wrote:


    It's a sick market if
    everyone on the planet thinks that they need the one product because
    they must be compatible with everyone else.


    The "market" is truly sick and even comatose.

    Micro$lop Office has been the *de facto* standard for business
    software for decades already. The pathetic users have been
    so strongly conditioned that they literally cannot adopt anything
    else.

    But, as I indicated, LO really is not up to par with M$ Office
    and thus could never serve as a complete replacement.

    Check out, for example, LO Basic which is the built-in scripting
    language. Compared to M$ VBA it is very cumbersome.

    LO is quite useful for small applications but it just cannot
    handle very large organizations.


    Word processors and spreadsheets are mature technologies. Their
    development was, mostly, paid-for decades ago. Thanks to FOSS, we
    need not go on paying for them forever.


    Very true. I don't ever need to program my own text processor
    when I can drop in a standard widget:

    https://tkdocs.com/tutorial/text.html

    But such common widgets are far beyond the capabilities of office
    workers who desperately need M$ Office.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Sep 20 18:20:03 2025
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    Le 19-09-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> a |-crit-a:
    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:32:10 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    What do you think?

    Is Gentoo sucks the correct answer?

    For once, he sent an interesting message. You could have acknowledge that.
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Sep 21 16:39:02 2025
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    On 9/20/25 08:54, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    CtrlAltDel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:13:02 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    Farley Flud wrote:

    LO is great for my needs, but I am not a giant organization.
    I really doubt that LO can fulfill the needs of the Austrian AF in the >>>> long term.

    What do you think?

    I think that the power users who need advanced features, like pivot
    tables, can buy the "high end" software. It's a sick market if everyone >>> on the planet thinks that they need the one product because they must be >>> compatible with everyone else.

    Word processors and spreadsheets are mature technologies. Their
    development was, mostly, paid-for decades ago. Thanks to FOSS, we need
    not go on paying for them forever.

    Australia's Air Force is a joke anyway; it isn't real. The 14,000 people
    who are in it are just cos-playing and trying to be funny and act silly to >> get attention and a paycheck.

    Their local kangaroo's get more air time just from jumping high than most
    of the Australian Air Force. Let's get real here. A kangaroo can jump
    almost 8 foot high from a complete standstill. That is amazing and much
    better than the Australian Air Force can achieve.

    :-D

    The original post was about *Austria*.

    Noticed the same thing. There's occasional news stories of people who
    get on the wrong flight .. and the alleged sign turns out to have been a marketing campaign:

    <https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-austria-australia-salzburg-airport-counter-337704614289>

    You should take up boxing with kangaroos :-)

    Whereas Salzburg's airport is small, but not bad at all;
    just no kangaroos (BTDT).


    -hh

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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Sep 21 21:25:17 2025
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    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 16:39:02 -0400, -hh wrote:


    Noticed the same thing.


    Ha, ha! I am totally amazed that you did not chime in to this
    thread with yet another TCO pseudo-analysis.

    Perhaps the Austrian AF told you to "pound sand" after you
    offered them your expert bean-counting services.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Now get back to your M$ laptop. For you, it's a marriage
    made in heaven.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
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    Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux perfection.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJjaW4gSmF3b3Jza2nwn4e18J+HsQ==?=@jaworski1978@adres.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Sep 21 23:31:27 2025
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    W dniu 19.09.2025 o-a20:32, Farley Flud pisze:
    LO does not have a database per se, but it allows interfacing
    to external databases. However, the LO database forms (i.e. GUI)
    interface is admittedly very clunky.

    This is very good idea, but tell me: Why they prohibit to use SQLite?!?

    I am not condemning LO but its roots are ancient, having been
    a clone of StarOffice way back in the 1990's. All attempts since
    then have essentially been a spackling over a crumbling edifice.

    There are even more questions:
    Why LO main GUI widgets are not accessible via shared libs.?
    Why LO scripting libs. are not fully documented (even in eng.)?!?

    That flaws mean one thing: This is next free or open malicious project.
    Who do such mean thing?!? The answer is on the main donor list (which is
    keep in secret and hide deep in safe). Remember: "Who pay, he demand."
    and: "Who pay, he decide."

    LO is next secret police project. If it will be real free it will be applicable an versatile and modern much more than any commercial product.

    LO is great for my needs, but I am not a giant organization.
    I really doubt that LO can fulfill the needs of the Austrian
    AF in the long term.

    What do you think?

    That is true: Apparently they have many dumb full time jobs, which
    require only edit some silly *.xdoc files. And they think that fully
    featured Micro$lop Office is not needed. I think they do not want
    entirely drop Micro$lop Office, instead they just optimize they IT budget.
    --
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    tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55; <jaworski1978@adres.pl>, gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Sep 21 18:08:06 2025
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    On 9/21/2025 5:25 PM, Farley Flud wrote:

    Now get back to your M$ laptop. For you, it's a marriage
    made in heaven.


    You're still a cheap fuck, not supporting FOSS with your money,
    voluntary payments are a good thing dumbass. There's nothing really
    wrong with commercial software either, I just don't always prefer it, I
    like LO for what it is, not just because it's FOSS, but it's good that
    it is.
    --
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Sep 21 22:14:34 2025
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    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:31:27 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    W dniu 19.09.2025 o-a20:32, Farley Flud pisze:
    LO does not have a database per se, but it allows interfacing
    to external databases. However, the LO database forms (i.e. GUI)
    interface is admittedly very clunky.

    This is very good idea, but tell me: Why they prohibit to use SQLite?!?


    LO can connect via ODBC to any database that provides an ODBC
    driver.

    SQLite provides a very old ODBC driver:

    http://ch-werner.de/sqliteodbc/

    You may want to try it and see if it works.



    There are even more questions:
    Why LO main GUI widgets are not accessible via shared libs.?
    Why LO scripting libs. are not fully documented (even in eng.)?!?


    I don't know. You will have to contact the LO mailing list
    to find an answer.



    That flaws mean one thing: This is next free or open malicious project.
    Who do such mean thing?!? The answer is on the main donor list (which is keep in secret and hide deep in safe). Remember: "Who pay, he demand."
    and: "Who pay, he decide."


    It's open source, which means that the source is open for anyone to view
    and analyze. I doubt if a "back door" could be introduced without
    someone noticing.

    But then the complexity of the LO code base could perhaps easily hide
    some kind of malware.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Sep 21 22:50:12 2025
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    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:31:27 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    Why they prohibit to use SQLite?!?

    LibreOffice Base works fine with SQLite, as it does with MySQL (to mention those IrCOve tried).

    It also has its own built-in DBMS back-end, if you donrCOt want to use an external one.

    Why LO scripting libs. are not fully documented (even in eng.)?!?

    <https://api.libreoffice.org/> not enough for you?
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJjaW4gSmF3b3Jza2nwn4e18J+HsQ==?=@jaworski1978@adres.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Sep 22 05:14:20 2025
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    W dniu 22.09.2025 o 00:50, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro pisze:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:31:27 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    Why they prohibit to use SQLite?!?

    LibreOffice Base works fine with SQLite, as it does with MySQL (to
    mention
    those IrCOve tried).

    It also has its own built-in DBMS back-end, if you donrCOt want to use an external one.

    I must reinstall my LO due to 'government/ethic crackers' which block LO
    Base in my Kubuntu. But after that I do 2 screenshots:

    <https://energokod.pl/inne/new-db-in-LO.png> <https://energokod.pl/inne/open-db-in-LO.png>

    None of these lists contain SQLite. This is what I mean in my question
    you quote.

    My LO version is: 6.4.7.2
    Compilation ID: 1:6.4.7-0ubuntu0.20.04.15

    W dniu 22.09.2025 o 00:50, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro pisze:
    <https://api.libreoffice.org/> not enough for you

    Few weeks ago I search for something like this:

    <https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/sbasic/python/main0000.html?DbPAR=BASIC>

    and I failed. Now I found it without any problems. It seems my bad,
    sorry for that.
    --
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    tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55; <jaworski1978@adres.pl>, gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJjaW4gSmF3b3Jza2nwn4e18J+HsQ==?=@jaworski1978@adres.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Sep 22 05:29:12 2025
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    W dniu 22.09.2025 o-a05:14, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# pisze:
    W dniu 22.09.2025 o 00:50, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro pisze:
    On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:31:27 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    Why they prohibit to use SQLite?!?

    LibreOffice Base works fine with SQLite, as it does with MySQL (to
    mention
    those IrCOve tried).

    It also has its own built-in DBMS back-end, if you donrCOt want to use an external one.

    I must reinstall my LO due to 'government/ethic crackers' which block LO Base in my Kubuntu.But after that I do 2 screenshots:

    <https://energokod.pl/inne/new-db-in-LO.png> <https://energokod.pl/inne/open-db-in-LO.png>

    Few minutes after that I got that error when I try start LO:

    qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display :0
    qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even
    though it was found.
    This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

    Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl, wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb.

    But it still works without firejail.

    For sake of completeness I do 3. screenshot, when I try open existing DB
    file:

    <https://energokod.pl/inne/open-db-file-in-LO.png>

    and it do not allow open Sqlite file, also.
    --
    Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PLEfc|Efc#, EUEfc-Efc|;
    tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55; <jaworski1978@adres.pl>, gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Sep 22 04:57:27 2025
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    On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 05:14:20 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    None of these lists contain SQLite.

    You must set up in entry your ~/.odbc.ini pointing at the desired
    database. E.g.

    [sqlite-test]
    Description=Test database for LibreOffice Base
    Driver=SQLite3
    Database=/home/ldo/hack/lo_try/sqlite-test.db

    (Note you seem to need the full path to the database file.)

    Now when you open a new LO Base document, you have the option to add an external data source. Choose ODBC and then rCLBrowse...rCY, and entries you have set up like above should show up for selection.
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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 23 04:20:32 2025
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    On Sat, 20 Sep 2025 08:54:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    The original post was about *Austria*.

    You should take up boxing with kangaroos :-)

    Ahh, I stand corrected.EfyaN+A Regardless, it's probably not wise to take any move by Austria as any indication of what may or may not be the wave of
    the future.

    As Austrians like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Paul Hogan may say when you
    visit their country, which is admittedly laid back and cool, just put
    another shrimp on the barbie, mate.

    Their Air Force using LO or Microsoft Office is not a story, really, no
    one cares. As Adolf Hitler, a native son of Australia, used to say when
    he was caught in the din of battle, "Get To The Choppa."

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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 23 10:00:23 2025
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    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 04:20:32 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid>
    wrote in <10at76g$prnl$1@solani.org>:

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2025 08:54:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    The original post was about *Austria*.

    You should take up boxing with kangaroos :-)

    Ahh, I stand corrected.EfyaN+A Regardless, it's probably not wise to take any
    move by Austria as any indication of what may or may not be the wave of
    the future.

    As Austrians like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Paul Hogan may say when you visit their country, which is admittedly laid back and cool, just put another shrimp on the barbie, mate.

    Their Air Force using LO or Microsoft Office is not a story, really, no
    one cares. As Adolf Hitler, a native son of Australia, used to say when
    he was caught in the din of battle, "Get To The Choppa."

    Speaking of Australians, did you realize that there were two
    governers-to-be in the movie _Predator_?

    ObLinux: I used ImageMagick today to convert a pdf to an image, sign it,
    then convert it back. Then I used gnupg to sign the document and sent
    it off to be processed. Ain't technology neeto?
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    NVIDIA: 580.82.09 Mem: 258G
    "An error? Impossible! My modem is error correcting."
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@OFeem1987@teleworm.us to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 23 06:43:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    vallor wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 04:20:32 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid>
    wrote in <10at76g$prnl$1@solani.org>:

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2025 08:54:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    The original post was about *Austria*.

    You should take up boxing with kangaroos :-)

    Ahh, I stand corrected.EfyaN+A Regardless, it's probably not wise to take any
    move by Austria as any indication of what may or may not be the wave of
    the future.

    As Austrians like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Paul Hogan may say when you
    visit their country, which is admittedly laid back and cool, just put
    another shrimp on the barbie, mate.

    Their Air Force using LO or Microsoft Office is not a story, really, no
    one cares. As Adolf Hitler, a native son of Australia, used to say when
    he was caught in the din of battle, "Get To The Choppa."

    Speaking of Australians, did you realize that there were two
    governers-to-be in the movie _Predator_?

    "Nothin' but a buncha slack-jawed faggots around here."
    -- Jesse Ventura, future governor of Minnesota

    ObLinux: I used ImageMagick today to convert a pdf to an image, sign it,
    then convert it back. Then I used gnupg to sign the document and sent
    it off to be processed. Ain't technology neeto?

    <https://superuser.com/questions/653231/embed-a-gpg-signature-in-a-pdf-file>
    --
    "My father was about to die. He called me up into his lap. He was
    in the electric chair!"
    -- Rodney Dangerfield
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 23 09:49:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 9/21/25 18:08, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/21/2025 5:25 PM, Farley Flud wrote:

    Now get back to your M$ laptop.-a For you, it's a marriage
    made in heaven.


    You're still a cheap fuck, not supporting FOSS with your money,
    voluntary payments are a good thing dumbass.

    Farley's just looking for any excuse to garner attention, which includes debasing themselves.


    There's nothing really
    wrong with commercial software either, I just don't always prefer it, I
    like LO for what it is, not just because it's FOSS, but it's good that
    it is.Sure. There's some great FOSS products out there, which a well informed
    consumer will seek out and be fine using. It can get more difficult in
    some institutional settings, as there's other interests to be supported.
    For example the security risks trade-offs from cloud-based services.


    -hh
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 23 20:53:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:49:38 -0400, -hh wrote:


    Farley's just looking for any excuse to garner attention, which includes debasing themselves.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Now he thinks that he is some sort of psychological expert.

    Is it any wonder that he chooses to post his bullshit to
    COLA where he will encounter no professional cross examination?

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
    --
    Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux perfection.
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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 23 22:55:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 23 Sep 2025 10:00:23 GMT, vallor wrote:

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 04:20:32 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid>
    wrote in <10at76g$prnl$1@solani.org>:

    On Sat, 20 Sep 2025 08:54:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    The original post was about *Austria*.

    You should take up boxing with kangaroos :-)

    Ahh, I stand corrected.EfyaN+A Regardless, it's probably not wise to take
    any move by Austria as any indication of what may or may not be the
    wave of the future.

    As Austrians like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Paul Hogan may say when you
    visit their country, which is admittedly laid back and cool, just put
    another shrimp on the barbie, mate.

    Their Air Force using LO or Microsoft Office is not a story, really, no
    one cares. As Adolf Hitler, a native son of Australia, used to say
    when he was caught in the din of battle, "Get To The Choppa."

    Speaking of Australians, did you realize that there were two
    governers-to-be in the movie _Predator_?


    Yes, I knew that and always found it interesting.

    Not as interesting as the back story between Dutch and Dillon, though.

    Only 11 years before they found themselves doing special ops work in a
    jungle deep in South America fighting a supernatural creature, they were fighting each other in one of the most thrilling boxing matches ever held.

    Oddly, back then, their names were Rocky and Apollo. Rocky was a scrappy, down on his luck bone breaker working for a bookie and collecting debts
    from the lower classes in the seedy back-alleys of Philadelphia. His
    amateur boxing career was on the back-burner as he never had any real
    success to speak of with it.

    Apollo, on the other hand, was the reigning heavyweight champion of the
    world, replete with riches, women, luxury items, and adoration of the
    whole country.

    Both of them being in peak physical condition for a human being, I suppose after their boxing careers were over, they each decided to become
    governmental special operations operators, thus the name changes.

    Even more interesting, and true, is that Apollo/Dillon was a football
    player for the BC Lions during the same time, early-mid 70's, that a man
    named Johnny Musso also played for the BC Lions.

    My alma mater, the University of Alabama, was where Johnny Musso earned
    his nickname playing for Bear Bryant. He was known around the college
    football viewing nation as The Italian Stallion.

    This was all before my time but, it is said that Apollo told Rocky about
    his hard-nosed teammate in Canadian League Football whose nickname was the Italian Stallion and Rocky adapted this nickname for his boxing career. Adrian is said to have loved it also, so he started using it all the time.


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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 23 23:55:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:53:36 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:49:38 -0400, -hh wrote:


    Farley's just looking for any excuse to garner attention, which
    includes debasing themselves.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Now he thinks that he is some sort of psychological expert.

    Is it any wonder that he chooses to post his bullshit to COLA where he
    will encounter no professional cross examination?

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    You are off-topic, troll.

    This thread is about the movie Predator and the first four Rocky movies
    where Apollo Creed and Rocky were adversaries and then friends and their
    later journey into special operations for the U.S. military.

    It could possibly extend to Creed II, in 2018, where Apollo appeared in a photo flashback but, that is questionable.

    Start your own fucking thread if you want to talk about something else.

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